Tesa Dosage / Vial Ratio

[DaddyBigRig]

So I have generally found that the vial dosage/mg ratio is somewhat correlated to ensure you’re not cycling through lots of vials.

Understandably these peps all go through their own manufacturing process but that being said I think the majority of what you see in a vial is filler anyway.

Looking at Tesa dosages I see that it is around 1-2mg a day. Why is it that the vials are being produced as 2, 5, 10mg *vendor specific.

Given the market has dictated the demand, I’m sure I’m just missing something here.

 

[hexagonal]

2mg is what they used in the egrifta trials for HIV patients, and why it is sort of the de-facto dose. The 5 days on 2 days off is just to make it work nicely with 10mg vials for that dosage. Some people run at 1mg.

You can always get your IGF-1 levels tested before and after starting to take it and see how you are responding and tweak from there.

 

[DaddyBigRig]

Yep, understood, but let’s say you take 2mg a day and you buy 1 kit that lasts you 10 days, that’s hardly a practical dosage/mg ratio compared to what a cycle length is. So my question is, given the cycle length, why would they even bother with 2mg vials?

 

[hexagonal]

From a practical perspective, I wouldn't. 5mg might make sense if you respond well to 1mg/day, but yeah, I'd only buy 10mg.

I've just swapped to regular ol HGH though.

 

[DaddyBigRig]

From a practical perspective, I wouldn't. 5mg might make sense if you respond well to 1mg/day, but yeah, I'd only buy 10mg.

I've just swapped to regular ol HGH though.

How have you found the swap?

 

[tul9033]

What about a Tesamorelin/Ipamorelin blend? I have a few vials of each and was going to mix them them together. Has anyone tried the blends? I have CJC-1295 no DAC too I was planning to mix with Ipamorelin. Just one blend cycle at a time, NOT both blends together. These are my next steps after going maintenance on Tirz.

 

[catdog]

To clarify, so these tesamorelin kits I am seeing don't even last that long? haha

 

[hexagonal]

How have you found the swap?

Good so far, but I imagine it'll take me a while to really know. Not planning on doing additional bloodwork for them until I've been back on for another couple of months.

 

[hexagonal]

To clarify, so these tesamorelin kits I am seeing don't even last that long? haha

10 weeks for the 10mg kits if you follow the standard 2mg/day, 5 days on 2 days off schedule.

I wouldn't recommend running any longer than this either, unless your insulin and blood glucose don't see significant elevation.

 

[catdog]

10 weeks for the 10mg kits if you follow the standard 2mg/day, 5 days on 2 days off schedule.

I wouldn't recommend running any longer than this either, unless your insulin and blood glucose don't see significant elevation.

Gotcha. I’ve heard from some that the 5 on 2 off has been perpetuated by big pharma due to money reasons and not so much physiology.

How long a break to take after doing 10 week schedule?

 

[hexagonal]

Gotcha. I’ve heard from some that the 5 on 2 off has been perpetuated by big pharma due to money reasons and not so much physiology.

How long a break to take after doing 10 week schedule?

afaik egrifta is an every day thing, the 5 on 2 off is a ugl/bodybuilder cost saving thing based on how a lot of them handle hgh. A lot of the off-the-beaten-path peptide knowledge comes from the bodybuilding circles, because they've been using this stuff for far longer than those of us that came in as glp-1 users.

Bro-science advice is time off = time on for it, but I expect the real answer is more about how your body reacts to it. Elevated IGF-1 is probably detrimental to your overall lifespan - people that have excessive amounts of hgh/igf-1 tend to die earlier on average - but potentially positive for healthspan. Other concerns around things like blood glucose, insulin, etc., are likely to be bigger drivers for anything more immediate. So genes and diet will come into play there.

I only did 8 weeks on tesa/ipa and my blood glucose was up to 105 fasting and insulin was up to 24. Got bloodwork 4 weeks later, waited a week to get the results, started HGH. Seeing how much that impacts my blood glucose and insulin now.