USA Domestic Source / Shipping

Ended up going Nexaph. SRY doesn't have domestic stock yet, QSC no clarification response about current domestic reta, then considered china shipped options but with shipping charge they are the same $ per mg as Nexa.
How was your experience with the product from Nexaph? I just pulled the trigger on my first purchase ever with them and doing a group testing of the batch when it comes through. Just curious to hear your feedback. There’s so much info overload it’s overwhelming and different experiences for all vendors from everyone. Appreciate the input!
 
i was in this T30 test group (purple caps). cain ended up paying for another test to go out to jano where it tested above the 99% purity threshold. no reships given.

reason was that apparently in some super obscure TG comment somewhere cain once mentioned that jano was the true lab test requirement. this was a surprise to everyone, as if anyone knew this we wouldn't have put a 25-30 person group test with trustpointe together if we knew the results would be null and void. adding to the confusion was that cain himself was using trustpointe (on this very batch too!) as his 1st party vendor COA's which he was more than happy to use and then market/sell to customers.

the product is fine imo. i've used it already. the jano test weeks later put most at ease about rapid degradation issues (which has been something cain has struggled with in particular). but how we got to that point was quite annoying. i'm assuming he's learned from that and is more clear about his re-ship policy now.

i won't use cain again but that's more due to his other issues which i won't rehash here and now.
Thanks for the background. This stuff tends to get brigaded away quickly so I never got the whole story. Whenever something like this is posted it’s usually rapidly followed by a bunch of shill “I don’t care if they lie I just care about quality” that makes it seem like anything negative was just some personal issue and then shoves it down into the memory hole.
 
Thanks for the background. This stuff tends to get brigaded away quickly so I never got the whole story. Whenever something like this is posted it’s usually rapidly followed by a bunch of shill “I don’t care if they lie I just care about quality” that makes it seem like anything negative was just some personal issue and then shoves it down into the memory hole.
it feels like you are being extra critical of this vender. they all have issues and lie a bit.

you pretty much dislike them all. I'd be curious who you do use.?
 
it feels like you are being extra critical of this vender. they all have issues and lie a bit.

you pretty much dislike them all. I'd be curious who you do use?
I’m equally hard on any vendor that acts in this manner, I just can’t think of any who leaned so hard into it.

Most recently I’d been ordering from qsc because they set expectations and then delivered on them, the complaints were all people who expected service that was never promised and inconsistent with a track record spanning years. It was the opposite of lies — they were extraordinarily forthcoming about what you should expect and were unyielding if you wanted something else.

Right now if desperate I would suck it up and order from PGB, a vendor I’ve had plenty of tension with and who might not even sell to me if I tried because of that.

Really though, if qsc comes back and demonstrates nothing has changed, I’d keep ordering from them. If not, I probably won’t order anything from anyone until someone builds up a good track record. That’ll take a good 6 months.
 
Just to add some details to the broader conversation about Cain/Nexaph:

I bought a kit of t30 from him last Sunday and it shipped next day and was at my door Wednesday. I looked at the return address, and it was in Wyoming. My credit card was charged, however, by a company in Hong Kong. I also had to pay a $5 foreign currency conversion fee. I included the vendor info in this screenshot. So, “pretending to be Chinese?” Hmmm. Is a finisher or just a reseller? Deb of Deb’s Peptalk posted this weekend that Nexaph buys raws from China and finishes them here in the US.
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Just to add some details to the broader conversation about Cain/Nexaph:

I bought a kit of t30 from him last Sunday and it shipped next day and was at my door Wednesday. I looked at the return address, and it was in Wyoming. My credit card was charged, however, by a company in Hong Kong. I also had to pay a $5 foreign currency conversion fee. I included the vendor info in this screenshot. So, “pretending to be Chinese?” Hmmm. Is a finisher or just a reseller? Deb of Deb’s Peptalk posted this weekend that Nexaph buys raws from China and finishes them here in the US. View attachment 5353
My statements also read Hong Kong, but I've never been charged an extra fee by Visa- just by Nexa for using a visa.
 
Just to add some details to the broader conversation about Cain/Nexaph:

I bought a kit of t30 from him last Sunday and it shipped next day and was at my door Wednesday. I looked at the return address, and it was in Wyoming. My credit card was charged, however, by a company in Hong Kong. I also had to pay a $5 foreign currency conversion fee. I included the vendor info in this screenshot. So, “pretending to be Chinese?” Hmmm. Is a finisher or just a reseller? Deb of Deb’s Peptalk posted this weekend that Nexaph buys raws from China and finishes them here in the US. View attachment 5353
That doesn’t mean they’re Chinese, it just means their brand of money laundering and wire fraud goes through East Asia. Credit card companies won’t do business with peptide sellers, this is the workaround.
 
Right now if desperate I would suck it up and order from PGB, a vendor I’ve had plenty of tension with and who might not even sell to me if I tried because of that.
let's hear the tea on this one! as i don't think i'm alone in feeling like they're the only reliable vendor left worth dealing with anymore.
 
let's hear the tea on this one! as i don't think i'm alone in feeling like they're the only reliable vendor left worth dealing with anymore.
Boils down to me not loving their transition from fun group of folks banding together to meet an MOQ to highly profitable dropshipping/marketing arm of XCE while pitching themselves as community servants. Making money is fine but manipulating people to do so is not. This was at a time when it was basically verboten to speak ill of them (see said community servant narrative), or even openly acknowledge that jlo was making a boatload. They basically pretended it was still the moq thing and he just got some fee on the back end that somehow meant it didn’t figure into the price everyone paid (obv bullshit). My criticisms didn’t go over well.

But for the most part quality has been more consistent than others so it’s probably the safest reasonably priced option. And they have an established track record so you know what to expect.
 
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