Retatrutide's effect on alcohol cravings?

[hotdog!]

I’m exactly where you were. So the retratrutide is more effective than just tirz? Can you say more about the exact changes you made? Thank you!

Sorry, since I originally asked about Reta's effects on alcohol consumption, it gives the impression I was talking about Reta, but I am talking about the effects of Tirzepatide in these subsequent posts. But if you read through to the end, you'll see that effect is greatly dampened now, just a few months later. I can certainly drink through the Tirz effects that made me uninterested in alcohol. And I did that for most of December, part of January. For a few weeks I went right back to the nightly bottle of wine or 6-7 beers. I lost no weight during that time, unsurprisingly.

But it is still easier to make the decision to not drink when I am on tirz. Now that I cut out drinking again, the weight is slowly moving back down again.

I tried Reta for about 6-7 weeks but the skin sensitivity was a big issue, plus I had a history of a very painful neuropathy issue that resolved long ago and I am very afraid of getting again. I also disliked the increased feeling of hunger, specifically cravings for sweets which were previously never an issue for me. So I was never able to see first hand how much better Reta was at suppressing alcohol cravings.

 

[Grannylearner]

Sorry, since I originally asked about Reta's effects on alcohol consumption, it gives the impression I was talking about Reta, but I am talking about the effects of Tirzepatide in these subsequent posts. But if you read through to the end, you'll see that effect is greatly dampened now, just a few months later. I can certainly drink through the Tirz effects that made me uninterested in alcohol. And I did that for most of December, part of January. For a few weeks I went right back to the nightly bottle of wine or 6-7 beers. I lost no weight during that time, unsurprisingly.

But it is still easier to make the decision to not drink when I am on tirz. Now that I cut out drinking again, the weight is slowly moving back down again.

I tried Reta for about 6-7 weeks but the skin sensitivity was a big issue, plus I had a history of a very painful neuropathy issue that resolved long ago and I am very afraid of getting again. I also disliked the increased feeling of hunger, specifically cravings for sweets which were previously never an issue for me. So I was never able to see first hand how much better Reta was at suppressing alcohol cravings.

Thank you for responding! I have heard that the alcohol cravings aren’t as reduced for people who are not obese. I am just a little overweight, so I wondered if that might be why I haven’t experienced the lack of interest or distaste for alcohol. I noticed one comment suggested stacking a bit of semi with the tirz. Maybe I will try that. Of course, I agree that other recovery programs may be helpful, but I’m looking at both paths. ❤️

 

[chmuse]

Thank you for responding! I have heard that the alcohol cravings aren’t as reduced for people who are not obese. I am just a little overweight, so I wondered if that might be why I haven’t experienced the lack of interest or distaste for alcohol. I noticed one comment suggested stacking a bit of semi with the tirz. Maybe I will try that. Of course, I agree that other recovery programs may be helpful, but I’m looking at both paths. ❤️

I've only been on sema, but I can confirm it works well. Anecdotes I've seen seem to show sema is best for addictive behaviors.

 

[hotdog!]

Thank you for responding! I have heard that the alcohol cravings aren’t as reduced for people who are not obese. I am just a little overweight, so I wondered if that might be why I haven’t experienced the lack of interest or distaste for alcohol. I noticed one comment suggested stacking a bit of semi with the tirz. Maybe I will try that. Of course, I agree that other recovery programs may be helpful, but I’m looking at both paths. ❤️

Oh no, I am obese, started at class III and now at class I. So I can't say whether that's true for others, but it's not the case for me. For me it is more a Pavlovian conditioning, functional type of alcohol addiction. But still an addiction, I'm not deluding myself about that.

 

[Grannylearner]

Oh no, I am obese, started at class III and now at class I. So I can't say whether that's true for others, but it's not the case for me. For me it is more a Pavlovian conditioning, functional type of alcohol addiction. But still an addiction, I'm not deluding myself about that.

Moving from class 3 to 1 is fantastic -that is a lot to celebrate right there. I’m also very functional which makes it easier to ignore the negative consequences. When I have had periods of sobriety, my anxiety is lower. Wishing you the best.

 

[Grannylearner]

I've only been on sema, but I can confirm it works well. Anecdotes I've seen seem to show sema is best for addictive behaviors.

Thank you. Has the effect been consistent over time? Or did you notice less or more after several weeks on it?

 

[chmuse]

Thank you. Has the effect been consistent over time? Or did you notice less or more after several weeks on it?

Volume wise it was immediately down like 95%. I just didn't feel like drinking as much. By 2 months in I managed to be sober a solid two weeks, before I ended up drinking emotionally. I'd say I'm still down 90% from the amount I was drinking before sema- if I go out, I have a shot or two or just don't feel like drinking at all. I'm still capable of getting shitty drunk if something gets me all up in my feels, but I pay the price the next day and it puts me off trying again for a while.

Context: my first shot was Oct 1

 

[bbrewer]

I go for vodka and diet sports drinks. Seems to keep my electrolytes more balanced especially doing keto and glp1.

 

[hotdog!]

Yes, I, like most obese people, know all about the calories.

I have preferences for certain reasons that have to do with attempts at self-moderation. I tend to guzzle when I drink, so if I'm guzzling liquor I will end up way, way more drunk far quicker than I intend. In fact, if I drink liquor drinks I will end up passed-out drunk and probably close to alcohol poisoning with the world's most debilitating hangover the next day. The volume and feeling of fullness from beer and wine is a safety that slows me down.

 

[bbrewer]

Yes, I, like most obese people, know all about the calories.

I have preferences for certain reasons that have to do with attempts at self-moderation. I tend to guzzle when I drink, so if I'm guzzling liquor I will end up way, way more drunk far quicker than I intend. In fact, if I drink liquor drinks I will end up passed-out drunk and probably close to alcohol poisoning with the world's most debilitating hangover the next day. The volume and feeling of fullness from beer and wine is a safety that slows me down.

I have the exact same issue, years of beer drinking gives me a certain rhythm. It is not suitable for wine or stronger mixed drinks. I mix vodka and diet sports drinks down to about 4.5%. Unsweet tea with diet lemonade is also good. I get full and slow down.

 

[janedoe]

I have to take yearly ASAM courses, and noticed The National ASAM Conference, in April, is having a lecture on on Sema/GPL1's effects on alcohol use. Unfortunately employer is not paying for attendance. Knowing this is going to be discussed, w/ what is considered the agency that is the standard for Addictive Medicine, this will no doubt lead this to being used at some point for addiction if the anecdotal evidence continues, as well as the studies. The addiction crisis is a hot topic, especially the last 25 years and generates a ton of money from the feds for States and County funds for addiction. This definitely will contribute to CMS standards for payment of GPL1 for addition, eventually.

 

[chmuse]

I have to take yearly ASAM courses, and noticed The National ASAM Conference, in April, is having a lecture on on Sema/GPL1's effects on alcohol use. Unfortunately employer is not paying for attendance. Knowing this is going to be discussed, w/ what is considered the agency that is the standard for Addictive Medicine, this will no doubt lead this to being used at some point for addiction if the anecdotal evidence continues, as well as the studies. The addiction crisis is a hot topic, especially the last 25 years and generates a ton of money from the feds for States and County funds for addiction. This definitely will contribute to CMS standards for payment of GPL1 for addition, eventually.

My psych says I'm not the only one on sema for that reason, and that it works well for most of her patients. It will be interesting to see how many people start claiming to be alcoholics to get it because insurance won't cover medicinal weight loss, but will cover addiction treatment. A lot of insurance companies moved this year to remove medicines from coverage, but left surgeries like gastric bypass.

 

[janedoe]

My psych says I'm not the only one on sema for that reason, and that it works well for most of her patients. It will be interesting to see how many people start claiming to be alcoholics to get it because insurance won't cover medicinal weight loss, but will cover addiction treatment. A lot of insurance companies moved this year to remove medicines from coverage, but left surgeries like gastric bypass.

I concur. I have to argue with my PCP for labs more than once a year, w/ employer health Insurance. Ironically, if I was an addict, I would have any care I wanted, and even some that I didn't inquire about. Addiction is big business, but there is no money in people getting well, so if it happens, it will be slow going for sure for addiction medicinal use, but certainly quicker than the medical weightloss need.

 

[chmuse]

I concur. I have to argue with my PCP for labs more than once a year, w/ employer health Insurance. Ironically, if I was an addict, I would have any care I wanted, and even some that I didn't inquire about. Addiction is big business, but there is no money in people getting well, so if it happens, it will be slow going for sure for addiction medicinal use, but certainly quicker than the medical weightloss need.

I figure it'll be like the weight loss. Covered until it gets too expensive and then removed from coverage as soon as they can.

 

[BillGoldberg]

I’m sorry, I know this isn’t what you asked, but have you considered going to an AA meeting? I’m in recovery, haven’t drank in over a decade, haven’t been to a meeting in a long time, but in the early days of getting sober it was super helpful if just as free group therapy with people who you could relate with. I still use the coping skills and approach in all kinds of life problems.

Good luck getting this sorted out. White knuckling it can be tough. Eventually if you don’t drink for long enough you don’t think about it anymore, or at least that’s how it went for me.

This is basically my story. I was about to bring up AA myself. My life has only gotten better because I stopped drinking amongst other things