USA Domestic Source / Shipping

[Yikesmillenial]

Ended up going Nexaph. SRY doesn't have domestic stock yet, QSC no clarification response about current domestic reta, then considered china shipped options but with shipping charge they are the same $ per mg as Nexa.

How was your experience with the product from Nexaph? I just pulled the trigger on my first purchase ever with them and doing a group testing of the batch when it comes through. Just curious to hear your feedback. There’s so much info overload it’s overwhelming and different experiences for all vendors from everyone. Appreciate the input!

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

i was in this T30 test group (purple caps). cain ended up paying for another test to go out to jano where it tested above the 99% purity threshold. no reships given.

reason was that apparently in some super obscure TG comment somewhere cain once mentioned that jano was the true lab test requirement. this was a surprise to everyone, as if anyone knew this we wouldn't have put a 25-30 person group test with trustpointe together if we knew the results would be null and void. adding to the confusion was that cain himself was using trustpointe (on this very batch too!) as his 1st party vendor COA's which he was more than happy to use and then market/sell to customers.

the product is fine imo. i've used it already. the jano test weeks later put most at ease about rapid degradation issues (which has been something cain has struggled with in particular). but how we got to that point was quite annoying. i'm assuming he's learned from that and is more clear about his re-ship policy now.

i won't use cain again but that's more due to his other issues which i won't rehash here and now.

Thanks for the background. This stuff tends to get brigaded away quickly so I never got the whole story. Whenever something like this is posted it’s usually rapidly followed by a bunch of shill “I don’t care if they lie I just care about quality” that makes it seem like anything negative was just some personal issue and then shoves it down into the memory hole.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

Thanks for the background. This stuff tends to get brigaded away quickly so I never got the whole story. Whenever something like this is posted it’s usually rapidly followed by a bunch of shill “I don’t care if they lie I just care about quality” that makes it seem like anything negative was just some personal issue and then shoves it down into the memory hole.

it feels like you are being extra critical of this vender. they all have issues and lie a bit.

you pretty much dislike them all. I'd be curious who you do use.?

 

[SassyPants]

He also said he owns a factory in china that makes Covid vaccines. Sooooo……

Make it stoppp… lol

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

it feels like you are being extra critical of this vender. they all have issues and lie a bit.

you pretty much dislike them all. I'd be curious who you do use?

I’m equally hard on any vendor that acts in this manner, I just can’t think of any who leaned so hard into it.

Most recently I’d been ordering from qsc because they set expectations and then delivered on them, the complaints were all people who expected service that was never promised and inconsistent with a track record spanning years. It was the opposite of lies — they were extraordinarily forthcoming about what you should expect and were unyielding if you wanted something else.

Right now if desperate I would suck it up and order from PGB, a vendor I’ve had plenty of tension with and who might not even sell to me if I tried because of that.

Really though, if qsc comes back and demonstrates nothing has changed, I’d keep ordering from them. If not, I probably won’t order anything from anyone until someone builds up a good track record. That’ll take a good 6 months.

 

[GtownBrown]

Just to add some details to the broader conversation about Cain/Nexaph:

I bought a kit of t30 from him last Sunday and it shipped next day and was at my door Wednesday. I looked at the return address, and it was in Wyoming. My credit card was charged, however, by a company in Hong Kong. I also had to pay a $5 foreign currency conversion fee. I included the vendor info in this screenshot. So, “pretending to be Chinese?” Hmmm. Is a finisher or just a reseller? Deb of Deb’s Peptalk posted this weekend that Nexaph buys raws from China and finishes them here in the US.

 

[chmuse]

Just to add some details to the broader conversation about Cain/Nexaph:

I bought a kit of t30 from him last Sunday and it shipped next day and was at my door Wednesday. I looked at the return address, and it was in Wyoming. My credit card was charged, however, by a company in Hong Kong. I also had to pay a $5 foreign currency conversion fee. I included the vendor info in this screenshot. So, “pretending to be Chinese?” Hmmm. Is a finisher or just a reseller? Deb of Deb’s Peptalk posted this weekend that Nexaph buys raws from China and finishes them here in the US. View attachment 5353

My statements also read Hong Kong, but I've never been charged an extra fee by Visa- just by Nexa for using a visa.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Just to add some details to the broader conversation about Cain/Nexaph:

I bought a kit of t30 from him last Sunday and it shipped next day and was at my door Wednesday. I looked at the return address, and it was in Wyoming. My credit card was charged, however, by a company in Hong Kong. I also had to pay a $5 foreign currency conversion fee. I included the vendor info in this screenshot. So, “pretending to be Chinese?” Hmmm. Is a finisher or just a reseller? Deb of Deb’s Peptalk posted this weekend that Nexaph buys raws from China and finishes them here in the US. View attachment 5353

That doesn’t mean they’re Chinese, it just means their brand of money laundering and wire fraud goes through East Asia. Credit card companies won’t do business with peptide sellers, this is the workaround.

 

[DevynL90]

Right now if desperate I would suck it up and order from PGB, a vendor I’ve had plenty of tension with and who might not even sell to me if I tried because of that.

let's hear the tea on this one! as i don't think i'm alone in feeling like they're the only reliable vendor left worth dealing with anymore.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

let's hear the tea on this one! as i don't think i'm alone in feeling like they're the only reliable vendor left worth dealing with anymore.

Boils down to me not loving their transition from fun group of folks banding together to meet an MOQ to highly profitable dropshipping/marketing arm of XCE while pitching themselves as community servants. Making money is fine but manipulating people to do so is not. This was at a time when it was basically verboten to speak ill of them (see said community servant narrative), or even openly acknowledge that jlo was making a boatload. They basically pretended it was still the moq thing and he just got some fee on the back end that somehow meant it didn’t figure into the price everyone paid (obv bullshit). My criticisms didn’t go over well.

But for the most part quality has been more consistent than others so it’s probably the safest reasonably priced option. And they have an established track record so you know what to expect.

 

[GtownBrown]

My statements also read Hong Kong, but I've never been charged an extra fee by Visa- just by Nexa for using a visa.

I got charged both. The transaction fee from the bank was a surprise.

 

[chmuse]

I got charged both. The transaction fee from the bank was a surprise.

I just double checked my statements. I wonder what the difference is?

 

[ZeroPoint222]

Just to add some details to the broader conversation about Cain/Nexaph:

I bought a kit of t30 from him last Sunday and it shipped next day and was at my door Wednesday. I looked at the return address, and it was in Wyoming. My credit card was charged, however, by a company in Hong Kong. I also had to pay a $5 foreign currency conversion fee. I included the vendor info in this screenshot. So, “pretending to be Chinese?” Hmmm. Is a finisher or just a reseller? Deb of Deb’s Peptalk posted this weekend that Nexaph buys raws from China and finishes them here in the US. View attachment 5353

Hey @GtownBrown thank you for sharing about your experience with this extra charge.

I decided to give Nexaph a chance this last week, and I paid with a Visa Card for my order.

This morning I got a transaction alert for "ATM/Debit Non-(Bank Name) Fee International Transaction Fee" and it spooked me at first. But then, I remembered some posts from this thread...

It seems like a normal thing to get the extra charge when using that card payment method. Glad to be aware of this now.

 

[rschneida]

He also said he owns a factory in china that makes Covid vaccines. Sooooo……

Where and when did he say that?

 

[chmuse]

Where and when did he say that?

I believe it was on The Forum That Shall Not Be Named (per their rules)

 

[rschneida]

I believe it was on The Forum That Shall Not Be Named (per their rules)

Lol. Ok, I guess I'm not on this enough to know what that is.

 

[ZeroPoint222]

Where and when did he say that?

Here is a post from the Nexaph thread on MESO-Rx that refers to the Covid vaccine claims... Seems to show a screenshot from some relevant communications.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/introducing-spc-snp-nexaph-com-premium-usa-domestic-peptides-at-unbeatable-prices.134426803/post-3341326

Here is a screenshot of the image for those unable to view it at MESO-Rx.

 

[rschneida]

Thanks. That does help shed some light on the background. The COVD vaccine production comment is the most odd out of all of it for me. So a legitimate U.S. lab making legitimate COVID vaccines, is now making grey market peptides? Or, were they making grey market COVID vaccines? Plenty questions to be asked about that.

My perspective on all this, keep in mind that I am late to all this and have no dog in this hunt, might be bit different than most because I run multiple companies that are public facing. I know first hand how easy it is to be tried in the court of public opinion by people that 1) have no firsthand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings and/or 2) just like to tear people and businesses down behind a keyboard because they can. Personally, not until I hear someone's firsthand account of whatever the issue is, will I start to put some credibility behind it. Then, there is always two (maybe more) sides to a story. I could care less if Nexaph closes tomorrow because I don't buy my stuff from him. This all interests me from a business perspective because I deal with it in a retail business more often than I like. It's clear he may have made some questionable decisions early on. Did he learn from them? Did any posts come out from the people that he may have wronged with details? Just curious. I don't know any of that but I do know he's got a good thing going on now.

I think what adds to the strangeness of all this it that all of this is happening in a grey market. Some of the comments I read across all these sites are from the perspective that things should happen just like going to Walmart or buying things off Amazon. I think that is not proper perspective one should have venturing into these waters. So, people get easily offended and then go off when something happens they don't like. I wonder if that same energy was put into trying to resolve the problem directly? If it was, and they were mistreated? If yes, by all means, these are the places to warn people.

The anonymity of being behind a keyboard really emboldens some people. For some, it is their only sense of identity. They would probably not be the types to speak up face-to-face. It's hard to tell what the real story is here but it is interesting to hear about it.