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[Fisherman2356]

Nah there are other issues — repeated bad tests, using atypical fillers for example; and incidentally WTF is up with those amber vials — but honestly the topic is so damn tired that I’m not going to get into it all over again.

Got it. New to this peptide thing, so I'm not very well versed but this "using atypical fillers" would be very concerning. Read elsewhere people getting sick from fillers.

 

[chmuse]

Nah there are other issues — repeated bad tests, using atypical fillers for example; and incidentally WTF is up with those amber vials — but honestly the topic is so damn tired that I’m not going to get into it all over again.

I feel like we're all just tired of arguing about it at this point. It's been discussed to death, use the search bar and your brain and form your own opinion.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

using atypical fillers jives with him doing his own product. no?

everything can't be a lie?

bad tests? worse than no peptide detected? its bad all over.

 

[Fisherman2356]

There's an entire second telegram where people test his peptides. They send it to jano and he foots the bill.

Unless people are now questioning jano, I find that reasonable.

Thanks for this info.

 

[keangkong]

First I was Secretly Stairmaster, can I be Secretly Cain next?

Absolutely. I know you're Tracy too.

 

[chmuse]

Absolutely. I know you're Tracy too.

Tracy isn't a taken username. I did consider it, but I didn't want Bee to ban me. He can see our IP and I'm too lazy to use a VPN

 

[keangkong]

Absolutely. I know you're Tracy too.

chmuse--What gave me away?

 

[chmuse]

chmuse--What gave me away?

Only a hottie like Tracy could get away with pretending to look like a gorilla

 

[hexagonal]

Nah there are other issues — repeated bad tests, using atypical fillers for example; and incidentally WTF is up with those amber vials — but honestly the topic is so damn tired that I’m not going to get into it all over again.

There are plenty of things to talk about with Nexaph but I think the amber vials thing isn't particularly interesting - my compounded tirz came in amber vials too. If you filter anyway, you can put it in whatever vial you want.

 

[hexagonal]

using atypical fillers jives with him doing his own product. no?

everything can't be a lie?

bad tests? worse than no peptide detected? its bad all over.

If he's doing large enough orders from someone I'm sure he could request whatever filler he wanted.

 

[keangkong]

@exploitedworkerbee

To preface, I’ve never ordered from this Nexaph guy and have just been doing my own due diligence in learning about his work ethics and what not.

While I agree that ethically there is some fucked up shit about his past and maybe somewhat present (anecdotally seems like he’s gotten better with that but who truly knows). Wouldn’t you say it’s too far to thread ban him? I would think it’s more reasonable for him to get shit on by reputable people like you but allow him to continue to have a voice and allow the people to decide for themselves whether ethics is something they care about.

Just my logic.

Exploitedworkerbee made a number of serious allegations of lying by Cain. Then Cain responded with a sarcastic post not denying the allegations. It seems a thread ban is reasonable. This forum ought to issue more bans. I'm number five on the list of people with the most posts. Yet if you read my comments, you'll realize that I rarely if ever say anything useful. We need more bans. Or you'll be stuck reading my stupid posts.

 

[keangkong]

…. Did I call that one or what? Not engaging on the substance, just saying it’s bias that came to exist for no apparent reason.

The only reason people attack Cain is anti-Chinese xenophobia. Hopefully Cain won't leave us. This forum's misogyny drove Tracy away. Hopefully something similar won't happen with Cain. I like the special additives Cain provides.

 

[keangkong]

The only reason people attack Cain is anti-Chinese xenophobia. Hopefully Cain won't leave us. This forum's misogyny drove Tracy away. Hopefully something similar won't happen with Cain. I like the special additives Cain provides.

Semi-seriously, I don't think Cain produces a bad product from what I've read; I never ordered from him myself. He's under a great deal of scrutiny. Any of the vendors that people here buy a lot from is probably going to give you a reasonably good product and will likely arrive. Some of Cain's behavior and answers to questions do merit, in my opinion, the criticism. I also notice many smart folks (in this gorilla's estimation, by reading their posts) in this forum, order from Cain.

 

[catdog]

Semi-seriously, I don't think Cain produces a bad product from what I've read; I never ordered from him myself. He's under a great deal of scrutiny. Any of the vendors that people here buy a lot from is probably going to give you a reasonably good product and will likely arrive. Some of Cain's behavior and answers to questions do merit, in my opinion, the criticism. I also notice many smart folks (in this gorilla's estimation, by reading their posts) in this forum, order from Cain.

Scrutiny is a beautiful thing in the grey market. It keeps these vendors in line. They have no vested interest in us other than our wallets, so I think weighing heavy on these vendors is great. I love meso for that reason.

 

[nonyabizznez]

The only reason people attack Cain is anti-Chinese xenophobia. Hopefully Cain won't leave us. This forum's misogyny drove Tracy away. Hopefully something similar won't happen with Cain. I like the special additives Cain provides.

Misogyny = Tracy!

 

[Yikesmillenial]

Ended up going Nexaph. SRY doesn't have domestic stock yet, QSC no clarification response about current domestic reta, then considered china shipped options but with shipping charge they are the same $ per mg as Nexa.

How was your experience with the product from Nexaph? I just pulled the trigger on my first purchase ever with them and doing a group testing of the batch when it comes through. Just curious to hear your feedback. There’s so much info overload it’s overwhelming and different experiences for all vendors from everyone. Appreciate the input!

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

Thanks for the background. This stuff tends to get brigaded away quickly so I never got the whole story. Whenever something like this is posted it’s usually rapidly followed by a bunch of shill “I don’t care if they lie I just care about quality” that makes it seem like anything negative was just some personal issue and then shoves it down into the memory hole.

it feels like you are being extra critical of this vender. they all have issues and lie a bit.

you pretty much dislike them all. I'd be curious who you do use.?

 

[SassyPants]

He also said he owns a factory in china that makes Covid vaccines. Sooooo……

Make it stoppp… lol

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

it feels like you are being extra critical of this vender. they all have issues and lie a bit.

you pretty much dislike them all. I'd be curious who you do use?

I’m equally hard on any vendor that acts in this manner, I just can’t think of any who leaned so hard into it.

Most recently I’d been ordering from qsc because they set expectations and then delivered on them, the complaints were all people who expected service that was never promised and inconsistent with a track record spanning years. It was the opposite of lies — they were extraordinarily forthcoming about what you should expect and were unyielding if you wanted something else.

Right now if desperate I would suck it up and order from PGB, a vendor I’ve had plenty of tension with and who might not even sell to me if I tried because of that.

Really though, if qsc comes back and demonstrates nothing has changed, I’d keep ordering from them. If not, I probably won’t order anything from anyone until someone builds up a good track record. That’ll take a good 6 months.

 

[GtownBrown]

Just to add some details to the broader conversation about Cain/Nexaph:

I bought a kit of t30 from him last Sunday and it shipped next day and was at my door Wednesday. I looked at the return address, and it was in Wyoming. My credit card was charged, however, by a company in Hong Kong. I also had to pay a $5 foreign currency conversion fee. I included the vendor info in this screenshot. So, “pretending to be Chinese?” Hmmm. Is a finisher or just a reseller? Deb of Deb’s Peptalk posted this weekend that Nexaph buys raws from China and finishes them here in the US.