Someone told you to "go grey" and now you're here.

Heads up, I'll be removing any messages from this thread that contain links to vendors' websites, even if that link is to something useful such as a calculator or dosing information. This can't be a marketing thread and the only way to keep it free from that is being strict about it, no gray area. Thanks for understanding.
Much appreciated! I tried to keep links to within the forum where possible. That's the same reason I didn't link a YouTube for reconstitution, most of the ones I found were from people trying to sell things.
 
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Excellent job with this chmuse.
I think something that I don't see listed and really needs to be mentioned more across several places is blood work. Especially with the loads of new people pouring into the community. Getting regular blood work done is important and can identify issues before they become major problems.
That's just my two cents, take it or leave it.
 
Excellent job with this chmuse.
I think something that I don't see listed and really needs to be mentioned more across several places is blood work. Especially with the loads of new people pouring into the community. Getting regular blood work done is important and can identify issues before they become major problems.
That's just my two cents, take it or leave it.
I actually agree! My PCP told me me every three months, but that's a discussion you should be having with your doctor.

In some states, you can go to Quest or LabCorp and order your own blood work but it would be better to have a professional interpret it for you.

I don't know who to suggest outside of the US.
 
Be careful doing this if you have any type of security clearance, we call it grey market for a reason.
I am curious about this . People order "drugs" online from overseas all the time. The question comes into play with "scheduled" drugs like benzos. That is more serious and you can get a letter or worse, the feds could show up at your door. But this is not a regulated drug so is it that great of a risk from a legal perspective? I am not saying its 100 percent within the law but I would kind of comparing it to ordering Viagra from overseas rather than ordering Xanax.
 
I am curious about this . People order "drugs" online from overseas all the time. The question comes into play with "scheduled" drugs like benzos. That is more serious and you can get a letter or worse, the feds could show up at your door. But this is not a regulated drug so is it that great of a risk from a legal perspective? I am not saying its 100 percent within the law but I would kind of comparing it to ordering Viagra from overseas rather than ordering Xanax.
I've seen people saying it can affect your Global Entry. I do not have experience with it myself. I probably could have worded it better; my point was more to make sure you're not risking anything important to you by doing this.
 
I am curious about this . People order "drugs" online from overseas all the time. The question comes into play with "scheduled" drugs like benzos. That is more serious and you can get a letter or worse, the feds could show up at your door. But this is not a regulated drug so is it that great of a risk from a legal perspective? I am not saying its 100 percent within the law but I would kind of comparing it to ordering Viagra from overseas rather than ordering Xanax.
The below thread was a very lengthy discussion on the legal risk to gray activities with several lawyers weighing in. TLDR: As a user, you're probably fine, as a seller a little bit higher risk.

I consider loss of GE an inconvenience but not a real legal risk UNLESS it impacts my wife's GE, then it would be a health risk for me :)

 
The below thread was a very lengthy discussion on the legal risk to gray activities with several lawyers weighing in. TLDR: As a user, you're probably fine, as a seller a little bit higher risk.

I consider loss of GE an inconvenience but not a real legal risk UNLESS it impacts my wife's GE, then it would be a health risk for me :)

I just read pretty much the entire thread. That was entertaining.
 
I've seen people saying it can affect your Global Entry. I do not have experience with it myself. I probably could have worded it better; my point was more to make sure you're not risking anything important to you by doing this.
Is there any case where someone said they lost Global Entry over something like this ? I found a couple of posts from searching from clayd but he says "someone said" and then one of the posts is referring to fentanyl . This is not fentanyl, this is not a narcotic. I don't think it would be a risk.
 
Is there any case where someone said they lost Global Entry over something like this ? I found a couple of posts from searching from clayd but he says "someone said" and then one of the posts is referring to fentanyl . This is not fentanyl, this is not a narcotic. I don't think it would be a risk.
I don't think it happened to anyone here, I think someone knew someone on reddit.... I think if you search reddit you will find a few posts on it.

If you choose the vendor's preferred shipping method (not DHL) many will bulk ship to a US "warehouse" and then break down the shipment, add a label and ship to you. In these cases, your name/address will likely not appear on the product while it clears customs. If you pay for expedited shipping many of the sellers use DHL and I have heard about 10% seizure rate, but this from claims for others. Most will reship a customs seized shipment for free if you use their preferred shipping (some call it a "special line") but it will likely take a couple of months for you to get the shipment. Most will not reship if you don't use their preferred shipping or "special line".

Bottom line, don't use expedited shipping and ask the seller if they bulk ship through customs and have a reship guarantee.
 
Is there any case where someone said they lost Global Entry over something like this ? I found a couple of posts from searching from clayd but he says "someone said" and then one of the posts is referring to fentanyl . This is not fentanyl, this is not a narcotic. I don't think it would be a risk.
Any customs seizure at all can result in GE revocation. People have lost GE over counterfeit watch straps.
 
Do people send a vial for testing with every order or in case of the big ones that are popular on here that have been tested by other users, is that necessary ?
 
Do people send a vial for testing with every order or in case of the big ones that are popular on here that have been tested by other users, is that necessary ?
depends on your risk tolerance. The only way to know for sure is to test your kit. It's the only responsible thing to recommend.

but I'd be lying if I said I didn't sometimes rely on group tests, other peoples tests, and group buy tests (just not vendor organized ones).
 

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