Peak Karen remark right here. Someone really needs to get the manager involved.
yet another scam from Tracy at QSC!
- Thread starter Catpepti
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A merchant took my money and did not give any update for weeks. Only after I accused them of being scammer they stated they posted an update on their social media of bank issues.
Is this normal in any part of the world or in history of transactions ever?
No, this is not normal or acceptable in the context of business transactions, either historically or in most regions today. The key issues here involve lack of communication, transparency, and customer service. Let's break it down:
1. Lack of Communication:
A merchant is responsible for keeping their customers informed about delays or issues with fulfilling an order. The burden is on them to proactively communicate via the channels they used to conduct the transaction (e.g., email, phone, or their website). Expecting customers to monitor social media for updates is unprofessional unless explicitly agreed upon as the main communication channel.
2. Transparency and Trust:
In commerce—both historically and in modern times—trust is fundamental. Merchants who fail to maintain transparency risk being perceived as dishonest or unreliable. If there were legitimate issues with their bank or payment systems, they should have promptly communicated this directly to affected customers.
3. Professional Standards:
While occasional delays or technical issues happen, established norms in commerce dictate that merchants address these promptly and respectfully. Blaming customers for being upset (or labeling them as accusatory when they express concerns) is contrary to good customer service practices.
4. Historical Context:
Even in older systems of trade, merchants were expected to honor their agreements, whether through direct communication or established reputation. Failure to deliver goods or services without explanation would often result in loss of business, reputation damage, or legal consequences.
If this happened to you, you have every right to feel frustrated. Depending on the amount involved and the merchant’s response, you may want to consider filing a complaint with relevant consumer protection authorities or pursuing a refund through your payment provider.
lol having chatgpt defend your Karen remarks might actually push it to a new level of Karen.
A user responded with this: lol having chatgpt defend your Karen remarks might actually push it to a new level of Karen.
Whats his problem?
It sounds like the user is dismissing your valid concerns by labeling your frustration as "Karen-like," which is often used (sometimes unfairly) to characterize someone as being overly demanding or entitled. This response might be intended to trivialize the issue rather than engage with the legitimate problem you've raised.
The issue here is likely a misunderstanding or lack of empathy for your position. You’re addressing a genuine concern about a merchant’s failure to communicate and provide updates, which is entirely reasonable. The user's comment may reflect a lack of context or an inclination to deflect rather than discuss the issue seriously.
If their intent was to mock or provoke, it's more a reflection of their attitude than anything wrong with your concerns. It's okay to set the record straight if you feel comfortable doing so, or you can choose to disengage if the comment isn’t constructive.
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
I think you're being a little harsh. They're right. QSC is not known for their great communication skills. They obviously handle a large volume of customs and that negatively impacts their responsiveness.
On an unrelated note: can you ask Zippity for forum superpowers? Please 🥺
Should i expect a high level of communications when buying gray market pharmaceuticals from overseas from a vendor known by everyone in the community to have poor communications?
ChatGPT said:
No, you should not expect a high level of communication when purchasing from a vendor already known for poor communications, especially in the gray market pharmaceutical space. Such vendors often prioritize discretion over customer interaction due to the nature of their business. If communication is critical to you, consider seeking out an alternative vendor with a better reputation for responsiveness, even if they are less popular or slightly more expensive.
It’s just goofy when people demand bans of a vendor for acting exactly as they always have because whatever expectation the Karen has created themselves are not being met. Qsc is what it is, and is not making promises of anything else. They set expectations appropriately and then deliver accordingly. They are not scamming, it’s a Karen move to say they are because you want them to change their established methods. The non-Karen move would be to find someone who does meet their expectations and shop there instead.
Being exploitedworkerbee's obese hypeman won't get you mod
Why is fish stick Karen carrying on about customer service from a vendor known for poor communication? Answer in the form of a brief poem written by a drunk pirate.
Oh, Karen, ye scallywag, why do ye complain?
This vendor’s like thunder but ne’er brings the rain.
Their words be as slippery as a fish on the deck,
And their promises vanish, just a barnacle speck.
Ye knew their foul ways, their ship run aground,
Yet ye holler and mutter, with a scurvy growl sound.
Raise a tankard, me heartie, and let it all go,
For trustin’ that lot is a fool’s tale o’ woe!
Dismissing the notion that someone might actually disagree with them… Another Karen move! Keep the hits coming.
Yeah keep being Tracy's paypig. The lack of updates is super masculine in your feminine brain isn't it.
Low effort posts rececives low effort ai responses
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
Beefsteak, please chill out.
We're not banning QSC, but we all seem to agree they have some serious issues. That's probably as good as it's going to get.
I wouldn't put it past stairmaster. He's paving some real standards and wields quite a lot of influence. I think a part of why the visceral response is because ewb knows he has no part in establishing the standard. And jud is just a tart.
It’s true, I’m devastated
Edit to clarify, in all seriousness, I’m just a forum user that Zippity apparently trusted enough to give mod privileges. I’m just trying to keep this place on the rails while he is absent. I’ve got zero interest in participating in any self-appointed standard-establishing groups (and there have been a few over the past couple of years, all of them massive Kareny self-righteous circle jerks). I’m from the “do the research and make a decision when buying drugs online” school of thought, there is no place for me in “establishing the standard.”
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The only issue they really have is not catering to needy drama queens.
In trade we get industry realigning prices on the stuff we want, shipped reasonably quickly and with a high turnover volume- meaning lots of independent testing and nothing sitting on a shelf for months.
But a few Karens don’t like that trade off, so think they need to relentlessly impose their nonsense on the whole world instead of just quietly fucking off.
This whole problem was solved 15 years ago with the invention of Bitcoin and blockchain technology.
Instead we hear these luddites using "wire" transfers to bank accounts and complain when they don't get their shit.
Bitcoin solves this.
Instead we hear these luddites using "wire" transfers to bank accounts and complain when they don't get their shit.
Bitcoin solves this.
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
I'm not on team QSC at all here. I don't think they deserve to be banned but I would never recommend them and I genuinely think people should stop doing that to new users like it's some sort of hazing ritual.
We get new complaints about them everyday both here and on Peppy's and IMHO the complaints are valid. They clearly aren't staffed for the level of business they receive and it creates problems that otherwise wouldn't exist. You should never find out after you've paid someone that they don't have the items you paid for, and if you do you should get a refund not the offer of store credit. You shouldn't find out important details like the fact that their bank has been frozen through the grapevine. That's just ridiculous.
I do think @beefsteak is being a bit obstinate about this for no good reason though. They're not going to be banned, so there is no use in harping on the subject.
noteablequotable
GLP-1 Specialist
Bitcoin does not solve poor customer service, lol.
I’m sure no one would be more happy about needy/newbies and their $130 orders going elsewhere than Tracy.
And when they do go to someone else to learn the ropes, even though they will pay more, they will be paying much less because QSC brought prices of the whole GLP1 industry down 75% this year via their no nonsense business model.
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
i got bella at that email. and someone else on the order before that was not him, Irene. not complaining, just providing info. I get plenty of communications from them. this is from 2 different orders. i don't get this good communications from most people i buy from here in the USA.
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We have that whole novel of a thread about the issues with QSC and bitcoin, lol. Obviously didn't solve it.
GimmeABreak
Rabbit-hole Explorer
Considering SM's user base, I think Stairmaster should consider banning QSC just to save new users from themselves. QSC should never be anyones first purchase.
People that order from them expecting them to operate like a US vial seller or a half-dozen other Chinese sellers are going to be disappointed and frustrated every time. Should they be banned here? Probably not, when people come here to voice their concerns about QSC not communicating or taking too long to ship or being treated like crap by Tracy, the community tends to lambast them.
If you set your expectations low enough, QSC is fine. You are gambling with every CN purchase, the risk/reward with QSC is just a little higher.
Nikki nik
GLP-1 Specialist
BAC water 🤣
Never said it did....
But the market obviously doesn't care. If it did, he'd be broke.
