'Weight-loss treatment is on the verge of a dramatic shift – again'

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The article talks about the affordability and convenience of pill-form GLP-1s and about Retatrutide (Triple G).
 
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Honestly, what strikes me most about these GLP‑1 weight‑loss drugs is how much they’re changing the way we think about health. For years, people were told that weight was just about willpower, and now we’re finally acknowledging that biology plays a huge role. That part feels like real progress.
At the same time, it’s hard to ignore the bigger picture. These medications work, but they’re expensive, hard to access, and not everyone’s insurance covers them. It shouldn’t be that only some people get access to treatments that can genuinely improve their health. If we’re going to treat obesity like the chronic condition it is, then the system around it needs to catch up too.
 
All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.
 
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All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.
I actually think it's possible that if more people get access to glp drugs, food companies may change up their offerings somewhat to accommodate the changing customers. Idk how well trying to "hold companies accountable" would shake out in the real world. I do however agree that they share some blame for poor health of the general population, I just know in this country money talks and food companies follow it.
 
All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.
Or we could just stop buying everything ready-to-eat and go for ingredients to make real food ourselves. It won't solve everything that's wrong but it will help. If there's no market....
 
Or we could just stop buying everything ready-to-eat and go for ingredients to make real food ourselves. It won't solve everything that's wrong but it will help. If there's no market....
Agreed, but there are times people(myself included) just don’t have time to cook a meal from scratch with fresh ingredients and I’d love a wider variety of healthier options from restaurants.
 
‘ Consumer discretionary’ sector of the stock market shows how reliable profit and dividends are made by exploiting our compulsive junk consumptions. Wall Street relies on the consumers to bail it out when indexes plunge. Addictive consumables generate big profits for junk food/beverages, boozes, etc. It’s not our fault that we’re so darn fat. Corporate laboratories design irresistibility into their products.
 
Jesse Welles. “Fat”
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeT9qo2rTFM

The song is a piece of satirical social commentary that addresses the obesity crisis, food industry marketing, and personal accountability.
Key Aspects of the Song:
  • Lyrics & Themes: The song features the lyrics, "Well, it's your own damn fault you're so damn fat," and makes references to "grinding critters and chemicals up in the factory".
  • Satire: It uses dark humor to criticize how corporations and society often shift responsibility for health issues onto the individual.
  • Style: It is in a folk/country style, often featured on TikTok where Welles shares his original music. Welles frequently explores harsh societal truths in his music
 
All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.
The food companies will adjust temporarily (smaller portions for example) but think about this.

Food companies finding a way to neutralize GLP1s. Read about this about a year ago. They are evil enough to find a way and then do it.

We live in a time where companies have no intention of doing the right thing. It is sad.
 
Has anyone read the comment section on the link? So many have no clue how much GLPs have helped people. Comments such as just put the fork down. So many ignorant people have no idea...

Its so nice to have this forum & be able to discuss without so much judgement!!
 
Has anyone read the comment section on the link? So many have no clue how much GLPs have helped people. Comments such as just put the fork down. So many ignorant people have no idea...

Its so nice to have this forum & be able to discuss without so much judgement!!
It's easier to blame people as if they are piggy slobs than to understand the complexity of bariatric medicine. It's also the American way through the lens of Rugged Individualism philosophy upon which the US was built. This posture holds true today, 250 years later.
 
It's easier to blame people as if they are piggy slobs than to understand the complexity of bariatric medicine. It's also the American way through the lens of Rugged Individualism philosophy upon which the US was built. This posture holds true today, 250 years later.
Until someone has a problem, I think many just assume & judge.

Everyone's story is different. I don't judge anyone, it all stinks & feel for all that have this. I grew up with very weight centered parents & that really mattered to them. Younger I was never really overweight but had dieted since young. Hearing things from your father "Why aren't you as skinny as her". I'm sure I ruined my metabolism. Since my mid 20s I could no longer loose weight.

For Yearsss now dieting & exercise (2-3 classes a day 5 days a week + walking, sauna, gluten free, no soda, only drinking water, not eating fast food, no fried food, tracking closely average 900-1,000 cal a day, etc). Nothing I could do would allow me to lose weight. Dieting (tried every one under the sun & never stopped). Even no appetite, barely eating could not lose. Drs etc no answers. Not even on Phentermine, etc. I'm very new (about 5 weeks), but this is the 1st time ever that I lost 8lbs so far.
 
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Until someone has a problem, I think many just assume & judge.

Everyone's story is different. I don't judge anyone, it all stinks & feel for all that have this. I grew up with very weight centered parents & that really mattered to them. Younger I was never really overweight but had dieted since young. Hearing things from your father "Why aren't you as skinny as her". I'm sure I ruined my metabolism. Since my mid 20s I could no longer loose weight.

For Yearsss now dieting & exercise (2-3 classes a day 5 days a week + walking, sauna, gluten free, no soda, only drinking water, not eating fast food, no fried food, tracking closely average 900-1,000 cal a day, etc). Nothing I could do would allow me to lose weight. Dieting (tried every one under the sun & never stopped). Even no appetite, barely eating could not lose. Drs etc no answers. Not even on Phentermine, etc. I'm very new (about 5 weeks), but this is the 1st time ever that I lost 8lbs so far.
We were similarly raised. I hear you and I see you. I celebrate your 8 pounds!! I'm glad you're here.
 
All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.
I'm a past WW and during that phase of my life I read a lot about food including what makes us keep eating & eating. The big processed food makers paid for the scientific research and used it in the manufacturing of their highly processed foods that stimulate us to eat & eat. We immediately started to put on more weight. There are other factors: in the 80's a lot of subsidized corn growing put cheap corn starch on The market. Corn starch is easily converted to glucose and is relatively cheap. Most highly processed foods contain cheap corn biproducts: corn syrup, corn starch, & corn oil. The bottom line is that it would be very difficult to enact laws that would eliminate all these processed foods and I'm not sure I want government to be that intrusive. For now, I think our best answer is cheap peptides from China.
 
Or we could just stop buying everything ready-to-eat and go for ingredients to make real food ourselves. It won't solve everything that's wrong but it will help. If there's no market....
"If there's no market..." that's it right there.

two words: food deserts. where I live I'm spoiled for choice, go 15-20 miles north, south, east, or west, and you can maybe find a corner store. so no, "we" can't just stop buying ready-to-eat. it doesn't spoil as easily as fruits & veg, it's available in places more fresh foods aren't.

you'll for damn sure find a McDonalds, a chik-fil-a, a whatever.

not everyone has transportation to get to the store even if they do exist. and believe you me, that was on so much purpose. there's a reason some public transportation only goes so far in metropolitan areas.

thankful that's not an issue for you or for me, but it's a reality for a lot of urban and rural folks.
 
You're absolutely right. My comment was tone deaf. Food deserts are very real.
good-hearted and hopeful and forward looking. I appreciate that, but the monsters that like to see folks suffer want to keep folks in that mindset. keep folks thinking it's as easy as "just stop buying junk!"
 
good-hearted and hopeful and forward looking. I appreciate that, but the monsters that like to see folks suffer want to keep folks in that mindset. keep folks thinking it's as easy as "just stop buying junk!"
Yeah, definitely did not think about the population who enjoys the oppression of others.

The price difference between whole foods (not the grocery store!) and empty over-processed foods is staggering. It doesn't help that SNAP allowance is meager. The system is gamed to keep people where they are.
 
All of this is great progress. I'm a big fan of GLP-1s and hope to see wider adoption. But it feels like we're patching a leak without fixing the pipe. The food that's out there is a huge driver of this epidemic and until we start holding big food companies accountable for what they're putting out, we're just going to keep needing more and better medications to cope with it. I hope the momentum around these drugs eventually pushes the conversation toward fixing the actual source of the problem, not just managing the result of it.

Totally agree that our obeseogenic environment and low food quality plays is a large part in fostering the obesity epidemic, but I'm not sure if it's the actual source of the problem for a large group of people.

At least for me (and I believe many others), glp-1s treat an underlying metabolic condition affecting my mind-gut signaling system. I still live in this world that encourages overeating and physical inactivity, but my body weight has normalized and I've lost 110 pounds. And studies have shown that if I keep taking the medication I can anticipate staying at this reduced weight for a durable period of time. I think that they found the "spiget" to the water pipe. The holy grail would be gene therapy that actually "cures" the signaling issue, not just treat it.
 
Honestly, what strikes me most about these GLP‑1 weight‑loss drugs is how much they’re changing the way we think about health. For years, people were told that weight was just about willpower, and now we’re finally acknowledging that biology plays a huge role. That part feels like real progress.
At the same time, it’s hard to ignore the bigger picture. These medications work, but they’re expensive, hard to access, and not everyone’s insurance covers them. It shouldn’t be that only some people get access to treatments that can genuinely improve their health. If we’re going to treat obesity like the chronic condition it is, then the system around it needs to catch up too.

I think what most are missing from the bigger picture is BigFood’s role in food addiction.

It’s not all genetic predisposition to obesity. Our food is literally different and addicting.
 
The trouble I have is I eat, I am then full, but I still want to eat even though I am extremely full and I have no idea why?
This is normal, we are conditioned to crave food in my opinion. Probably goes back to our survival I mechanisms. our body's crave particular types of food. When it's chillingly cold we may crave a hearty meal or soup . If electrolytes are low then perhaps a salty meal or treat. Out of energy perhaps something with sugar.
I have been off the Reta for about 2 weeks now but thinking of going back on again just to stop the food noise and cravings.
Personally, I find Reta helps to manage what I eat . If my calories are down for the day and I prioritise protein and fibre earlier in the day, I can have a little extra at the end of the day. Especially if I'm doing even a small amount of my daily resistance exercises or ride.

For me Reta helps me decide and make decisions regarding food choices that if I'm honest with myself I've probably struggled with the last few years as work and life becomes overwhelming at times.

In terms of that last word cravings, Reta has changed me somewhat to crave a wider spectrum of foods . I now really love a love a salad, I did previously, however when dining out I'm more inclined to choose a salad over streak even though I've liken them both.
 
I think what most are missing from the bigger picture is BigFood’s role in food addiction.

It’s not all genetic predisposition to obesity. Our food is literally different and addicting.
100% it's by design for profit. The strategic marketing especially with fast food towards kids earning their first wage, that's pretty low on the ethical scale. Big food knows what they are doing to kids just as they did with cigarettes.

Over time food culture will change, hopefully for the better as research develops and healthier food that's profitable is craved.
 
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Jesse Welles. “Fat”
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeT9qo2rTFM

The song is a piece of satirical social commentary that addresses the obesity crisis, food industry marketing, and personal accountability.
Key Aspects of the Song:
  • Lyrics & Themes: The song features the lyrics, "Well, it's your own damn fault you're so damn fat," and makes references to "grinding critters and chemicals up in the factory".
  • Satire: It uses dark humor to criticize how corporations and society often shift responsibility for health issues onto the individual.
  • Style: It is in a folk/country style, often featured on TikTok where Welles shares his original music. Welles frequently explores harsh societal truths in his music
What a nice voice!!! I will add him on my social media! Thank you for the sharing !!!
 
Hey Brouette, Jesse Welles is a prolific folk song writer from Arkansas commenting on life’s contradictions and deceptions. In a recent interview, he shared that his sister had described his voice as “like burnt toast.”
 
Honestly, what strikes me most about these GLP‑1 weight‑loss drugs is how much they’re changing the way we think about health. For years, people were told that weight was just about willpower, and now we’re finally acknowledging that biology plays a huge role. That part feels like real progress.
At the same time, it’s hard to ignore the bigger picture. These medications work, but they’re expensive, hard to access, and not everyone’s insurance covers them. It shouldn’t be that only some people get access to treatments that can genuinely improve their health. If we’re going to treat obesity like the chronic condition it is, then the system around it needs to catch up too.
Well said. Obesity cost taxpayers ungodly sums of money, and little impactful change has occurred over several decades. Expanded Access to these medicines is a great prospective start. Now if we can just treat junk food advertisements with the same restrictiveness we instilled in the tobacco industry…

Watching football might not be a trigger much longer lol
 
I really wish to know whether my hashimoto and low testosterone - combined together the weight loss nightmare - came from...no one in my family has either, and I cannot help thinking that something in our food or water sources contributed to it. But I have no ways of proving it.
 

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