Well, fuck peptide test

[GimmeABreak]

Speaking of shit I don’t understand. The fucking labels? Like I need to remember what the med is and the concentration I don’t need a fancy color label with art work and shit. Who fucking cares? That one really irks me for no real reason

Me too! I am the only one that sees the labels on my vials. They need to be functional so I am not injecting the wrong stuff but come on! Are people pulling out their pep collections, in their fancy boxes, to show their friends on a Saturday night? I wonder if they put all their meds from CVS/Walgreens into custom pill bottles too?

Zip lock bags in a thermos (well multiple thermos') for long-term storage. In the plastic kits containers for anything I am currently pinning. Label includes source, COA QR, contents and date received. Simple.

 

[GimmeABreak]

I used to sell peptide boxes so can speak to this. The margins were very good and demand was enormous. That may have changed since for most of that time there were only two of us doing it and we mostly tried not to make identical stuff. Demand dramatically exceeded my capacity to meet it; I probably could have charged significantly more than what I already considered too expensive.

I stopped doing it mainly because the writing was on the wall with a ton of people all starting to sell the boxes, and it took more of my time to manage the sales and do the work than you’d think. But if you don’t have a good paying job you can certainly make more selling peptide boxes and running group buys than driving for uber or something. That is unless all the new box makers have eaten each other and driven down the prices a ton, I haven’t really tracked the market.

I always wondered what the margin profile looked like for these 3d printing businesses. When you factor in the cost of materials, wear and tear/maintenance on the printer plus the time to process/ship the order. On a $40 box (that probably takes a day to print) what they making $5?

 

[rkl123]

It's definitely not necessary but it is helpful and it does work. I've been doing some experiments with old dishwater and there is an immediate and noticeable difference in clarity and smell. Haven't had time to follow up with plate and vial tests yet though.

I don’t doubt that they work. I doubt that there is anything in the vial that needs filtering. Suppose the worst case scenario: egads the vial was exposed to the air during sealing so there’s bacteria…
-how much oxygen is in there?
-how much moisture is in there?
-how much of anything in the vial is edible to bacteria?
The answer is almost none for all of these. We then pour alcoholic water on whatever bacteria is in there. It isn’t high concentration alcohol, but there’s very little bacteria struggling to exist in the vial to begin with.

 

[Peevee]

Me too! I am the only one that sees the labels on my vials. They need to be functional so I am not injecting the wrong stuff but come on! Are people pulling out their pep collections, in their fancy boxes, to show their friends on a Saturday night? I wonder if they put all their meds from CVS/Walgreens into custom pill bottles too?

Zip lock bags in a thermos (well multiple thermos') for long-term storage. In the plastic kits containers for anything I am currently pinning. Label includes source, COA QR, contents and date received. Simple.

lol. Zip lock in the fridge with three vials and two pens is my go to. Super fancy

I have a NOT frost free freezer I use so I don’t use a thermos. I fail to see much advantage in a vacuum sealed vial with no moisture in it

 

[Peevee]

I always wondered what the margin profile looked like for these 3d printing businesses. When you factor in the cost of materials, wear and tear/maintenance on the printer plus the time to process/ship the order. On a $40 box (that probably takes a day to print) what they making $5?

Exactly my thoughts

It costs time and money to run the printer. Wear in the nozzle and extruder. The filament. Electricity

 

[Peevee]

I don’t doubt that they work. I doubt that there is anything in the vial that needs filtering. Suppose the worst case scenario: egads the vial was exposed to the air during sealing so there’s bacteria…
-how much oxygen is in there?
-how much moisture is in there?
-how much of anything in the vial is edible to bacteria?
The answer is almost none for all of these. We then pour alcoholic water on whatever bacteria is in there. It isn’t high concentration alcohol, but there’s very little bacteria struggling to exist in the vial to begin with.

My thoughts as an average moron exactly

 

[noteablequotable]

I don’t doubt that they work. I doubt that there is anything in the vial that needs filtering. Suppose the worst case scenario: egads the vial was exposed to the air during sealing so there’s bacteria…
-how much oxygen is in there?
-how much moisture is in there?
-how much of anything in the vial is edible to bacteria?
The answer is almost none for all of these. We then pour alcoholic water on whatever bacteria is in there. It isn’t high concentration alcohol, but there’s very little bacteria struggling to exist in the vial to begin with.

There have been enough sterility tests within the community to prove that many of the vials we receive are likely to be contaminated with live bacteria, yeasts, and molds. The big question is whether or not there are enough of those organisms present in a single shot to make us sick. That's not really a question we can answer without testing, and there's nothing to do about a poor result other than toss the vial or filter it. I skip the testing and just filter.

 

[Peevee]

There have been enough sterility tests within the community to prove that many of the vials we receive are likely to be contaminated with live bacteria, yeasts, and molds. The big question is whether or not there are enough of those organisms present in a single shot to make us sick. That's not really a question we can answer without testing, and there's nothing to do about a poor result other than toss the vial or filter it. I skip the testing and just filter.

My concern is the more I futz with the meds the more contamination vectors I add. Insert water. Change needle. Withdraw fresh bac. Flush filter. Change needle. Draw meds, replace filter change needle. Change syringe… too many steps for me to mess up. And I’m lazy

 

[GimmeABreak]

There have been enough sterility tests within the community to prove that many of the vials we receive are likely to be contaminated with live bacteria, yeasts, and molds. The big question is whether or not there are enough of those organisms present in a single shot to make us sick. That's not really a question we can answer without testing, and there's nothing to do about a poor result other than toss the vial or filter it. I skip the testing and just filter.

I am to the point that I filter anything that goes into a cart and any other vials that will be around for more than a couple of days.

MOTs-C 10mg vial, two shots, I don't filter.

Oasia compound T60 vial from their filthy lab that has sat in my fridge for a couple of months, filtered into a cart.

I don't generally filter PGB stuff, because they sterility test, unless I am putting into a cart (I realize my kit could still be bad but I take the risk).

 

[Revo39564]

Another naughty list addition. Did they get added yet for the filter monopoly as well?

they had like a whole 300 individual 4mm .22 filters and everyone acts like there was some massive conspiracy to corner the market. I'm sure he's made 100s of dollars on them.

To me it seemed like he started selling some individual ones after a conversation a handful of people were having on discord, so that people didn't have to spend a ton of money to buy them in bulk, but what do i know.

They aren’t hard to find. I buy mine from newstar via Alibaba for like $67 for a 100 filters… 37 dollar for the filters the rest shipping

 

[beefsteak]

I hate how filters look like small condoms.

 

[adria37]

<--------- doesn't own a printer

 

[Peevee]

I think it’s funny how fired up some folks are over a $1.60 filter

 

[noteablequotable]

I think it’s funny how fired up some folks are over a $1.60 filter

Lol. You say that but $1.60 is actually highway robbery. I got mine for about $0.50 a piece.

 

[Peevee]

Lol. You say that but $1.60 is actually highway robbery. I got mine for about $0.50 a piece.

It’s kinda like what I tell my spouse at Costco. At some point it’s not worth the space to store some things bought in bulk.

 

[FreeSpectator8]

Isn't peptide test just a middleman anyway? They just take orders for another lab that actually does the testing, but you can literally just go to the lab anyway.

Or so I heard

 

[FreeSpectator8]

TrustPointe Analytics is supposedly the actual lab behind peptide test.

 

[GimmeABreak]

TrustPointe Analytics is supposedly the actual lab behind peptide test.

Fact

 

[FreeSpectator8]

Fact

Good to know.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Isn't peptide test just a middleman anyway? They just take orders for another lab that actually does the testing, but you can literally just go to the lab anyway.

Or so I heard

Peptide test is a middleman but he has an exclusivity contract with the lab that prevents them from dealing with individuals, as well as some larger customers. You can’t just go to the lab, peptest needs to take his taste.