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I was using Walgreens needles before but then I found a 100 pack for $12 of Reli On needles. I know I can buy them online I just haven’t yet.

Anyways I’ve never had a reaction until recently. I did two ghk cu injections and had really bad reactions from them. Now no matter what I inject I get a welt and bruising. I started the new needles and the ghk cu the same day.

I notice also these needles do hurt more. I tend to bleed a little more also. So is it possible the ghk cu has created some kind of long term histamine response or is it more likely the needles? Has anyone else used these needles?

Also where is a good place to buy bulk easy touch needles? I have heard they are a game changer!
 
cloratheshadow said:
I was using Walgreens needles before but then I found a 100 pack for $12 of Reli On needles. I know I can buy them online I just haven’t yet.

Anyways I’ve never had a reaction until recently. I did two ghk cu injections and had really bad reactions from them. Now no matter what I inject I get a welt and bruising. I started the new needles and the ghk cu the same day.

I notice also these needles do hurt more. I tend to bleed a little more also. So is it possible the ghk cu has created some kind of long term histamine response or is it more likely the needles? Has anyone else used these needles?

Also where is a good place to buy bulk easy touch needles? I have heard they are a game changer!
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Just a guess the new ones might be dull, I always thought a needle was a needle but over the years I have found some are sharper than others.
 
ReliOn is Walmart's private label for diabetes supplies. I wouldn't hesitate to use them.

Are you rotating injection sites? I have that as a column on the simple tracking spreadsheet I created. My rotation is every combination of left side or right, abdomen or inner thigh, high or low on the area ... excessive but why not? So it goes
LA Hi
LT Hi
RT Lo
RA Hi
LA Hi
LT Hi
RT Lo
 
indolent said:
ReliOn is Walmart's private label for diabetes supplies. I wouldn't hesitate to use them.

Are you rotating injection sites? I have that as a column on the simple tracking spreadsheet I created. My rotation is every combination of left side or right, abdomen or inner thigh, high or low on the area ... excessive but why not? So it goes
LA Hi
LT Hi
RT Lo
RA Hi
LA Hi
LT Hi
RT Lo
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The Reli On are the ones I switched to and I’m getting reactions and they hurt more.

I do rotate between different parts of my body and anywhere I inject it welts 🙁
 
It's definitely the GHK-Cu, especially if you are injecting it on its own, rather than blended with the other components of GLOW/KLOW.

It is possible the needle is exacerbating it slightly, but a dull or larger gauge needle wouldn't cause a welt like GHK-Cu does.

You can try blending it with KPV, BPC 157, or TB 500, or diluting it with more bac water. You can also try injecting into the fattiest area you can find. A lot of people do their love handles or glutes.
 
Given California's reasonable laws regarding syringes (no prescription, no limit, just the pharmacist's discretion) I'd just right away buy a box of fancier ones and see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't, you'll have a nice syringe hoard to use when you find the culprit.

As a clarification for others to help you, were you altogether new to GHK-Cu on the very day you started with the ReliOn syringes? New bac also, for that and the other peps you're pinning?
 
cheaperseeker said:
It's definitely the GHK-Cu, especially if you are injecting it on its own, rather than blended with the other components of GLOW/KLOW.

It is possible the needle is exacerbating it slightly, but a dull or larger gauge needle wouldn't cause a welt like GHK-Cu does.

You can try blending it with KPV, BPC 157, or TB 500, or diluting it with more bac water. You can also try injecting into the fattiest area you can find. A lot of people do their love handles or glutes.
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I diluted it a TON and it still welted.

Since that injection and since switching needles everything welts.

My Tirz, KPV, BPC, CJC/IPA, and occasionally Cagri all welt and bruise now…

That’s why I’m worried about the needles. Im rotating well I think but anywhere I inject it itches and burns..

I was taking peps for 3 months with no issues..🙁
 
indolent said:
Given California's reasonable laws regarding syringes (no prescription, no limit, just the pharmacist's discretion) I'd just right away buy a box of fancier ones and see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't, you'll have a nice syringe hoard to use when you find the culprit.

As a clarification for others to help you, were you altogether new to GHK-Cu on the very day you started with the ReliOn syringes? New bac also, for that and the other peps you're pinning?
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First time taking GHK-cu! And first day using ReliOn. Stopped the GHK after 2 doses and continued welting. And my bac is the same I’ve been using. Hospira. I’m very clean with storage and reconstituting.
 
cloratheshadow said:
I diluted it a TON and it still welted.

Since that injection and since switching needles everything welts.

My Tirz, KPV, BPC, CJC/IPA, and occasionally Cagri all welt and bruise now…

That’s why I’m worried about the needles. Im rotating well I think but anywhere I inject it itches and burns..

I was taking peps for 3 months with no issues..🙁
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if I was in your shoes, I'd definitely try different needles. Some of the peps you mentioned are known for any site reactions. I'm just theorizing but could be a reaction to those needles for a number of reasons (materials, finishing processes, etc).
 
Mr. Blonde said:
if I was in your shoes, I'd definitely try different needles. Some of the peps you mentioned are known for any site reactions. I'm just theorizing but could be a reaction to those needles for a number of reasons (materials, finishing processes, etc).
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That’s kind of what I’m thinking. Especially since they seem to hurt worse and bleed. I never had issues with the Walgreens one but they limit me to a 10 pack a day. I think I’m going to switch back and use the ReliOn only when I have nothing else and see if it stops. I currently have like 10 bruises and welts on my stomach and legs. My two shots earlier hurt SO bad on my leg.
 
Have you tried taking a antihistamine to see if it improves or lessens the reactions? Wouldn't rule out the needles or GHK as the causes but could maybe reduce the reactions a bit.

Just out of curiosity, are the needles the same length as your old ones? If you injected more shallow and are hitting the dermis vs sub-q that could cause a reaction as well.
 
Other things, if not already doing so:
  • always use a separate syringe for each draw. Every jab dulls the needle tip. This is a key argument in favor of pens over vials.
  • inject at a 45 degree angle or lower, not at a right angle to your skin
 
jsc1980 said:
Have you tried taking a antihistamine to see if it improves or lessens the reactions? Wouldn't rule out the needles or GHK as the causes but could maybe reduce the reactions a bit.

Just out of curiosity, are the needles the same length as your old ones? If you injected more shallow and are hitting the dermis vs sub-q that could cause a reaction as well.
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I use 6mm and do it at a slight angle, same as before. I also tried using Flonase I read that helps the reaction site. And I took Benadryl last night which didn’t seem to help at all tbh.
 
indolent said:
Other things, if not already doing so:
  • always use a separate syringe for each draw. Every jab dulls the needle tip. This is a key argument in favor of pens over vials.
  • inject at a 45 degree angle or lower, not at a right angle to your skin
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Thank you! I do 6mm at an angle and I never draw twice! I didn’t change anything about my injections except the needles tbh
 
Hello, I pin ghk-cu daily (1mg) with 31g, 8mm needles. I pin at my fat part of my glutes and no issue for me.

I don't force it much, I put the needle on the surface and wait for my skin to absorbe the needle in and i press in deep, pointing in 45 degree. No pain at all. I got bruises when i pinned on muscle part of my glute so I am very selective where i pin them now.

Also, after drawing up the liquid from the vial with an insulin syringe, i put the cap back and wait maybe 10 min to go to room tempurature for the liquid before pinning, it helps!!
 
indolent said:
ReliOn is Walmart's private label for diabetes supplies. I wouldn't hesitate to use them.

Are you rotating injection sites? I have that as a column on the simple tracking spreadsheet I created. My rotation is every combination of left side or right, abdomen or inner thigh, high or low on the area ... excessive but why not? So it goes
LA Hi
LT Hi
RT Lo
RA Hi
LA Hi
LT Hi
RT Lo
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I have almost exactly the same in my spread sheet...I think I use 'H' and 'L' for hi and lo...but otherwise, same-same... 👍
 
cloratheshadow said:
I diluted it a TON and it still welted.

Since that injection and since switching needles everything welts.

My Tirz, KPV, BPC, CJC/IPA, and occasionally Cagri all welt and bruise now…

That’s why I’m worried about the needles. Im rotating well I think but anywhere I inject it itches and burns..

I was taking peps for 3 months with no issues..🙁
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Weird! I've given a lot of subQ injections to a lot of different people over the years, and this is the first time I've heard of someone getting welts from the needle. First time for everything, eh?

Mr. Blonde is probably right that you are reacting to something in that company's manufacturing process. I agree about trying different needles.
 
What about trying thinner gauge? For the ones that burn some prefer a longer length like 8mm.

Pens also have even thinner ones like 34g for sensitive skin.
 
I use Reli on for most peptides except the spicy ones--GHK-Cu and Gluta I use a thicker gage and longer needle for IM. It takes the sting out.
 
I got my Easy Touch from Injection Shop. I have 100 of 1ml and a 100 .5m, all 31g 8ml. I also have BD, of both, same sizes from Underground Supply. Both are pretty equal in feel. Two things about these thin needle. Only push it in the rubber stopper once, and just draw slow, it takes a little longer. Being thinner they dull easy, so trash them if you have issues, but push any pep back in. Trust me.
 
cloratheshadow said:
update: I pinned wirh my normal Walgreens needles and had no reaction or pain. Same g and mm as the Reli On. No reaction at all for all 3 pins. So it seems the culprit was the needle for some reason!
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Curious what Walgreen charges? I asked CVS a couple of years ago and they wanted 40 for the same thing on AMz that was 15.
 
toologic said:
Curious what Walgreen charges? I asked CVS a couple of years ago and they wanted 40 for the same thing on AMz that was 15.
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About $3.50 for a 10 pack but they will only sell me one a day so I have to go back every 2-3 days. That’s the one downside.
 
cloratheshadow said:
About $3.50 for a 10 pack but they will only sell me one a day so I have to go back every 2-3 days. That’s the one downside.
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That's $35 for 100. Vitality Medical has Easy Touch 31g-5/16", my preference for about $15/100 count. All the sizes, .3 .5 and 1ml.
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I got some cheapo needle syringes on Amazon. They bend just trying to poke them in the vial. Waste of money. I'm glad I didn't spend too much. I guess it's best to stick with name brand!
 
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