What happened to the "Someone Told You To Go Grey..." thread?

Maybe @chmuse now...
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You guys can absolutely feel free to make something similar and I'm sure Bee would pin it for you. I asked him to please remove it for me for personal reasons and he obliged.
Don't worry, I know too well how it feels like
 
Weren't you one of the people that new guy tagged in DM asking a whole group of us for our sources?
I have been, and there's another new guy admonishing me for trying to protect the site.

Too many servers and vendors have been nuked or shut down in the past couple of weeks. It's because of things like not safeguarding these things from some people. When I started this adventure, I made a few mistakes even before I started contributing, but even when I was a foolish kid doing street crap I knew to guard my sources of anything until I felt comfortable with the person receiving that info. You can't just tell just anyone where you get what you have, or else you risk losing it for yourself and others who may rely on it.

I hope this is the last time I write this, but it won't be...
 
I have a training to do today, it is not medically related, and will not put anyone's health at risk, but I will do it with the person until they are able to do it themselves. I am paid for this service and they will have to learn. I will not do it for them, they will fumble, they will make mistakes, but they will learn.

There is a value to letting someone "figure it out".

It is such a fine line here and much can go wrong for new people who do not take learning seriously.
If you cannot stand up on skis, is it appropriate to teach you how to get on a lift?
If the expectation is that by not compelling someone to learn, even if done with sarcasm or the occasional snide remark, are we actually doing a disservice and potentially enabling them to make mistakes?

Whatever your opinions on these things; is judging others for their actions not the same thing?

If I say you are a jerk for being sarcastic, could I have not kept my mouth shut too?

All of these things aside, from a content perspective, does the community benefit form 100 posts asking the same very basic question in a forum designed for, at minimum, intermediate skill level?

There are many philosophical and ethical questions, and I love to see people trying to improve their lives, and I was a noob too (compared to others I still am)
I read EVERY new thread for months before I posted or pinned grey...
I am still very knew in my knowledge and learn more every day, but would love to attract deeper more data driven conversations to this forum.

Here is an excerpt from a post, by the forum founder, and what seems to be the makings of a mission statement:

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I have a training to do today, it is not medically related, and will not put anyone's health at risk, but I will do it with the person until they are able to do it themselves. I am paid for this service and they will have to learn. I will not do it for them, they will fumble, they will make mistakes, but they will learn.

There is a value to letting someone "figure it out".

It is such a fine line here and much can go wrong for new people who do not take learning seriously.
If you cannot stand up on skis, is it appropriate to teach you how to get on a lift?
If the expectation is that by not compelling someone to learn, even if done with sarcasm or the occasional snide remark, are we actually doing a disservice and potentially enabling them to make mistakes?

Whatever your opinions on these things; is judging others for their actions not the same thing?

If I say you are a jerk for being sarcastic, could I have not kept my mouth shut too?

All of these things aside, from a content perspective, does the community benefit form 100 posts asking the same very basic question in a forum designed for, at minimum, intermediate skill level?

There are many philosophical and ethical questions, and I love to see people trying to improve their lives, and I was a noob too (compared to others I still am)
I read EVERY new thread for months before I posted or pinned grey...
I am still very knew in my knowledge and learn more every day, but would love to attract deeper more data driven conversations to this forum.

Here is an excerpt from a post, by the forum founder, and what seems to be the makings of a mission statement:

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100% agree to that, I always said that not everybody can be helped

I get to onboard and observe new employees and the ones that aren't willing to learn I just don't help them. All of them were fired during their probation

I just don't like putting energy into something I know will not come out right
 

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