I wouldn't discount them. They have been testing for BP for years. They also have the most sophisticated testing equipment available. If you have a suspect test, there is probably an explanation for it.
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WeezinDaJuice
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Not sure where you are located, but for me, on the West Coast, LNP had a very streamlined customs clearance via NorCal. I don't believe a signature was required, and there were no customs fees owed.
ultima thule
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I can see that many users are happy with LN. Got their price list and there's a price for express shipping, which is $30 higher than regular. Not a biggie tbh, but does it make any sense to pay more for express shipping? Does it really speed up delivery?
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
My understanding is the price for Express went up with the new price list this month, that Express was included before for no additional charge.
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ultima thule
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I got the list from Cassie just a few days ago. Presume it's the most recent tho. That's exactly what it says:
1: By special line shipping cost under 25kits is $60, by express is $90;Reach 25kits shipping free.
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Right, it was $60 for Express before, apparently, as opposed to $90 now.
From the old price list in January:
So if everyone was getting Express before for free, hard to know how much longer regular shipping would be.
From the old price list in January:
So if everyone was getting Express before for free, hard to know how much longer regular shipping would be.
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BNLFL
GLP-1 Specialist
25 kits is huge and expensive.
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Some people may be playing catchup with the reta hoarders, haha.
ultima thule
GLP-1 Enthusiast
It is indeed, but that's not the point actually. Wondering if it makes sense to pay more for express, and not how to manage a free shipping. But on the other hand has seen a good few pictures of deliveries on this forum, where 25 kits was just a tiny part of the kits in total 😁
BNLFL
GLP-1 Specialist
I see what you did there sir. 🤣
I personally haven't, and normally take the cheapest option..
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
I have never ordered myself for shipping from China, only their US warehouses. But for whatever reason, expedited shipping seems like better vibes for going through customs.
I have had stuff in customs for 5 days, and I was sick to my stomach haha, compulsively checking tracking. But that was an Indian order with far less generous reship.
The only time a package was seized was with my first traditional GB. So it took an extra month or so. But I only ordered a half kit anyway.
I have had stuff in customs for 5 days, and I was sick to my stomach haha, compulsively checking tracking. But that was an Indian order with far less generous reship.
The only time a package was seized was with my first traditional GB. So it took an extra month or so. But I only ordered a half kit anyway.
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Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
BT Labs says they are in the process of moving to a new lab/location, so they are apparently going to retest the complaints after that.
For one person, who recently talked to the CEO of BT Labs, one was the mass being very low for all the peptides tested vs. testing with Jano.
With another person, BT Labs had issues confirming their reta was reta, even though fine with Jano and TrustPointe. And the mass was also very dfiferent with BT Labs, apparently.
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Are we sure it really was Reta? They've been swapped before. I'm not saying they can't make mistakes, though. I'll see if I can find out what they said about this.
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
The reta was tentatively identified as tirz and then as unknown.
I have already been wary of them since there have been issues with every domestic lab compared to Jano. Like I generally avoid GBs that don't use Jano for M&P, besides the vendor guarantee issue.
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My concern there is that the more I read, the more I realize that purity and mass are not enough. Things like deamidation, acetylation, and other residual issues aren't captured in a standard Jano analysis, so purity could still show a highly pure peptide when using HPLC-UV. My concern stems from the explosion in popularity we've seen, and that suppliers may cut corners to keep up with demand. We've seen instances of that already.
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Unfortunately, that makes the case for Eli Lilly instead of just doing more and more testing like for TFA salts. Because you can't test for everything.
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TFA salts is a good one, but it's an additional cost. If we had a test that showed TFA salts were present first, then you could say ok, what's the quantity of TFA salts, and know the additional cost was worthwhile. That would be worth it to me.There also needs to be better standardized testing where the labs all agree on it. Instead we have a kind of Lab Wars where each one says they're the best and don't agree on anything, it seems.
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
And these are big discrepancies. Like 5 mg vs. 10 mg for mass.
Or the difference between 99.5% and 95.5%.
HereKittyKitty
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Express shipping is absolutely worth it. I was paying $70/shipment via FedHex and parcels would arrive in just a few days. One week, max.
I'll wait for shipping via GB. If I'm buying direct I don't want to wait weeks for receipt.
ETA: Thank you for the TFA salts breadcrumbs. That's a little unsettling, said the Queen of Understatement.
I'll wait for shipping via GB. If I'm buying direct I don't want to wait weeks for receipt.
ETA: Thank you for the TFA salts breadcrumbs. That's a little unsettling, said the Queen of Understatement.
WeezinDaJuice
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Just confirmed that they raised the same level of service I paid $60 for by another $30. Not sure my recommendation will continue.
I think it is important to account for the shipping cost when calculating overall price. Depending on the size and/or makeup of the order this could definitely keep LN from being a bargain.
At the same time, price isn’t everything, and the emphasis on quality issues with other vendors right now would make me hesitant to jump ship.
I guess my question would be why did they raise the price? Did they get a good scare when they couldn’t ship for a week and had to work out other logistics routes that end up costing more? Or is it exactly the same service as before and they’re hoping the customers are the ones who got a good scare?
DragonOfTheSea
GLP-1 Enthusiast
IMO, LN stays pretty competitive in pricing, even with $60 shipping, so long as you’re ordering a good handful of kits to amortize the cost. Yes, 25kits for free shipping is kinda dumb, but I did a lot of mathing before placing my recent order with them and their shipping cost was more than absorbed VS any reputable competitor pricing getting free shipping.
ultima thule
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Yeah I think they just try to grab the opportunity now, when other popular vendors dropped the ball recently. They have a reputation, which is one of the most, if not even the most important factor in this business...from the buyer's perspective it doesn't look fair, but sure look it, gray market is huge and anyone can make a decision, relying on price, or on a peace of mind...
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Does the math still math for you if shipping is now $90 for the same service that was previously $60 until last week?
Does the math still math for you if shipping is now $90 for the same service that was previously $60 until last week?
DragonOfTheSea
GLP-1 Enthusiast
It gets harder.. I suppose it would depend on what kits you’re getting.
That said, no one is forcing one to choose the $90 shipping option..?
Agreed. I don’t much mind if the package takes two or three weeks to get to me. However, from what I’ve read about other vendors is express shipping = 99% chance you’ll get your stuff without issue. Regular shipping = more like 80% chance. (These numbers aren’t scientific, but you get the drift.)
If you don’t get your stuff then you have to wait extra time just to find out for sure it isn’t coming, then wait on the reship. Also, if you have Global Entry or anything like that it can be revoked. So, shipping peace of mind was $60 and now it’s $90. If it is me I’m factoring in the $90 every time.
I kinda wish they had done a big announcement beforehand that the price was going to go up. I would have pulled a bunch of crypto together for one last big order (though not as big as 25 kits) before the new price hit.
Shipping got more expensive for every vendor. They also don't care about people buying 1-2 kits. They'd much rather deal in 200+ kit buys. And I'm not getting free shipping on that either.
HereKittyKitty
GLP-1 Enthusiast
There are a lot of factors to consider:
Does the vendor have everything I want or purchase? If not, dead in the water (for now).
Does the seller have current CoA with meaningful validation code? If yes, I'm creeping closer.
Are prices in the ballpark of other going rates from CN sellers? If no, I'm looking harder at the cost of shipping.
I don't aim for the free shipping offers. That's not shipping I want. I want priority shipping. My first vendor shipped product with all sorts of crazy paperwork: from herbs to essential oils. With MSDS sheets and everything.
Does the vendor have everything I want or purchase? If not, dead in the water (for now).
Does the seller have current CoA with meaningful validation code? If yes, I'm creeping closer.
Are prices in the ballpark of other going rates from CN sellers? If no, I'm looking harder at the cost of shipping.
I don't aim for the free shipping offers. That's not shipping I want. I want priority shipping. My first vendor shipped product with all sorts of crazy paperwork: from herbs to essential oils. With MSDS sheets and everything.
ussop
GLP-1 Apprentice
I’m trying to find something with good reviews. Do you mind helping me? It should have a good Finnrisk rating and good reviews elsewhere. The only one that’s close is Champion, but they don’t reply to me. Another one I saw was Jeep, but I saw they had a recently controversial issue.
Do you mind offering your expertise please?
Do you mind offering your expertise please?
