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[raw_oyster_eater]

he's doing preorders now and has been recently. where is he sourcing it?

 

[Fisherman2356]

also, where does he source his peptides from? Does he disclose this??? He said that he lyophilizes his own shit in the US but then also said it’s done in china? So what is it?

I get everyone's concern but as I've said before until someone finds out that his product is fake, or not what it is supposed to be the rest doesn't matter much. Clearly, from what you guys know of him he is not a trustworthy dude, but is he selling peptides, or is he selling shit? LOL I've bought 3-4 times from him (very easy process, and reasonable prices, not the cheapest), but I have no way of knowing that the product I got is good or bad so I would love to know if any of you guys have tested his product independently? I hear a lot of chatter about what he said one time or another, but not much in terms of his product quality and that is what I'd be very interested in knowing.

 

[chmuse]

I get everyone's concern but as I've said before until someone finds out that his product is fake, or not what it is supposed to be the rest doesn't matter much. Clearly, from what you guys know of him he is not a trustworthy dude, but is he selling peptides, or is he selling shit? LOL I've bought 3-4 times from him (very easy process, and reasonable prices, not the cheapest), but I have no way of knowing that the product I got is good or bad so I would love to know if any of you guys have tested his product independently? I hear a lot of chatter about what he said one time or another, but not much in terms of his product quality and that is what I'd be very interested in knowing.

There's an entire second telegram where people test his peptides. They send it to jano and he foots the bill.

Unless people are now questioning jano, I find that reasonable.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I get everyone's concern but as I've said before until someone finds out that his product is fake, or not what it is supposed to be the rest doesn't matter much. Clearly, from what you guys know of him he is not a trustworthy dude, but is he selling peptides, or is he selling shit? LOL I've bought 3-4 times from him (very easy process, and reasonable prices, not the cheapest), but I have no way of knowing that the product I got is good or bad so I would love to know if any of you guys have tested his product independently? I hear a lot of chatter about what he said one time or another, but not much in terms of his product quality and that is what I'd be very interested in knowing.

Nah there are other issues — repeated bad tests, using atypical fillers for example; and incidentally WTF is up with those amber vials — but honestly the topic is so damn tired that I’m not going to get into it all over again.

 

[Fisherman2356]

Nah there are other issues — repeated bad tests, using atypical fillers for example; and incidentally WTF is up with those amber vials — but honestly the topic is so damn tired that I’m not going to get into it all over again.

Got it. New to this peptide thing, so I'm not very well versed but this "using atypical fillers" would be very concerning. Read elsewhere people getting sick from fillers.

 

[chmuse]

Nah there are other issues — repeated bad tests, using atypical fillers for example; and incidentally WTF is up with those amber vials — but honestly the topic is so damn tired that I’m not going to get into it all over again.

I feel like we're all just tired of arguing about it at this point. It's been discussed to death, use the search bar and your brain and form your own opinion.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

using atypical fillers jives with him doing his own product. no?

everything can't be a lie?

bad tests? worse than no peptide detected? its bad all over.

 

[Fisherman2356]

There's an entire second telegram where people test his peptides. They send it to jano and he foots the bill.

Unless people are now questioning jano, I find that reasonable.

Thanks for this info.

 

[keangkong]

First I was Secretly Stairmaster, can I be Secretly Cain next?

Absolutely. I know you're Tracy too.

 

[chmuse]

Absolutely. I know you're Tracy too.

Tracy isn't a taken username. I did consider it, but I didn't want Bee to ban me. He can see our IP and I'm too lazy to use a VPN

 

[keangkong]

Absolutely. I know you're Tracy too.

chmuse--What gave me away?

 

[chmuse]

chmuse--What gave me away?

Only a hottie like Tracy could get away with pretending to look like a gorilla

 

[hexagonal]

Nah there are other issues — repeated bad tests, using atypical fillers for example; and incidentally WTF is up with those amber vials — but honestly the topic is so damn tired that I’m not going to get into it all over again.

There are plenty of things to talk about with Nexaph but I think the amber vials thing isn't particularly interesting - my compounded tirz came in amber vials too. If you filter anyway, you can put it in whatever vial you want.

 

[hexagonal]

using atypical fillers jives with him doing his own product. no?

everything can't be a lie?

bad tests? worse than no peptide detected? its bad all over.

If he's doing large enough orders from someone I'm sure he could request whatever filler he wanted.

 

[keangkong]

@exploitedworkerbee

To preface, I’ve never ordered from this Nexaph guy and have just been doing my own due diligence in learning about his work ethics and what not.

While I agree that ethically there is some fucked up shit about his past and maybe somewhat present (anecdotally seems like he’s gotten better with that but who truly knows). Wouldn’t you say it’s too far to thread ban him? I would think it’s more reasonable for him to get shit on by reputable people like you but allow him to continue to have a voice and allow the people to decide for themselves whether ethics is something they care about.

Just my logic.

Exploitedworkerbee made a number of serious allegations of lying by Cain. Then Cain responded with a sarcastic post not denying the allegations. It seems a thread ban is reasonable. This forum ought to issue more bans. I'm number five on the list of people with the most posts. Yet if you read my comments, you'll realize that I rarely if ever say anything useful. We need more bans. Or you'll be stuck reading my stupid posts.

 

[keangkong]

…. Did I call that one or what? Not engaging on the substance, just saying it’s bias that came to exist for no apparent reason.

The only reason people attack Cain is anti-Chinese xenophobia. Hopefully Cain won't leave us. This forum's misogyny drove Tracy away. Hopefully something similar won't happen with Cain. I like the special additives Cain provides.

 

[keangkong]

The only reason people attack Cain is anti-Chinese xenophobia. Hopefully Cain won't leave us. This forum's misogyny drove Tracy away. Hopefully something similar won't happen with Cain. I like the special additives Cain provides.

Semi-seriously, I don't think Cain produces a bad product from what I've read; I never ordered from him myself. He's under a great deal of scrutiny. Any of the vendors that people here buy a lot from is probably going to give you a reasonably good product and will likely arrive. Some of Cain's behavior and answers to questions do merit, in my opinion, the criticism. I also notice many smart folks (in this gorilla's estimation, by reading their posts) in this forum, order from Cain.

 

[catdog]

Semi-seriously, I don't think Cain produces a bad product from what I've read; I never ordered from him myself. He's under a great deal of scrutiny. Any of the vendors that people here buy a lot from is probably going to give you a reasonably good product and will likely arrive. Some of Cain's behavior and answers to questions do merit, in my opinion, the criticism. I also notice many smart folks (in this gorilla's estimation, by reading their posts) in this forum, order from Cain.

Scrutiny is a beautiful thing in the grey market. It keeps these vendors in line. They have no vested interest in us other than our wallets, so I think weighing heavy on these vendors is great. I love meso for that reason.

 

[nonyabizznez]

The only reason people attack Cain is anti-Chinese xenophobia. Hopefully Cain won't leave us. This forum's misogyny drove Tracy away. Hopefully something similar won't happen with Cain. I like the special additives Cain provides.

Misogyny = Tracy!

 

[DevynL90]

I don’t know the details, just that there was a test that he paid for that came back below the guaranteed purity and he said he wouldn’t honor that because it was performed at trustpointe even though he funded it. No idea what came of it, but the radio silence on the matter leads me to believe that “he straightened it up” might not be the right assumption.

i was in this T30 test group (purple caps). cain ended up paying for another test to go out to jano where it tested above the 99% purity threshold. no reships given.

reason was that apparently in some super obscure TG comment somewhere cain once mentioned that jano was the true lab test requirement. this was a surprise to everyone, as if anyone knew this we wouldn't have put a 25-30 person group test with trustpointe together if we knew the results would be null and void. adding to the confusion was that cain himself was using trustpointe (on this very batch too!) as his 1st party vendor COA's which he was more than happy to use and then market/sell to customers.

the product is fine imo. i've used it already. the jano test weeks later put most at ease about rapid degradation issues (which has been something cain has struggled with in particular). but how we got to that point was quite annoying. i'm assuming he's learned from that and is more clear about his re-ship policy now.

i won't use cain again but that's more due to his other issues which i won't rehash here and now.