Tirz has about completely removed my desire to drink. I’ve been heavy drinker at times, and completely sober at times. This seems different, just zero desire - there’s been the same bottles on my counter for months!
Every study I've seen says sema is best because it bonds best to the right receptor. Maybe try stacking a small amount of sema?Jealous, I am not experiencing this.
I'm sorry to hear that!Well the anti-drinking effects of tirz have greatly diminished for me. The disinterest in drinking just didn't last for me. I'm sad and disappointed about that, but I will keep trying to quit and at least cut down. If only because I'm pretty sure that drinking is effectively canceling out much if not all of the helpful Tirz effects, not just weight loss.
Have you done a full panel? My blood work reads well, but you can still have liver issues/ cirrhosis even if your blood looks okay.Nice thing is that even though I partake in the spirits too much, liver enzymes are perfect on Reta. View attachment 5152
What is included in a full panel?Have you done a full panel? My blood work reads well, but you can still have liver issues/ cirrhosis even if your blood looks okay.
First link I found on it
Honestly.... I'm not 100% sure all of them. I know it involves more than just AST and ALT. My point was more that liver damage can be sneaky and you won't always see it on basic blood tests until it's pretty far gone.What is included in a full panel?
i looked at the link you provided and it announces the findings from a 2021 study but I can't see where any medical facilities are actually using the Cirrus algorithm.
Agree. The researcher in that study in the UK talks about a "fingerprint" pointing to cirrhosis in basic blood work when liver enzymes ALT and AST are normal, but makes no mention of what specifically those other markers are in the blood work. It's like they left out this information on purpose.What is included in a full panel?
i looked at the link you provided and it announces the findings from a 2021 study but I can't see where any medical facilities are actually using the Cirrus algorithm.
I’m exactly where you were. So the retratrutide is more effective than just tirz? Can you say more about the exact changes you made? Thank you!As an update, I'm happy to report that the desire to drink is GREATLY dampened. I have not gone completely dry, but instead of 1 bottle of wine or 6-8 beers nightly, I have 2 beers when we go out to dinner on the weekend. I have gone weeks without drinking or wanting to drink.
One Friday night I stopped at one beer. ONE. That has never happened in my life. Before I would have said, "What is the point of ONE? Doesn't even get me drunk!" Now I simply don't want another. Like, what *is* that???
It's really quite amazing, such that I'm dying to know a detailed, scientific, Biochem 101 explanation of exactly how this mechanism works. It must be very tied to addiction pathways. It's fascinating to me.
Sorry, since I originally asked about Reta's effects on alcohol consumption, it gives the impression I was talking about Reta, but I am talking about the effects of Tirzepatide in these subsequent posts. But if you read through to the end, you'll see that effect is greatly dampened now, just a few months later. I can certainly drink through the Tirz effects that made me uninterested in alcohol. And I did that for most of December, part of January. For a few weeks I went right back to the nightly bottle of wine or 6-7 beers. I lost no weight during that time, unsurprisingly.I’m exactly where you were. So the retratrutide is more effective than just tirz? Can you say more about the exact changes you made? Thank you!
Thank you for responding! I have heard that the alcohol cravings aren’t as reduced for people who are not obese. I am just a little overweight, so I wondered if that might be why I haven’t experienced the lack of interest or distaste for alcohol. I noticed one comment suggested stacking a bit of semi with the tirz. Maybe I will try that. Of course, I agree that other recovery programs may be helpful, but I’m looking at both paths.Sorry, since I originally asked about Reta's effects on alcohol consumption, it gives the impression I was talking about Reta, but I am talking about the effects of Tirzepatide in these subsequent posts. But if you read through to the end, you'll see that effect is greatly dampened now, just a few months later. I can certainly drink through the Tirz effects that made me uninterested in alcohol. And I did that for most of December, part of January. For a few weeks I went right back to the nightly bottle of wine or 6-7 beers. I lost no weight during that time, unsurprisingly.
But it is still easier to make the decision to not drink when I am on tirz. Now that I cut out drinking again, the weight is slowly moving back down again.
I tried Reta for about 6-7 weeks but the skin sensitivity was a big issue, plus I had a history of a very painful neuropathy issue that resolved long ago and I am very afraid of getting again. I also disliked the increased feeling of hunger, specifically cravings for sweets which were previously never an issue for me. So I was never able to see first hand how much better Reta was at suppressing alcohol cravings.
I've only been on sema, but I can confirm it works well. Anecdotes I've seen seem to show sema is best for addictive behaviors.Thank you for responding! I have heard that the alcohol cravings aren’t as reduced for people who are not obese. I am just a little overweight, so I wondered if that might be why I haven’t experienced the lack of interest or distaste for alcohol. I noticed one comment suggested stacking a bit of semi with the tirz. Maybe I will try that. Of course, I agree that other recovery programs may be helpful, but I’m looking at both paths.
Oh no, I am obese, started at class III and now at class I. So I can't say whether that's true for others, but it's not the case for me. For me it is more a Pavlovian conditioning, functional type of alcohol addiction. But still an addiction, I'm not deluding myself about that.Thank you for responding! I have heard that the alcohol cravings aren’t as reduced for people who are not obese. I am just a little overweight, so I wondered if that might be why I haven’t experienced the lack of interest or distaste for alcohol. I noticed one comment suggested stacking a bit of semi with the tirz. Maybe I will try that. Of course, I agree that other recovery programs may be helpful, but I’m looking at both paths.
Wine and beer have lots of calories.. A low calorie drink like a Whisky diet didn't impede my weight loss. Not encouraging drinking, but if you must, go for hard alcohol mixed with diet pop.Sorry, since I originally asked about Reta's effects on alcohol consumption, it gives the impression I was talking about Reta, but I am talking about the effects of Tirzepatide in these subsequent posts. But if you read through to the end, you'll see that effect is greatly dampened now, just a few months later. I can certainly drink through the Tirz effects that made me uninterested in alcohol. And I did that for most of December, part of January. For a few weeks I went right back to the nightly bottle of wine or 6-7 beers. I lost no weight during that time, unsurprisingly.
But it is still easier to make the decision to not drink when I am on tirz. Now that I cut out drinking again, the weight is slowly moving back down again.
I tried Reta for about 6-7 weeks but the skin sensitivity was a big issue, plus I had a history of a very painful neuropathy issue that resolved long ago and I am very afraid of getting again. I also disliked the increased feeling of hunger, specifically cravings for sweets which were previously never an issue for me. So I was never able to see first hand how much better Reta was at suppressing alcohol cravings.
Moving from class 3 to 1 is fantastic -that is a lot to celebrate right there. I’m also very functional which makes it easier to ignore the negative consequences. When I have had periods of sobriety, my anxiety is lower. Wishing you the best.Oh no, I am obese, started at class III and now at class I. So I can't say whether that's true for others, but it's not the case for me. For me it is more a Pavlovian conditioning, functional type of alcohol addiction. But still an addiction, I'm not deluding myself about that.
Thank you. Has the effect been consistent over time? Or did you notice less or more after several weeks on it?I've only been on sema, but I can confirm it works well. Anecdotes I've seen seem to show sema is best for addictive behaviors.