Trump threatens new 100% tariff on Chinese imports starting Nov. 1 or sooner

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"Trump said that 'starting November 1st, 2025 (or sooner, depending on any further actions or changes taken by China), the United States of America will impose a Tariff of 100% on China, over and above any Tariff that they are currently paying.'”

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Trump threatens tech export limits, new 100% tariff on Chinese imports starting Nov. 1 or sooner

President Donald Trump says he hasn't canceled a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping planned for late October in South Korea after earlier expressing anger about export controls China has placed on rare earths.
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PopTart said:
The irony with tariffs is that the customer (you and me) pay the tariff and not CN seller.
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It's retaliatory cuz they don't wanna share their rare metals/elements that we need for everything. I voted for him but he's making peptides impossible and killing my 401k. They better make a deal...
 
fatbegone said:
"Trump said that 'starting November 1st, 2025 (or sooner, depending on any further actions or changes taken by China), the United States of America will impose a Tariff of 100% on China, over and above any Tariff that they are currently paying.'”

apnews.com

Trump threatens tech export limits, new 100% tariff on Chinese imports starting Nov. 1 or sooner

President Donald Trump says he hasn't canceled a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping planned for late October in South Korea after earlier expressing anger about export controls China has placed on rare earths.
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Does India make peptides?
 
Airborne Daddy said:
It's retaliatory cuz they don't wanna share their rare metals/elements that we need for everything. I voted for him but he's making peptides impossible and killing my 401k. They better make a deal...
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That’s not quite how it works. The U.S. imports many rare earth elements from countries like China because we lack large-scale domestic production. A 100% tariff would be a U.S. action—essentially a tax on imports—which would raise costs for products that use those materials (like electronics, EVs, and manufacturing equipment).

Other countries could retaliate, but the tariff itself isn’t because they don’t want to share—it’s the U.S. trying to pressure or protect certain industries
 
Jfrick11 said:
That’s not quite how it works. The U.S. imports many rare earth elements from countries like China because we lack large-scale domestic production. A 100% tariff would be a U.S. action—essentially a tax on imports—which would raise costs for products that use those materials (like electronics, EVs, and manufacturing equipment).

Other countries could retaliate, but the tariff itself isn’t because they don’t want to share—it’s the U.S. trying to pressure or protect certain industries
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What I read was china was gonna make us use permits, with restrictions and requirements and Trump said I guess there's no sense even meeting next month and then said I'll slap another 100% on the 30%.... seems like a reaction to china's action but I'm not a political science major.
 
Airborne Daddy said:
What I read was china was gonna make us use permits, with restrictions and requirements and Trump said I guess there's no sense even meeting next month and then said I'll slap another 100% on the 30%.... seems like a reaction to china's action but I'm not a political science major.
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Yeah, you’ve got the basic idea right — China did announce new export restrictions on certain rare earth materials and minerals, which are essential for tech, batteries, and manufacturing. The new rules would mean U.S. companies have to apply for permits and meet extra conditions to import them.

Trump’s response about “no sense meeting next month” and threatening another 100% tariff is definitely a reaction to that. So you’re right — it’s back-and-forth pressure.

The tricky part is that tariffs like that don’t just hit China — they raise costs for U.S. manufacturers who rely on those materials, which can ripple into higher prices and market drops. That’s probably what’s showing up in your 401k.

So yeah, it’s a real standoff — both sides using leverage, but in the meantime, it creates a lot of uncertainty for investors and consumers.
 
You know the sad part is that I will be leaving the country and resume my life in Thailand but getting scared that I might not be able to make that move if Trump keeps messing up the economy. Afraid I might loose all my retirement money because I will only be able to take my money out June 2026 without paying high fees, my plans of retiring at 60 might be just a dream if he keeps messing with every country.
 
I’ve gotten non-US investments in my 401k mix since early this year. Intentional at a macro level or not, our fiscal policies have been unpredictable and economies do not like unpredictable situations. (Disclaimer: I am not paid for my economic knowledge for my day job.)

Back on topic: how will this affect our domestic vendors (assuming additional happens)? Will my US-warehoused seller double their prices?

And any speculation with commercial prices? They’re already marking up at least 100x, will this be an excuse to increase further? Buyers have a lot of budget pressure, would brands give them a break? my vote is no.
 
vewdew34 said:
You know the sad part is that I will be leaving the country and resume my life in Thailand but getting scared that I might not be able to make that move if Trump keeps messing up the economy. Afraid I might loose all my retirement money because I will only be able to take my money out June 2026 without paying high fees, my plans of retiring at 60 might be just a dream if he keeps messing with every country.
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Assuming that your retirement funds are locked up in some sort of tax deferred investment account, seek what options you have in terms of investing in countries other than the US right now. Also with the inflated prices of stocks right now, it wouldn't be a bad idea to invest more heavily in bonds. I have recently changed my allocations to reflect more international exposure and more bonds. Don't go too far in doing either, however. There is danger involved in predicting what the markets will do. Over the long term, stocks outperform bonds. In the last few decades, those who have invested in US stocks have generally done quite well compared to those who invested in foreign stocks. Be diversified so that if things do go bad like you fear, you will still be hurt, just not as badly as you would otherwise.
 
AndyPanda said:
Yes, but you might as well go to a domestic vendor considering the price points. You can find lyopholized on IndiaMart and Kawwal sells some pens and liquid vials.
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Most everything I see on Indiamart is just rebranded CN peptides like we're already buying. Exception being the autopen stuff that is Noro and E.L. made.
 
keangkong said:
Assuming that your retirement funds are locked up in some sort of tax deferred investment account, seek what options you have in terms of investing in countries other than the US right now. Also with the inflated prices of stocks right now, it wouldn't be a bad idea to invest more heavily in bonds. I have recently changed my allocations to reflect more international exposure and more bonds. Don't go too far in doing either, however. There is danger involved in predicting what the markets will do. Over the long term, stocks outperform bonds. In the last few decades, those who have invested in US stocks have generally done quite well compared to those who invested in foreign stocks. Be diversified so that if things do go bad like you fear, you will still be hurt, just not as badly as you would otherwise.
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^^^^^ Knows how the game is played ^^^^^
 
In related news, the chocolate ration has been increased from 30 g to 20 g.

Also, anyone looking to sell unwanted reta?
 
keangkong said:
Assuming that your retirement funds are locked up in some sort of tax deferred investment account, seek what options you have in terms of investing in countries other than the US right now. Also with the inflated prices of stocks right now, it wouldn't be a bad idea to invest more heavily in bonds. I have recently changed my allocations to reflect more international exposure and more bonds. Don't go too far in doing either, however. There is danger involved in predicting what the markets will do. Over the long term, stocks outperform bonds. In the last few decades, those who have invested in US stocks have generally done quite well compared to those who invested in foreign stocks. Be diversified so that if things do go bad like you fear, you will still be hurt, just not as badly as you would otherwise.
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I do have it set to moderate 75% bonds and 25% stock but still kinda scared since I still have 9 more months before I can cash out.
 
Foggy-Hollow said:
I’ve gotten non-US investments in my 401k mix since early this year. Intentional at a macro level or not, our fiscal policies have been unpredictable and economies do not like unpredictable situations. (Disclaimer: I am not paid for my economic knowledge for my day job.)

Back on topic: how will this affect our domestic vendors (assuming additional happens)? Will my US-warehoused seller double their prices?

And any speculation with commercial prices? They’re already marking up at least 100x, will this be an excuse to increase further? Buyers have a lot of budget pressure, would brands give them a break? my vote is no.
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Wait, do we think these peptides are coming in via legit avenues subject to inspections and tariffs? I assumed they were not.
 
MsGizmo said:
I really want to say more .. but it would just get deleted.
For the best I suppose. There are to many people to blame (beyond this forum) and they won't ever admit that they were wrong anyway.
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I concur. See, we can be friends!😉 Also, our moderator has delicate sensibilities.
 
MsGizmo said:
I really want to say more .. but it would just get deleted.
For the best I suppose.
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Not sure if it’s for the best. I think it’s a little odd that your post was deleted. Especially since I’ve seen “Angry” members post their very biased opinions from the other side of the political spectrum without rebuke. I get that there’s a political “fine line,” but I wish it were a little more consistent across the board when it comes to deleting posts. But I guess that’s the beauty of the “ignore” button. 😙
 
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yobculture said:
Not sure if it’s for the best. I think it’s a little odd that your post was deleted. Especially since I’ve seen “Angry” members post their very biased opinions from the other side of the political spectrum without rebuke. I get that there’s a political “fine line,” but I wish it were a little more consistent across the board when it comes to deleting posts. But I guess that’s the beauty of the “ignore” button. 😙
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At least the mods are deleting our opinions from both sides of the spectrum. I know I’m guilty of toeing the line often.😝
 
vewdew34 said:
I do have it set to moderate 75% bonds and 25% stock but still kinda scared since I still have 9 more months before I can cash out.
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The Vanguard 2020 Target Date fund (for someone who retired about 5 years ago) has an allocation right now of 36.55% stocks.. Stocks over the long term grow much more than bonds. Since you're already heavily tilted towards bonds, my advice is to stay the course. It's extremely hard to time the markets correctly. There are some factors, like tariffs and the Schiller PPE being extremely high, that suggest the stock market may be overvalued. However, it could also be that the economy will grow a great deal due to AI. Also due to changes in how people are able to access the stock market, at home and online, a far larger group of Americans than in the past is invested in stocks. The rise of the index funds and other passive investment vehicles with low fees have made stock investing better than in the past. Since the Bush 2000 tax cuts, taxes on earnings from stocks are much less than from corporate bonds. I cannot guarantee you that markets won't go down; I'm fearful of that myself. But if you worry about what markets might do, you'll lose a tremendous opportunity for growth.

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