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LN has been overwhelmed I presume. Ordered before The weeklong shutdown on 4/11. Stock was confirmed then after payment was received I was told 2 items were out of stock. Long story short my package still hasn’t arrived in US or given to fedex under the original tracking number. Very disappointed and ventured out to other vendors.
 
I’m trying to find something with good reviews. Do you mind helping me? It should have a good Finnrisk rating and good reviews elsewhere. The only one that’s close is Champion, but they don’t reply to me. Another one I saw was Jeep, but I saw they had a recently controversial issue.

Do you mind offering your expertise please?
All vendors are having shipping issues right now and the ones that are shipping just started today, after their holiday. Almost all vendors have also had problems with purity and mass at some point. I am not really the one to ask about the vendors here, but this and other threads have recent purchases that people are happy with.
 
All vendors are having shipping issues right now and the ones that are shipping just started today, after their holiday. Almost all vendors have also had problems with purity and mass at some point. I am not really the one to ask about the vendors here, but this and other threads have recent purchases that people are happy with.
Mass and filing don’t seem to be major concerns. I think 98% or 99% purity is good. However, the main issue I had with Jeep was the endotoxin problem and how they didn’t take accountability. I’m checking fintech, but it’s hard to find a good supplier.
 
Mass and filing don’t seem to be major concerns. I think 98% or 99% purity is good. However, the main issue I had with Jeep was the endotoxin problem and how they didn’t take accountability. I’m checking fintech, but it’s hard to find a good supplier.
Read through the vendor reviews and the vendor posts here. Everyone really needs to make that decision on their own.
 
Read through the vendor reviews and the vendor posts here. Everyone really needs to make that decision on their own.
sure im just wondering your recommendations & why if you do not mind

(you have a high post activity) and you seem like a seasoned member
 
sure im just wondering your recommendations & why if you do not mind

(you have a high post activity) and you seem like a seasoned member

It's called research. My post count is not a reason for you to not perform your own research. It's just means I "talk" a lot. 🤣 We don't spoon feed around here.
 
It's called research. My post count is not a reason for you to not perform your own research. It's just means I "talk" a lot. 🤣 We don't spoon feed around here.
Hi there,

I didn’t mean to imply that I wouldn’t conduct my own research.

The current market is so saturated that it’s challenging to distinguish between genuine and fabricated information.

but ty
 
LN reputation is going downhill!!! A lot of big GB drop them cause of lack of service, missing kits from orders and not honoring their guarantees.
I never had problems with Ruby but Cassie she has tons of complaints!!!
Regarding Cassie, I've sent her the message couple days ago, and don't have any response yet. Always thought, they expensive, but reliable...looks like not anymore. Think I'll not bother them anymore....
 
If you pick a vendor purely based on popularity, or how many views their ads get, and cannot find anything bad about them, and a few people somewhere mention buying from them and getting what they paid for, it is a fairly low risk approach. Much worse on p e p c h a t where there are several new vendors every week with exactly no way to tell if they are legit.

Endotoxin is not what you want in your peptides but in small amounts is not going to do much harm, quite a bit of it leaks through your gut every day into the bloodstream, along with at least hundreds of other microbial metabolites or bits and pieces of them. If you were injecting IV, then endotoxin and sterility really matter, but hopefully no one is doing that with any product not sourced from a legally certified pharmaceutical manufacturer.
 
LN reputation is going downhill!!! A lot of big GB drop them cause of lack of service, missing kits from orders and not honoring their guarantees.
I never had problems with Ruby but Cassie she has tons of complaints!!!

Regarding Cassie, I've sent her the message couple days ago, and don't have any response yet. Always thought, they expensive, but reliable...looks like not anymore. Think I'll not bother them anymore....

My recent experience with LN was communicative and pleasant. I dealt strictly with Ruby, they were extremely responsive (daily), and held long term conversations on questions/answers with near immediate responses during CN business hours.

Had 7 kits on order during the April shut down, sent a pic to me of it going out and Ruby realized one of the kits were wrong .mg so pulled it back from the freighter and corrected it, while also allowing me to add in an additional product/kit last second.

Shipped out after the April break, received tracking which actually worked, delivered to me, 8 kits in good order a few days ago.

No complaints whatsoever here.IMG_8449.webp
 
It is indeed, but that's not the point actually. Wondering if it makes sense to pay more for express, and not how to manage a free shipping. But on the other hand has seen a good few pictures of deliveries on this forum, where 25 kits was just a tiny part of the kits in total 😁
For me, it does pay to go express shipping. Not true for everyone. You have to decide for yourself if you want to wait a week-10 days or you want to wait for weeks.

2026 has been a wild shipping year. Between the tariff war, changes in US customs procedure (or the appearance of), the usual holidays, the increased volume of direct purchasing from CN, and now the stupid attacks on Iran.... It's been very long lead times.
 
My recent experience with LN was communicative and pleasant. I dealt strictly with Ruby, they were extremely responsive (daily), and held long term conversations on questions/answers with near immediate responses during CN business hours.

Had 7 kits on order during the April shut down, sent a pic to me of it going out and Ruby realized one of the kits were wrong .mg so pulled it back from the freighter and corrected it, while also allowing me to add in an additional product/kit last second.

Shipped out after the April break, received tracking which actually worked, delivered to me, 8 kits in good order a few days ago.

No complaints whatsoever here.View attachment 22093
I was on chat with Cassie, for a last few days...but yeah, few days and it could be all sorted in a few minutes. She was answering every second day...my patience has a limits, so I got back to my previous vendor and sorted everything in a 10 minutes.. maybe will give Ruby a try next time, if you guys say she's more cooperative
 
I was on chat with Cassie, for a last few days...but yeah, few days and it could be all sorted in a few minutes. She was answering every second day...my patience has a limits, so I got back to my previous vendor and sorted everything in a 10 minutes.. maybe will give Ruby a try next time, if you guys say she's more cooperative
Totally get it.

Just my personal experience within the current climate. Take it for whatever you think it’s worth 🤙
 
I'm attracted to LNs express shipping. Besides last years endotoxin issue, are there purity concerns with their current products?
 
Besides last years endotoxin issue, are there purity concerns with their current products?
Not that I have seen.

The worst-case scenario with high endos is you are on a high dose of a peptide with a small-mg vial. So I just try to avoid that scenario anyway, with or without endo testing. So R30 may look better than R10, etc. Of course, the opposite is true for maintaining sterility, with higher-mg vials possibly hanging around too long. So you don't necessarily want R60 or R100 either.
 
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Hi there,

I didn’t mean to imply that I wouldn’t conduct my own research.

The current market is so saturated that it’s challenging to distinguish between genuine and fabricated information.

but ty
I don't have the same message count, but having recently been in the same boat where you're trying to make sense of the vendor reviews recently enough, I appreciate where you're at. There are way more seasoned people here than me though, just to reiterate.

So far, I've had good experiences with APC (she prefers whatsapp communication). Be aware that the APC Telegram is a scammer even though it says in posts on this forum they have a Telegram-- they don't have TG anymore, so don't get scammed-- just do whatsapp or get on their Discord. I'd start with APC. I've also had good experiences with Barn, particularly having ordered items they have in their US warehouse. They did screw up one of my orders but were quick to make it right.

I have not used JEEP mostly because they've been clipped with their communication and I think some of that was the bad Reta thing that partly came from/through them (and they were overwhelmed), but a lot of people swear by JEEP. Without giving her any more proverbial 'airtime' by name, I'll just say that there is another vendor I ordered from a few times and everyone warned it would get weird and/or that I would get scammed and then those things eventually happened. Do do your homework, and then just stick to the positively reviewed vendors.
 
I don't have the same message count, but having recently been in the same boat where you're trying to make sense of the vendor reviews recently enough, I appreciate where you're at. There are way more seasoned people here than me though, just to reiterate.

So far, I've had good experiences with APC (she prefers whatsapp communication). Be aware that the APC Telegram is a scammer even though it says in posts on this forum they have a Telegram-- they don't have TG anymore, so don't get scammed-- just do whatsapp or get on their Discord. I'd start with APC. I've also had good experiences with Barn, particularly having ordered items they have in their US warehouse. They did screw up one of my orders but were quick to make it right.

I have not used JEEP mostly because they've been clipped with their communication and I think some of that was the bad Reta thing that partly came from/through them (and they were overwhelmed), but a lot of people swear by JEEP. Without giving her any more proverbial 'airtime' by name, I'll just say that there is another vendor I ordered from a few times and everyone warned it would get weird and/or that I would get scammed and then those things eventually happened. Do do your homework, and then just stick to the positively reviewed vendors.
Thank you. I have been seeing this WLH peptides around and they claim to have the one product I'm looking for, as per their product list. But they seem a little off to me. Has anybody used them before?
 
FYI from Tracy/QSC:

"Hey everyone, let’s have a quick, honest chat. You need to know what you’re getting into from now on.

If you’ve been paying attention since 2024, you’ve probably noticed the road is getting rougher. Not just a little bumpy, but full-on off-road, rocky, mud-up-to-your-ankles kind of rough. More players are in the game, sure, but that doesn’t mean things are easier. In fact, it’s getting weirder and harder to get your stuff. A couple of years ago, you might have complained that your GCMS showed 96% purity on EQ raw. Remember that? Today, you’re just hoping someone can land a solid 90% on basic testosterone. The days of cheap oils are a distant memory. The golden era of 99% pass rates to most countries via the simplest postal lines from China? Also gone.

Now sources are getting busted for selling steroids. Logistics companies are getting busted for shipping freeze-dried powders. Most shipping lines won’t touch peptides. Some lines shut down temporarily, then pop back up like stressed-out whack-a-moles. And you’ve probably heard that many sources can no longer ship HGH vials from China at all because inspections on that side have gone full Sherlock Holmes.

So let’s keep it real. Forget the white-glove, luxury customer service you might have enjoyed in the past. If you decide to order from China, and the international shipping window actually opens, mentally prepare yourself for chaos. Not maybe. Prepare. If it’s not a seizure, it’s delays. Even getting a package out the door is complicated now. A source might use one shipping line, get the whole shipment cancelled, then scramble to find another logistics company willing to touch the goods. That new company might not even have a line that accepts them, so the package comes right back. And what do you do in the meantime? You wait. Asking for updates won’t speed up time, teleport your package, or give me superpowers. I wish it did.

Sometimes we give you a tracking number, and a few days later, that line decides the risk isn’t worth it anymore. They stop shipping peptides and send everything back to us. The few lines that still accept peptides to, say, the USA are expensive and come with higher seizure rates. Fun, right?

If you think you can get better service somewhere else, honestly, go ahead and try. No hard feelings. But know this: the mess isn’t on the sources anymore. The whole situation is a cluster. Your only real option is to wait for the updated tracking we will send. It doesn’t matter if your order is from late March or April. If it takes two months to ship, it takes two months. That’s the reality. And no, there are no refund/credit options. Don’t like it? Stick to domestic options with their limited selection, or buy elsewhere.

So when I give you zero updates or don’t reply right away about your international order, please don’t take it as disrespect. It’s not personal. But you ask a lot, and I genuinely don’t have the time to answer every single person about an update that doesn’t exist yet. That would just be me typing into the void while the real work piles up. And let’s be honest, those conversations often come with a side of anger and Karen energy. I’d rather open your message, stay quiet, and come back to you only when I have a working tracking number in hand and your order is finally moving safely.

So yeah, don't bust my balls. You already made me regret opening the international window in the first place. Let me spell out your options so we're clear.

Option one: you have no tracking number. Then you wait for it. Option two: you have a tracking number that isn't working from China. Then you wait for a new one.

But here's what I can promise you. At the end of this mess, one thing is sure: we will deliver. And you will learn your lesson. Not a cruel lesson, just a realistic one. International shipping isn't Amazon Prime with a drone and a smile. It's a slow, frustrating, sometimes ridiculous process, and you either make peace with it or you lose your mind."
 
FYI from Tracy/QSC:

"Hey everyone, let’s have a quick, honest chat. You need to know what you’re getting into from now on.

If you’ve been paying attention since 2024, you’ve probably noticed the road is getting rougher. Not just a little bumpy, but full-on off-road, rocky, mud-up-to-your-ankles kind of rough. More players are in the game, sure, but that doesn’t mean things are easier. In fact, it’s getting weirder and harder to get your stuff. A couple of years ago, you might have complained that your GCMS showed 96% purity on EQ raw. Remember that? Today, you’re just hoping someone can land a solid 90% on basic testosterone. The days of cheap oils are a distant memory. The golden era of 99% pass rates to most countries via the simplest postal lines from China? Also gone.

Now sources are getting busted for selling steroids. Logistics companies are getting busted for shipping freeze-dried powders. Most shipping lines won’t touch peptides. Some lines shut down temporarily, then pop back up like stressed-out whack-a-moles. And you’ve probably heard that many sources can no longer ship HGH vials from China at all because inspections on that side have gone full Sherlock Holmes.

So let’s keep it real. Forget the white-glove, luxury customer service you might have enjoyed in the past. If you decide to order from China, and the international shipping window actually opens, mentally prepare yourself for chaos. Not maybe. Prepare. If it’s not a seizure, it’s delays. Even getting a package out the door is complicated now. A source might use one shipping line, get the whole shipment cancelled, then scramble to find another logistics company willing to touch the goods. That new company might not even have a line that accepts them, so the package comes right back. And what do you do in the meantime? You wait. Asking for updates won’t speed up time, teleport your package, or give me superpowers. I wish it did.

Sometimes we give you a tracking number, and a few days later, that line decides the risk isn’t worth it anymore. They stop shipping peptides and send everything back to us. The few lines that still accept peptides to, say, the USA are expensive and come with higher seizure rates. Fun, right?

If you think you can get better service somewhere else, honestly, go ahead and try. No hard feelings. But know this: the mess isn’t on the sources anymore. The whole situation is a cluster. Your only real option is to wait for the updated tracking we will send. It doesn’t matter if your order is from late March or April. If it takes two months to ship, it takes two months. That’s the reality. And no, there are no refund/credit options. Don’t like it? Stick to domestic options with their limited selection, or buy elsewhere.

So when I give you zero updates or don’t reply right away about your international order, please don’t take it as disrespect. It’s not personal. But you ask a lot, and I genuinely don’t have the time to answer every single person about an update that doesn’t exist yet. That would just be me typing into the void while the real work piles up. And let’s be honest, those conversations often come with a side of anger and Karen energy. I’d rather open your message, stay quiet, and come back to you only when I have a working tracking number in hand and your order is finally moving safely.

So yeah, don't bust my balls. You already made me regret opening the international window in the first place. Let me spell out your options so we're clear.

Option one: you have no tracking number. Then you wait for it. Option two: you have a tracking number that isn't working from China. Then you wait for a new one.

But here's what I can promise you. At the end of this mess, one thing is sure: we will deliver. And you will learn your lesson. Not a cruel lesson, just a realistic one. International shipping isn't Amazon Prime with a drone and a smile. It's a slow, frustrating, sometimes ridiculous process, and you either make peace with it or you lose your mind."
I love that he is trying to convince everyone not to worry, that he can be trusted to deliver in the end. The following gem he posted a while back would cast doubt on that…

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IMO, LN stays pretty competitive in pricing, even with $60 shipping, so long as you’re ordering a good handful of kits to amortize the cost. Yes, 25kits for free shipping is kinda dumb, but I did a lot of mathing before placing my recent order with them and their shipping cost was more than absorbed VS any reputable competitor pricing getting free shipping.
I just did a similar calculation for a different CN seller and the cost was more than worth it on the shipping. The price issue becomes the cost of testing. I'm not buying lots of a single product. I'm buying several different ones.


ETA: As for Tracy and QSC.... He isn't wrong about the grey market. Somehow people are kidding themselves that shit won't happen. Finishers won't get busted. Sellers won't overextend and vanish. GBOs will always be honest.

Don't get in too deep with any single vendor. Don't rely on one source. Keep order sizes to dollar values you're willing to kiss goodbye with no product to show for it.
 
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I remember clearly Tracy making big promises multiple times that he would make right the orders he skipped out on last year, and he now refuses to even acknowledge them. So when I read his posts warning his customers, I just shake my head.
 
I remember clearly Tracy making big promises multiple times that he would make right the orders he skipped out on last year, and he now refuses to even acknowledge them. So when I read his posts warning his customers, I just shake my head.
I think Tracy sold his TG and other credentials.

Definitely not the same Tracy.
 

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