This forum needs to go private and invite only

Im going to stick to trusted QSC persoanlly. I like my messages ignored, reps to be assholes, and increasingly uncompetitive pricing.

My backup is Ano, when i want to be humbled by injection site pain

Damn Im starting to think there are issue within the chinese grey market
 
If admin ever has any issues I'll offer to host the site for free, DM me 🙂

(This is kinda my day job so I already run other Xenforo instances on my bare metal boxes. God bless Containerisation - it literally takes less than an hour to set up a new LAMP + Elastic environment.)
I don’t understand a goddamn thing you just said. When can you start?
 
Hanlon's Razor is a mental shortcut which teaches us, in the words of Robert J. Hanlon to “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” I agree with it and believe that I generally follow it in practice even to the point where I sometimes attribute innocent motives people and later learn that I was wrong. Still I believe I'm more accurate by following Hanlon's Razor.

I think it is always wiser to start out from a place of blaming a lack of thought rather than malice... Even if you turn out to be wrong.
 
I haven't scrolled through the latest on the Swiss yet, but I'm still pretty convinced everyone was given bunk raws
I now think it's even worse than that, everyone was given finished products. I don't agree anymore with the FF theory aha
 
I now think it's even worse than that, everyone was given finished products. I don't agree anymore with the FF theory aha
My thought is along the lines of:

Raw producer pulls scam on multiple finishers

Finishers sell to multiple dealers

We get product from dealers pretending to be finishers
 
I now think it's even worse than that, everyone was given finished products. I don't agree anymore with the FF theory aha
I think one take away here that is useful information is that GYC sold different batches under the same GB without testing or even telling anyone. That's pretty shitty.
 
No I'm fully aware others do it as well. People have become too comfortable relying on these gb tests. Back to pounding the drums about true blind 3rd party testing.
I think the pep market is going to be a in a little bit of turmoil while this shakes itself out, at least until after the Chinese new year holidays . We will also have a couple of weeks where nothing is produced and vendors are completely offline Fortunately, I'm stocked up.
 
I think the pep market is going to be a in a little bit of turmoil while this shakes itself out, at least until after the Chinese new year holidays . We will also have a couple of weeks where nothing is produced and vendors are completely offline Fortunately, I'm stocked up.
Maybe not a full stop, but less promotions for sure
 
I think the pep market is going to be a in a little bit of turmoil while this shakes itself out, at least until after the Chinese new year holidays . We will also have a couple of weeks where nothing is produced and vendors are completely offline Fortunately, I'm stocked up.
Anyone else find it depressing that people in China have better work schedules, and get more time off than we do here in the US?
 
Anyone else find it depressing that people in China have better work schedules, and get more time off than we do here in the US?
Hardly. I visited China about 15 years ago and toured factories and businesses. The factory workers work like 12 hour days, six and sometimes seven days a week. Most live in "dormitories" at the factory so they basically work, eat and sleep there. Their only time off is during their holiday weeks and Chinese new year when they travel home to spend time with their families. Maybe its improved since then but they laugh at our work schedules and call us lazy.
 
The only reason I found this site was that it was made to be easily accessible. As to invitation-only groups, I'm never popular enough to become a member.
Same. I rarely have anything entertaining to say, I read, laugh, roll my eyes and keep my thoughts to myself too much.
 
Maybe not a full stop, but less promotions for sure
If the peptide industry in China is like every other Chinese industry I have worked with over the years, CNY is effectively a full and complete stop of everything. Nothing will be manufactured, nothing will be shipped, no one will be taking orders. If you're super lucky someone might respond to a wechat days later if it doesn't require them do any actual work and they can answer it off-hand.
 
Anyone else find it depressing that people in China have better work schedules, and get more time off than we do here in the US?
I might, if it was actually true.

As GimmeABreak mentioned, much of the Chinese manufacturing industry runs on the '996' system - 9am to 9pm, 6 days a week. There's been pushes to reduce this, but we're still talking 10 hour days, 5 to 6 days a week.

CNY is generally an unpaid break for the larger shutdown. There are only 11 statutory public holidays in China, and most of the days off during CNY do not get paid to the employees taking them off. Many of the statutory public holidays actually end up with the workers coming in for "make up" days as well, so they don't even decrease the number of days worked for many workers - just shift around when they occur.

The average Chinese factory worker is going to work about 50% more hours per annum than their american counterpart.
 
Is this actually a Xenforo cloud install or self hosted? Hopefully the later and really Xenforo can do nothing about it, other than refuse to issue a license update (for future patches).
Self hosted overseas. It was the whole point of this forum, which came into existence after a bunch of community discords were nuked.
 
This site is hosted and managed out of reach of those entities. Xenforo is the software, but isn’t involved in running the site to the best of my knowledge.
Bash:
$ dig +short glp1forum.com 

176.123.1.233

$ whois 176.123.1.233 | grep netname
netname:        AlexHost-NET

Appears to be a webhost out of Moldova. So yeah, should be safe.
 
If the peptide industry in China is like every other Chinese industry I have worked with over the years, CNY is effectively a full and complete stop of everything. Nothing will be manufactured, nothing will be shipped, no one will be taking orders. If you're super lucky someone might respond to a wechat days later if it doesn't require them do any actual work and they can answer it off-hand.
Tracy has said as much. For about three weeks there will be no shipping. No sales. Nothing.
 
Here’s what s/he said about Chinese new year. It might be worth a top level post for noobs like me to see and understand what to expect

The Chinese new year holidays will start in mid January, and it's a 15+ days holidays, when all shipments are paused because the logistics companies are fully closed, production stops, and my assistants will go back to their families to spend time with, so is the case of every chinese source, and you've seen how it looks the past 2-3 years. We advise you to make your orders earlier, during the next 3 weeks, you've been warned about the CN holidays, plan in advance!





Merry Chrismas, enjoy the Foie gras and yummy Oysters, My GLP-1 will be ready for you straight after ! 🎄😇
 
Bash:
$ dig +short glp1forum.com

176.123.1.233

$ whois 176.123.1.233 | grep netname
netname:        AlexHost-NET

Appears to be a webhost out of Moldova. So yeah, should be safe.
We just better hope the EU doesn't tell Moldova: "We'd really like you to be part of the EU but if you want to join, you better to shut down the GLP1FORUM." If the EU says that, we're toast.
 
Hardly. I visited China about 15 years ago and toured factories and businesses. The factory workers work like 12 hour days, six and sometimes seven days a week. Most live in "dormitories" at the factory so they basically work, eat and sleep there. Their only time off is during their holiday weeks and Chinese new year when they travel home to spend time with their families. Maybe its improved since then but they laugh at our work schedules and call us lazy.
It's in vogue to criticize the US. In theory, I'm fine with criticizing the US. We're free to criticize it all we want. However, at the same time, I so often hear folks describe other countries as being better than us at things where they clearly are not.
 
It's in vogue to criticize the US. In theory, I'm fine with criticizing the US. We're free to criticize it all we want. However, at the same time, I so often hear folks describe other countries as being better than us at things where they clearly are not.
China having a better work life balance was certainly a first for me, though.

Not getting political.... Not getting political....
 
if you really think China has a culture of work-life balance then you don’t know much about labor practices in China. Yes they have a couple of long holidays where the country shuts down for an extended period and factory workers doing 12-14 hour shifts 6 days/wk get to go home to see their families for a bit before returning to the meat grinder. I wouldn’t call that a particularly progressive or superior system. This is not political, it’s just a statement of fact.
 
Yeah, there are plenty of places with better work/life balance than the US... China is definitely not one of them.
I have travelled the globe in my career and one of the things I learned is that people often criticize the US but most would love to have the opportunity to live here. Despite our faults, I truly believe the US is the best country in the world.
 
Hanlon's Razor is a mental shortcut which teaches us, in the words of Robert J. Hanlon to “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” I agree with it and believe that I generally follow it in practice even to the point where I sometimes attribute innocent motives people and later learn that I was wrong. Still I believe I'm more accurate by following Hanlon's Razor.

Occam's razor is a problem-solving principle that suggests the simplest explanation is often the best one. It's also known as the principle of parsimony. The principle is named after William of Ockham, an English theologian, logician, and Franciscan friar who lived from around 1285 to 1348. The term "razor" refers to the idea of "shaving away" unnecessary assumptions. Philosophically, I aqree with Occam's razor, but in practice I often go chasing after squirrels.

A Gillette razor is just a razor, the type that you'd use on your face or your legs.
Hey Cliff Claven! 👋 it's ME, Norm! 😊 (Saved me from googling these razors)
 
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Here’s what s/he said about Chinese new year. It might be worth a top level post for noobs like me to see and understand what to expect

The Chinese new year holidays will start in mid January, and it's a 15+ days holidays, when all shipments are paused because the logistics companies are fully closed, production stops, and my assistants will go back to their families to spend time with, so is the case of every chinese source, and you've seen how it looks the past 2-3 years. We advise you to make your orders earlier, during the next 3 weeks, you've been warned about the CN holidays, plan in advance!
Done!
 
I have travelled the globe in my career and one of the things I learned is that people often criticize the US but most would love to have the opportunity to live here. Despite our faults, I truly believe the US is the best country in the world.
This is about where the politics slippery slope starts getting out of hand, so let's leave it at that please. There is no reply to this message, agreement or disagreement, that doesn't take it to a political place.
 
Nothing will happen during CNY. A lot of customers are about to experience some culture shock.
I used to buy rep shoes when I was a kid and I know all well how the Chinese operate around these times. I feel like people here think these companies operate like Amazon.
 
There is the hotpack incident, which seems like it's made up.

There is the shipping incident, where they used a warehouse that sent out insufficient postages. SRY apologized and reimbursed folks.

Then there is the incident where they shipped stuff marked as 60 mg but which only contained about 50 mg. In that incident, SRY notified the buyers before they received their stuff of the deficiency.

The opioid ground seems like it has legs: The US DOJ has indicted SRY for shipping a fentanyl-like opioid into the US. If someone says they're not going to buy for that reason, I have a hard time coming up with a good argument to the contrary. As to the rest of the reasons for not buying from SRY, they seem rather weak to me. SRY often has the best deals and their stuff regularly tests well.

Clayd wrote that SRY accepts AliPay. They didn't accept Alibaba Pay when I ordered from SRY. However, I double-checked. It appears SRY accepts Alibaba Pay. https://glp1forum.com/threads/sry-december-promotion.2096/#post-34124 That's great. I'll avoid using crypto if possible.
Made up you think huh?

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It's hard to believe a claim with so little proof has received this much attention.
Don't get me wrong I'm not defending sry or Alan. Just the timeline doesn't really make sense and that letter only shows that steroids were seized, not that sry had anything to do with it.

I'm not ordering from sry so it really doesn't matter to me. My point is just we don't know either way and it shouldn't be treated as fact unless more information is available.

Especially since that letter is from May, lol.
 
Made up you think huh?

See photo,

Looks like just some random letter. Date doesn't fit narrative. And neither does the text on the letter.

And the asshat didn't even redact his/her address on the letter.
 
Sorry you're being clowned on OP. I don't sincerely think that Lilly or Novo were directly involved in this incident, but I wouldn't be shocked if they are strategically applying pressure behind the scenes in a way that has incentivized this wonky behavior.

I can actually confirm that this place is more visible than a lot of people realize. For about $150 a month you can get access to tools that allow you to monitor activity on forums like this. I wasn't looking for that information, but I found it while looking for ways to monitor GLP-1 news. I'm cheap though. Pretty sure Lilly can afford the 5k/m package with all the bells and whistles.

EWB doesn't have the permissions necessary to make fundamental changes to this site so the best we can do is be mindful of the fact that we are very much in public, and try to keep discussion of sensitive topics in our more private spaces.

I also don't think there is a clear "best vendor" at the moment, but we have the opportunity to vote with our dollars and demand changes we believe reduce risk for us and increase our security. Now is an excellent time to do that with GYC if we think they are capable of rising to the challenge.
Notable, thanks for adding real value to what we consider. I thank you. A LOT.
 
It’s very OK to do that on sooo many levels.Thanks, it would be great to see more of it.
Pedantic. Arrogant.Hyperbole. Tiresome children practicing their maleness. This forum is FREE! UNRESTRAINED! UNRESTRICTED! It’s like a bunch of 13 year old skateboarding boys here. Can you SEE yourselves? of course you can’t. ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
Pedantic. Arrogant.Hyperbole. Tiresome children practicing their maleness. This forum is FREE! UNRESTRAINED! UNRESTRICTED! It’s like a bunch of 13 year old skateboarding boys here. Can you SEE yourselves? of course you can’t. ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
Are you having a stroke?
 
Pedantic. Arrogant.Hyperbole. Tiresome children practicing their maleness. This forum is FREE! UNRESTRAINED! UNRESTRICTED! It’s like a bunch of 13 year old skateboarding boys here. Can you SEE yourselves? of course you can’t. ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
Who hurt you? It’s not your fault.
 

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