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What vendor has “JP” on their kits? I keep seeing pics of people posting their kits on Reddit and they all have that “JP” on the kits but they cant say who they are getting them from on Reddit for obvious reasons. Curious cause they all swear by the vendor.
 
Varixdos said:
Who is J5 and how can I connect with them? I've looked through my TG groups and haven't come across them other than mentions. I'm always interested in US suppliers as well as anyone with a solid selection of bioregulators.
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I was wondering the same thing. They seem pretty private (which I completely understand)
 
ktg123 said:
Is utherpep website down for everyone else?
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It was working for me earlier.

I just put in an order with Grey Axis. Let's see how this goes so I can order some new ones I want to try. Or at least hold on to that I'm curious about until more research comes out.

Thanks for the recommendation, gang 🖤
 
Calm Logic said:
I see you on TG, so I will let you know there.

Basically, J5 used to do traditional GBs but currently only sells in-stock kits. Like most GB vendors, they are relatively private.
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Waclive said:
It was working for me earlier.

I just put in an order with Grey Axis. Let's see how this goes so I can order some new ones I want to try. Or at least hold on to that I'm curious about until more research comes out.

Thanks for the recommendation, gang 🖤
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I hope this goes well for you. I placed my first grey order through Grey Axis on 12/10 around 11am MST, I received tracking the same day and it shipped in the afternoon. I received my order on 12/15.

I had a great experience and couldn’t be happier with the process. Especially considering it was my first time ordering grey from any vendor.
 

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I was wondering the same thing. They seem pretty private (which I completely understand)
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I agree. Let me tell you Tepidpep22. I’ve scoured the forum and have found some quality breadcrumbs but nothing substantial. Last I read J5’s telegram went private. The search continues! Good luck my friend! ✊🏾✊🏾
 
Waclive said:
It was working for me earlier.

I just put in an order with Grey Axis. Let's see how this goes so I can order some new ones I want to try. Or at least hold on to that I'm curious about until more research comes out.

Thanks for the recommendation, gang 🖤
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I've made 5 orders so far. Never had a problem, well wrapped. Order arrived from Texas to Oregon 2 days after I paid for it. The Uther kit I got was almost half the price of Nexaph.
 
pavlovs said:
I've made 5 orders so far. Never had a problem, well wrapped. Order arrived from Texas to Oregon 2 days after I paid for it. The Uther kit I got was almost half the price of Nexaph.
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Grey Axis Research along with Amino Lair are the best I have dealt with for same-day shipping, along with BioBombshell.

From Grey Axis Research, I got survo months ago when they were clearing out their old PGB inventory. Since it was on clearance, it was cheaper per mg than anywhere else for survo. Shipped the same day, on a Saturday.
 
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Thanks for sharing your experiences with Grey Axis Research.

I feel confident in my order. They replied to me in a timely fashion, answered all my questions, confirmed payment, and sent out an invoice with a tracking number within a few moments.

I already have my next order in my cart prepared and waiting!


I notice they have quite the selection compared to most the other vendors I looked at. I'm curious to try some new ones, anyone have recommendations? I'm thinking DSIP for sleep looks nice.
 
DSIP never worked for me. Sadly
But in saying that I am on low dose Reta and I feel that may have something to do with my sleep. My resting pulse is normally in the mid 50's but on Reta it has been in the mid high 60's.
 
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DustAndDignity said:
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I hope this goes well for you. I placed my first grey order through Grey Axis on 12/10 around 11am MST, I received tracking the same day and it shipped in the afternoon. I received my order on 12/15.

I had a great experience and couldn’t be happier with the process. Especially considering it was my first time ordering grey from any vendor.
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I had the exact same experience with Grey Axis. No complaints at all.
 
Waclive said:
It was working for me earlier.

I just put in an order with Grey Axis. Let's see how this goes so I can order some new ones I want to try. Or at least hold on to that I'm curious about until more research comes out.

Thanks for the recommendation, gang 🖤
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Oh hell no, Gray Axis is ridiculously expensive. I went and took a look, The stuff im interested in is basically double the price or more from China. And all these guys are probably doing is slapping a nice label ( if that ) on random Chinese gray they buy in bulk.

Maybe im just assuming, but thats my take. No thanks.
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
Oh hell no, Gray Axis is ridiculously expensive. I went and took a look, The stuff im interested in is basically double the price or more from China. And all these guys are probably doing is slapping a nice label ( if that ) on random Chinese gray they buy in bulk.

Maybe im just assuming, but thats my take. No thanks.
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Thanks for your take.

I don't mind paying a little more for gray market resellers that ships from America and I don't have to pay with crypto either. It's also a priority for me to grab a supply and have it on hand and then do further research for an overseas gray market vendor I think will be sufficient. Plus, the selection offered by most of the overseas vendors seems very limited. You do you, boo boo, I just don't want any of the hassle right now.

That being said, what vendor do you recommend?
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
Oh hell no, Gray Axis is ridiculously expensive. I went and took a look, The stuff im interested in is basically double the price or more from China. And all these guys are probably doing is slapping a nice label ( if that ) on random Chinese gray they buy in bulk.

Maybe im just assuming, but thats my take. No thanks.
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I think the pricing depends on the product. RT50 worked out to about $1/mg with a coupon code. It's definitely more than going direct via the sponsors from China, but it didn't look like 2x...maybe 1.25x?
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
Oh hell no, Gray Axis is ridiculously expensive. I went and took a look, The stuff im interested in is basically double the price or more from China. And all these guys are probably doing is slapping a nice label ( if that ) on random Chinese gray they buy in bulk.

Maybe im just assuming, but thats my take. No thanks.
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Manage your expitations. Gray Axis is not a place for kits. They are a place for items to tryout or if you only need a few vials and need it quick. Their price for singles isn't bad compared to most single sellers. They resell and don't hide it, SSA, Uther, PGB and the likes.
Saying that I've purchased singles 4 times and never had a problem.
There are discout codes on their channel too.
 
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FNG33 said:
Manage your expitations. Gray Axis is not a place for kits. They are a place for items to tryout or if you only need a few vials and need it quick. Their price for singles isn't bad compared to most single sellers. They resell and don't hide it, SSA, Uther, PGB and the likes.
Saying that I've purchased singles 4 times and never had a problem.
There are discout codes on their channel too.
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Got it, thanks!
 
In addition to the vendor section here, the Vendor Promo section of STG has some links to vendors.

For those who do crypto, UtherPep has rotating domestic promos with free shipping, like if you want Uther's T60 ($180 and below). But I don't remember if he has had reta there before.
 
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FNG33 said:
Manage your expitations. Gray Axis is not a place for kits. They are a place for items to tryout or if you only need a few vials and need it quick. Their price for singles isn't bad compared to most single sellers. They resell and don't hide it, SSA, Uther, PGB and the likes.
Saying that I've purchased singles 4 times and never had a problem.
There are discout codes on their channel too.
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Yea I hadn't thought of it that way, males total sense. So im now managing my expectations, and maybe with that thought process in mind I might try a few new things
 
Calm Logic said:
In addition to the vendor section here, the Vendor Promo section of STG has some links to vendors.

For those who do crypto, UtherPep has rotating domestic promos with free shipping, like if you want Uther's T60 ($180 and below). But I don't remember if he has had reta there before.
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To your message before you edited it, Nexaph RT24 kits are over $500 😂😂😂

Edit: unless that's his sister website and not the actual gray version.
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
Oh hell no, Gray Axis is ridiculously expensive. I went and took a look, The stuff im interested in is basically double the price or more from China. And all these guys are probably doing is slapping a nice label ( if that ) on random Chinese gray they buy in bulk.

Maybe im just assuming, but thats my take. No thanks.
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Buying from China is not an option for all of us. Some of my colleagues have lost global entry and TSA precheck after getting their first letter in farming them that they're purchases have been destroyed. It's pretty humiliating for them and when traveling as a group it pisses everybody off to have to wait on them. I didn't know this was actually a thing until recently, and now I wonder what other consequences can come from it. Crypto is also not something I am going to get involved in. I don't mind paying twice as much. Also, I'm only seeing a couple of different labels being used at grey axis. I think that if someone were selling peptides and slapping uther's name on it, Uther would respond.
By the way, I don't know if it makes a difference, but of the four people who have lost global entry two of them say it was for prescription medications, not controlled substances. The other two were Botox and some other non FDA cleared cosmetics.
 
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pavlovs said:
Buying from China is not an option for all of us. Some of my colleagues have lost global entry and TSA precheck after getting their first letter in farming them that they're purchases have been destroyed. It's pretty humiliating for them and when traveling as a group it pisses everybody off to have to wait on them. I didn't know this was actually a thing until recently, and now I wonder what other consequences can come from it. Crypto is also not something I am going to get involved in. I don't mind paying twice as much. Also, I'm only seeing a couple of different labels being used at grey axis. I think that if someone were selling peptides and slapping uther's name on it, Uther would respond.
By the way, I don't know if it makes a difference, but of the four people who have lost global entry two of them say it was for prescription medications, not controlled substances. The other two were Botox and some other non FDA cleared cosmetics.
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Is it because you and your colleagues are in a specific industry that would maybe warrant the additional reviews with shipments?
 
Slogger said:
Is it because you and your colleagues are in a specific industry that would maybe warrant the additional reviews with shipments?
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No, I'm in healthcare. I'm not special. It looks like it can happen to anyone, regardless of industry. If global entry, tsa precheck, ever working for the government, preventing getting your name on a list somewhere in Washington is important to you, stick to American suppliers. I get that GLP1s are uber cheap from China, but my career and reputation mean a lot to me.

: from AI -

In 2025, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has increased its focus on enforcing medication and customs laws. Violations regarding unapproved medications can lead to the immediate and permanent loss of Trusted Traveler status.

Prohibited and Unapproved Medications
  • FDA Approval Status: Medications unapproved by the FDA—even if legal and prescribed by a physician in another country—are generally prohibited from entering the U.S.. This includes foreign versions of U.S. drugs not evaluated by the FDA.
  • Banned Substances: Drugs with a high potential for abuse, such as Rohypnol, GHB, and Fen-Phen, are strictly forbidden.
  • 2025 Enforcement Focus:
    • GLP-1 Drugs: As of September 2025, the FDA has implemented a "Green List" to block illegal, unapproved, or counterfeit GLP-1 ingredients (like those used in weight loss medications) from entering the country.
    • Unapproved Pharma: CBP frequently seizes large quantities of unapproved pharmaceuticals at ports of entry, including eye drops manufactured in unsanitary conditions and unapproved stem cell products.

Impact on Global Entry and TSA PreCheck
  • Immediate Revocation: Any failure to declare international purchases, including medications, or possession of an undeclared quantity of medications at the border, are top reasons for the revocation of Global Entry.
  • Loss of Privilege: Once revoked, Trusted Traveler status is often lost permanently for serious violations, such as attempting to smuggle narcotics or controlled substances.
  • Revocation Trends 2025: Membership revocations have surged by over 40% since 2024, often due to customs rule violations or "derogatory information" from other countries.
  • TSA PreCheck Benefits: Because Global Entry includes TSA PreCheck, losing one typically results in the loss of the other. Members can also lose PreCheck for bringing prohibited items (like firearms) through domestic checkpoints.

TSA 2025 Medication Rules
  • 3-1-1 Rule Exemption: In 2025, medically necessary liquids, gels, and aerosols are exempt from the standard 3.4oz limit. You must declare these items to the officer at the start of the screening process.
  • Screening Options: You may request a visual inspection for medications instead of X-ray screening, but this request must be made before items enter the X-ray tunnel.
  • Labels: While the TSA does not strictly require original prescription bottles, carrying them is highly recommended to facilitate the security process and comply with various state laws.
For appeals regarding revoked status, travelers may contact the CBP Trusted Traveler Ombudsman.
 
pavlovs said:
No, I'm in healthcare. I'm not special. It looks like it can happen to anyone, regardless of industry. If global entry, tsa precheck, ever working for the government, preventing getting your name on a list somewhere in Washington is important to you, stick to American suppliers. I get that GLP1s are uber cheap from China, but my career and reputation mean a lot to me.

: from AI -

In 2025, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) has increased its focus on enforcing medication and customs laws. Violations regarding unapproved medications can lead to the immediate and permanent loss of Trusted Traveler status.

Prohibited and Unapproved Medications
  • FDA Approval Status: Medications unapproved by the FDA—even if legal and prescribed by a physician in another country—are generally prohibited from entering the U.S.. This includes foreign versions of U.S. drugs not evaluated by the FDA.
  • Banned Substances: Drugs with a high potential for abuse, such as Rohypnol, GHB, and Fen-Phen, are strictly forbidden.
  • 2025 Enforcement Focus:
    • GLP-1 Drugs: As of September 2025, the FDA has implemented a "Green List" to block illegal, unapproved, or counterfeit GLP-1 ingredients (like those used in weight loss medications) from entering the country.
    • Unapproved Pharma: CBP frequently seizes large quantities of unapproved pharmaceuticals at ports of entry, including eye drops manufactured in unsanitary conditions and unapproved stem cell products.

Impact on Global Entry and TSA PreCheck
  • Immediate Revocation: Any failure to declare international purchases, including medications, or possession of an undeclared quantity of medications at the border, are top reasons for the revocation of Global Entry.
  • Loss of Privilege: Once revoked, Trusted Traveler status is often lost permanently for serious violations, such as attempting to smuggle narcotics or controlled substances.
  • Revocation Trends 2025: Membership revocations have surged by over 40% since 2024, often due to customs rule violations or "derogatory information" from other countries.
  • TSA PreCheck Benefits: Because Global Entry includes TSA PreCheck, losing one typically results in the loss of the other. Members can also lose PreCheck for bringing prohibited items (like firearms) through domestic checkpoints.

TSA 2025 Medication Rules
  • 3-1-1 Rule Exemption: In 2025, medically necessary liquids, gels, and aerosols are exempt from the standard 3.4oz limit. You must declare these items to the officer at the start of the screening process.
  • Screening Options: You may request a visual inspection for medications instead of X-ray screening, but this request must be made before items enter the X-ray tunnel.
  • Labels: While the TSA does not strictly require original prescription bottles, carrying them is highly recommended to facilitate the security process and comply with various state laws.
For appeals regarding revoked status, travelers may contact the CBP Trusted Traveler Ombudsman.
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Wow! Thank you so much for this information. I will no longer consider CN product no matter the price advantage. I have hesitated for months and so thankful I have not moved forward. I would be devastated to lose TSA pre-check or Global Entry.
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
Oh hell no, Gray Axis is ridiculously expensive. I went and took a look, The stuff im interested in is basically double the price or more from China. And all these guys are probably doing is slapping a nice label ( if that ) on random Chinese gray they buy in bulk.

Maybe im just assuming, but thats my take. No thanks.
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They're 100% buying in bulk from PGB, Uther and a smattering of other vendors, putting a fancy label on it, and charging up the ass for it.

I stopped ordering from them for this very reason. They keep upping the prices and think people won't notice. But I do! Charging $17 for Hospira is ridiculous.
 
IshimaruKenta said:
They're 100% buying in bulk from PGB, Uther and a smattering of other vendors, putting a fancy label on it, and charging up the ass for it.

I stopped ordering from them for this very reason. They keep upping the prices and think people won't notice. But I do! Charging $17 for Hospira is ridiculous.
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I'm totally fine with them buying from PGB and Uther. They aren't putting a fancy label on it, they are putting a label on that actually says where it was sourced. Mine were sourced from Uther. I'm good with Uther and would buy straight from Uther if credit cards were accepted.
 
IshimaruKenta said:
They're 100% buying in bulk from PGB, Uther and a smattering of other vendors, putting a fancy label on it, and charging up the ass for it.

I stopped ordering from them for this very reason. They keep upping the prices and think people won't notice. But I do! Charging $17 for Hospira is ridiculous.
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Up the ass is hardly how I would describe it. Look at this comparison in the photo I provided.


Where do you get your Hospira from?
 

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