Think Ima lay off hoarding reta.

[randompersonrandom]

So I've GOT ten years max dose of tirz, which is what I'm on. I've tried out a vial of r-30, not long enough or on a smart enough titration to get meaningful and consistent experience, but long enough to know that it doesn't cause me any particular side effects and starts to take effect at around 8 mg, which is all I actually wanted. It's always been my intention to stay on tirz, stash the reta in the freezer, and maybe switch to it someday when it's been approved and has been out in the general population long enough for us to know a lot more about it . And I do like to slow-hoard, which is to buy a kit every month or two when there's a good price, and stopping if I get to ten years max dose like I did with tirz.

I'm at five years mid-dose stash with reta, but I think Ima stop there. Like, I know that tirz is tirz is tirz, it's a cockroach, it lives forever in a good freezer, you can freeze it after recon so you can work with way-higher-than-your-dosage vials, it doesn't degrade much in the freezer, and there's not a lot of drama with its manufacture. I know it's basically fine to doomsday-hoard tirz.

But every new discussion about reta is "hey, this is weird and sensitive." Sometimes it goes cloudy even with hospira cause maybe the excipient has some salts or something which will wreck it. It doesn't freeze well or it does and degrades a lot after 45 days. Also sometimes it doesn't degrade very fast at all and other times it degrades REALLY fast, let's spin the wheel.

The reason I'm not using it yet is because of all of the early-years uncertainty on how this stuff acts and whether it's safe and the fact that we don't really know as much about it as we do about stuff that's been around for longer. But I'm thinking maybe those ought to be the reasons I don't actually stash a lot of it yet, either.

I have no doubt that when the next big things come out, I'll want to stash those too because wheee. But I think I'll cap "this is new" stashes at two years,

 

[woundcarping]

What’s it mean when you measure your Reta stash in grams?

 

[BNLFL]

I'm done hoarding Reta with 10-13 (7,680mg) years depending on dose. Now, I have a heck of a time passing a killer price from a GB.

 

[testyonenow42]

Sounds like a reasonable plan. Implementing the plan may be the challenge. 🙂

 

[ALVJAY]

I don't think theres much point in having 2-3+ years worth any way, by then there will be something better/more stable/more effective/more accessible/cheaper... the weight loss meds seem to be booming like crazy recently with more and more coming out.

 

[woundcarping]

I don't think theres much point in having 2-3+ years worth any way, by then there will be something better/more stable/more effective/more assessable/cheaper... the weight loss meds seem to be booming like crazy recently with more and more coming out.

That’s short sighted.

If you’re at maintenance, the only thing that practically matters to the initial goal is maintaining. The latest and greatest is irrelevant.

Running out of supply is catastrophic to the initial goal. It’s hard to improve accessibility beyond already having it.

Reta or Tirz going from $2.50-2.75/week to $0/week is financially irrelevant.

 

[swimmer]

I have simular issues. I hoard reta too. I am on tirz for maintenance and I love it. I have never even tried reta but man it is popular. Almost every new peptide user I meet is on what they incorrectly call GIP-3. The thing is if and when society breaks down, reta will be like cigarettes in prison. Gold, silver and retta will be the currency. Whenever I need to bump up a peptide order to get free shipping I usually add reta or more tirz.

I wish you luck quitting hoarding reta. I don't know if I could quit if I wanted to.

 

[Pinngo]

Substitute nuts for Tirz/Reta

 

[wheymaster1]

I like your thought process about not trying Reta until it becomes approved. I’m thinking in the same direction as you, especially with the higher heart rate increase side effects on reta. My heart rate is already slightly increased on tirz. How’s your experience with grey tirz vs mounjaro?

 

[petros600]

get it while you can!!

 

[BNLFL]

What’s it mean when you measure your Reta stash in grams?

Issues?

 

[Estarossa19]

I'm done hoarding Reta with 10-13 (7,680mg) years depending on dose. Now, I have a heck of a time passing a killer price from a GB.

That recent WW GB helped get my stash numbers up crazy. Can't wait for my wife and I to use it in 10 years.

 

[Beardboost]

I like your style, if I had the money id do exactly the same! So far I have to purchase every 2-3 months to hoard, preserves very well so I don't see why not!

 

[woundcarping]

Issues?

Not with my weight!😂

 

[Sarsippius]

get it while you can!!

He who hesitates is lost.

 

[Estarossa19]

It sounds like it's time to buy another kit

 

[BNLFL]

Not with my weight!😂

No, I think I have lack of restraint when buying this stuff. I don't think, I know. 😁

 

[Calm Logic]

So I've GOT ten years max dose of tirz, which is what I'm on. I've tried out a vial of r-30, not long enough or on a smart enough titration to get meaningful and consistent experience, but long enough to know that it doesn't cause me any particular side effects and starts to take effect at around 8 mg, which is all I actually wanted. It's always been my intention to stay on tirz, stash the reta in the freezer, and maybe switch to it someday when it's been approved and has been out in the general population long enough for us to know a lot more about it . And I do like to slow-hoard, which is to buy a kit every month or two when there's a good price, and stopping if I get to ten years max dose like I did with tirz.

I'm at five years mid-dose stash with reta, but I think Ima stop there. Like, I know that tirz is tirz is tirz, it's a cockroach, it lives forever in a good freezer, you can freeze it after recon so you can work with way-higher-than-your-dosage vials, it doesn't degrade much in the freezer, and there's not a lot of drama with its manufacture. I know it's basically fine to doomsday-hoard tirz.

But every new discussion about reta is "hey, this is weird and sensitive." Sometimes it goes cloudy even with hospira cause maybe the excipient has some salts or something which will wreck it. It doesn't freeze well or it does and degrades a lot after 45 days. Also sometimes it doesn't degrade very fast at all and other times it degrades REALLY fast, let's spin the wheel.

The reason I'm not using it yet is because of all of the early-years uncertainty on how this stuff acts and whether it's safe and the fact that we don't really know as much about it as we do about stuff that's been around for longer. But I'm thinking maybe those ought to be the reasons I don't actually stash a lot of it yet, either.

I have no doubt that when the next big things come out, I'll want to stash those too because wheee. But I think I'll cap "this is new" stashes at two years,

We need to start a trend of buying vintage reta from last year, for immediate consumption.

 

[CJsMom]

We are of a similar mindset. I am a newbie, but I already have 4 years of Tirz, which I love and about the same in Reta (FOMO as I haven't even tried it yet). And I still find myself scanning the vendor posts every day looking for more. But I have decided to wait until I figure the group buy thing out to buy more, despite myriad temptations. Now that I have graduated to apprentice and can hang out with the cool kids, I have more doors open to me.

 

[Danger1212]

Hi, my name’s Danger1212… and I’m addicted to R. 👋

It started innocent. “just 1mg, just to see what happens.”
Next thing I know I’m scheduling my week around injection day like it’s a national holiday.

“I can quit anytime I want…”
…but also, what if I just bump it to 2mg… strictly for research purposes. 😅

Food noise? Gone.
Self-control? Questionable.
Sleep? Optional apparently.

And listen…I’m not hoarding.
I just like to be… prepared.
That’s not a stash, that’s a strategic reserve.This is all strictly for research.

Anyway, thanks for letting me share. I’ll be in the corner sipping electrolytes, organizing my “totally not a hoard” by expiration date, and pretending I don’t already have my next dose planned out.

 

[Dos-Dox]

Your logic seems very sound to me! I started with reta, so no experience with tirz, but the early long-term degradation data on reta is what keeps me from getting too carried away on the stash. But I can sure relate with @BNLFL as well because seeing reta routinely in that 20-something cents per mg is sure hard to resist! That total $ figure for pep purchases on my tracking spreadsheet occasionally helps me refrain from buying more. I admire your discipline to your monthly pep budget! It’s a great approach!

 

[Troposphere]

I'm currently sitting on 2 years worth at my dosage. Probably continue stocking up. I have the freezer space, so why not? I love not being ruled by food, so I'm in for the foreseeable future.

 

[Danger1212]

the early long-term degradation data on reta is what keeps me from getting too carried away on the stash.

I can honestly say I have not yet put my eyes on the early long-term degradation data on Reta. However, Janoshik in his Peptalk interview said that T&R would last years in the refrigerator and decades in the freezer. This was reassuring to hear.

 

[Calm Logic]

decades in the freezer. This was reassuring to hear.

There's a reason labs pay big bucks for fancy, supercold freezers.

Since I don't have a manual-defrost freezer, my favorite setup now is a Hydrapeak with inserts, and the Hydrapeak fits inside a round beverage cooler. And I also use Thermos food jars for individual kits. I get everything except the Hydrapeak stuff from Goodwill.

 

[Chili777]

So I've GOT ten years max dose of tirz, which is what I'm on. I've tried out a vial of r-30, not long enough or on a smart enough titration to get meaningful and consistent experience, but long enough to know that it doesn't cause me any particular side effects and starts to take effect at around 8 mg, which is all I actually wanted. It's always been my intention to stay on tirz, stash the reta in the freezer, and maybe switch to it someday when it's been approved and has been out in the general population long enough for us to know a lot more about it . And I do like to slow-hoard, which is to buy a kit every month or two when there's a good price, and stopping if I get to ten years max dose like I did with tirz.

I'm at five years mid-dose stash with reta, but I think Ima stop there. Like, I know that tirz is tirz is tirz, it's a cockroach, it lives forever in a good freezer, you can freeze it after recon so you can work with way-higher-than-your-dosage vials, it doesn't degrade much in the freezer, and there's not a lot of drama with its manufacture. I know it's basically fine to doomsday-hoard tirz.

But every new discussion about reta is "hey, this is weird and sensitive." Sometimes it goes cloudy even with hospira cause maybe the excipient has some salts or something which will wreck it. It doesn't freeze well or it does and degrades a lot after 45 days. Also sometimes it doesn't degrade very fast at all and other times it degrades REALLY fast, let's spin the wheel.

The reason I'm not using it yet is because of all of the early-years uncertainty on how this stuff acts and whether it's safe and the fact that we don't really know as much about it as we do about stuff that's been around for longer. But I'm thinking maybe those ought to be the reasons I don't actually stash a lot of it yet, either.

I have no doubt that when the next big things come out, I'll want to stash those too because wheee. But I think I'll cap "this is new" stashes at two years,

Yeah, easy to say after how many WW R140 kits you have on order? I saw you over there. 🤣🤣🤣
I think I'm done after that, too!

 

[swimmer]

There's a reason labs pay big bucks for fancy freezers.

I think I need one of those too!!

 

[Danger1212]

There's a reason labs pay big bucks for fancy freezers.

I mean, Janoshik didn’t say it, but in my heart I heard, “The Freezer in Your Garage” 😁

 

[Danger1212]

Yeah, easy to say after how many WW R140 kits you have on order? I saw you over there. 🤣🤣🤣
I think I'm done after that, too!

Haha, Busted!!
If you see my name on that document it’s for research purposes only…

 

[ALVJAY]

That’s short sighted.

Isn't it more short sighted to assume that what you're on now is your be all and end all?

Locking yourself into 5–10 years of one compound is basically betting that innovation will stall, which is the opposite of what’s happening.

When I mentioned 'better', I wasn't referring to faster and more significant weight loss, I was thinking more like Reta/Tirz dupes with better side effect profiles, longer-acting versions (less frequent dosing), oral versions improving etc.

Having a buffer of a few years is great, but I think staying open for better options (whatever that means to you and your goals) makes more sense.

 

[Youarewhen]

Pretty sure none of us are poor and the cost of peps on the gray is pretty minimal. A decade seems like a safe bet.