Will we be paying tariffs on research peptides?

[keangkong]

The Indian online pharmacy, PCT 24X7, recently informed me that they could ship to the US but that I'd have to pay the 20% tariff. I wonder if us paying tariffs is the way of the future for Chinese research peptides.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I suspect the situation is going to remain fluid for the foreseeable future.

I don't have any international purchases of any kind planned for the rest of the year, so I won't likely feel the short-term impact (at least related to our hobby) like those who may need to acquire anything soon. I'm hoping (but not exactly counting on) things become more predictable by the time I do need to order anything. 🤪

I also expect some of the larger suppliers will figure out ways to get more inventory to domestic warehouses, somewhat easing the pain but I'm sure the prices will creep higher to account for whatever extra import and/or logistics costs they have to pay to get it here.

So, to answer your question: maybe. Or maybe not. Or occasionally.

 

[vewdew34]

The Indian online pharmacy, PCT 24X7, recently informed me that they could ship to the US but that I'd have to pay the 20% tariff. I wonder if us paying tariffs is the way of the future for Chinese research peptides.

I don't have any doubts that we will be paying, unless things change.

 

[Rootus346]

The importers are not exactly following the law as it is, so why would they start now? I do not expect costs to change significantly.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Zippity has the right idea. I need to order some bulk next time and stop messing around with baby weight.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

The importers are not exactly following the law as it is, so why would they start now? I do not expect costs to change significantly.

Unless they've got some kind of Star Trek transporter doohickey, they've still gotta get the stuff across the fence somehow, and airplanes and cargo ships are really hard to hide. Their distribution model up until now has been relying on the de minimis exclusions. Whatever additional costs they will incur getting the stuff here - whether they're called tariffs, duties, or paying off Joey the Jawbreaker - ultimately the buyer will be the one paying that price.

 

[keangkong]

Unless they've got some kind of Star Trek transporter doohickey, they've still gotta get the stuff across the fence somehow, and airplanes and cargo ships are really hard to hide. Their distribution model up until now has been relying on the de minimis exclusions. Whatever additional costs they will incur getting the stuff here - whether they're called tariffs, duties, or paying off Joey the Jawbreaker - ultimately the buyer will be the one paying that price.

Curiously, if customs is supposed to collect a large amount of money, then they have an incentive to permit our research peptides to enter the country. The overall trend in peptides has been they've gone down in price. Tariffs would increase the price somewhat.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Curiously, if customs is supposed to collect a large amount of money, then they have an incentive to permit our research peptides to enter the country. The overall trend in peptides has been they've gone down in price. Tariffs would increase the price somewhat.

That is definitely the case in Canada where the CBSA is really just another revenue collection arm of the government. In the US it's a relatively minor concern with regard to the average consumer, but for major importers that's definitely a big part of the equation.

In the end, if we're to believe what the people in charge are telling us 🙄 this is supposedly about "fair" trade and leveling the playing field. To me, it's more about political philosophy and posturing which as usual ends up doing nothing to change or improve anything. In the meanwhile, average folks like us end up more confused and frustrated, and usually a little lighter in the wallet when all is said and done.

 

[hexagonal]

We'll be paying some amount of tariffs, but unlikely it will be anything near the actual value. There's just no incentive to declare a $2k peptide order as being $2k vs. $300 or whatever when they already have to provide false documentation on the contents.

 

[Rootus346]

Unless they've got some kind of Star Trek transporter doohickey, they've still gotta get the stuff across the fence somehow, and airplanes and cargo ships are really hard to hide. Their distribution model up until now has been relying on the de minimis exclusions. Whatever additional costs they will incur getting the stuff here - whether they're called tariffs, duties, or paying off Joey the Jawbreaker - ultimately the buyer will be the one paying that price.

My guess is that relatively few packages get inspected at all. Some go through x-ray. A handful get opened. Sort of like how we ship vials to Janoshik and say they are $1 of decorations, I expect our Chinese friends to work out a way to skate under the radar -- not under de minimus, I get that, but not at full value either. So there will be a tariff, but I expect it will just be a few percent in practical terms.

 

[Morbius]

Waiting for a tariff note from the shipper and doing that payment and hoping the bureaucracy doesn't mess it all up... Not looking forward to that even if the tariff fee is minimal. Our vendors better step up their USA warehousing efforts. I want them to deal with all the gov't hassles.

 

[Rootus346]

Waiting for a tariff note from the shipper and doing that payment and hoping the bureaucracy doesn't mess it all up... Not looking forward to that even if the tariff fee is minimal. Our vendors better step up their USA warehousing efforts. I want them to deal with all the gov't hassles.

Yeah I have basically decided not to bother ordering from anyone that isn't shipping from US warehouses. I don't want the hassle.