Peak Karen remark right here. Someone really needs to get the manager involved.Lack of communication might as well be a scam. Can't wait until the day stairmaster blacklists qsc for shitty customer service.
Peak Karen remark right here. Someone really needs to get the manager involved.Lack of communication might as well be a scam. Can't wait until the day stairmaster blacklists qsc for shitty customer service.
Peak Karen remark right here.
lol having chatgpt defend your Karen remarks might actually push it to a new level of Karen.A merchant took my money and did not give any update for weeks. Only after I accused them of being scammer they stated they posted an update on their social media of bank issues.
Is this normal in any part of the world or in history of transactions ever?
No, this is not normal or acceptable in the context of business transactions, either historically or in most regions today. The key issues here involve lack of communication, transparency, and customer service. Let's break it down:
1. Lack of Communication:
A merchant is responsible for keeping their customers informed about delays or issues with fulfilling an order. The burden is on them to proactively communicate via the channels they used to conduct the transaction (e.g., email, phone, or their website). Expecting customers to monitor social media for updates is unprofessional unless explicitly agreed upon as the main communication channel.
2. Transparency and Trust:
In commerce—both historically and in modern times—trust is fundamental. Merchants who fail to maintain transparency risk being perceived as dishonest or unreliable. If there were legitimate issues with their bank or payment systems, they should have promptly communicated this directly to affected customers.
3. Professional Standards:
While occasional delays or technical issues happen, established norms in commerce dictate that merchants address these promptly and respectfully. Blaming customers for being upset (or labeling them as accusatory when they express concerns) is contrary to good customer service practices.
4. Historical Context:
Even in older systems of trade, merchants were expected to honor their agreements, whether through direct communication or established reputation. Failure to deliver goods or services without explanation would often result in loss of business, reputation damage, or legal consequences.
If this happened to you, you have every right to feel frustrated. Depending on the amount involved and the merchant’s response, you may want to consider filing a complaint with relevant consumer protection authorities or pursuing a refund through your payment provider.
A user responded with this: lol having chatgpt defend your Karen remarks might actually push it to a new level of Karen.lol having chatgpt defend your Karen remarks might actually push it to a new level of Karen.
lol having chatgpt defend your Karen remarks might actually push it to a new level of Karen.
It’s just goofy when people demand bans of a vendor for acting exactly as they always have because whatever expectation the Karen has created themselves are not being met. Qsc is what it is, and is not making promises of anything else. They set expectations appropriately and then deliver accordingly. They are not scamming, it’s a Karen move to say they are because you want them to change their established methods. The non-Karen move would be to find someone who does meet their expectations and shop there instead.I think you're being a little harsh. They're right. QSC is not known for their great communication skills. They obviously handle a large volume of customs and that negatively impacts their responsiveness.
On an unrelated note: can you ask Zippity for forum superpowers? Please 🥺
Being exploitedworkerbee's obese hypeman won't get you modYou’ve already decided to buy elsewhere, why are you still carrying on?
Find fishstick a safe space, stat!
See, even chatgpt agrees with me to blacklist qsc and seek out alternative vendors with better communication.
It's all fun and games until the money stops flowing.
You’ve already decided to buy elsewhere, why are you still carrying on?
Find fishstick a safe space, stat!
Dismissing the notion that someone might actually disagree with them… Another Karen move! Keep the hits coming.Being exploitedworkerbee's obese hypeman won't get you mod
Fucking perfect.Why is fish stick Karen carrying on about customer service from a vendor known for poor communication? Answer in the form of a brief poem written by a drunk pirate.
Oh, Karen, ye scallywag, why do ye complain?
This vendor’s like thunder but ne’er brings the rain.
Their words be as slippery as a fish on the deck,
And their promises vanish, just a barnacle speck.
Ye knew their foul ways, their ship run aground,
Yet ye holler and mutter, with a scurvy growl sound.
Raise a tankard, me heartie, and let it all go,
For trustin’ that lot is a fool’s tale o’ woe!
Yeah keep being Tracy's paypig. The lack of updates is super masculine in your feminine brain isn't it.Derp.
Only semi obese now. Pretty badass actually.
At least I’m not a Karen, using AI to justify calling the manager.
Just pathetic.
Yeah keep being Tracy's paypig. The lack of updates is super masculine in your feminine brain isn't it.
Low effort posts rececives low effort ai responses
I wouldn't put it past stairmaster. He's paving some real standards and wields quite a lot of influence. I think a part of why the visceral response is because ewb knows he has no part in establishing the standard. And jud is just a tart.Beefsteak, please chill out.
We're not banning QSC, but we all seem to agree they have some serious issues. That's probably as good as it's going to get.
It’s true, I’m devastatedI wouldn't put it past stairmaster. He's paving some real standards and wields quite a lot of influence. I think a part of why the visceral response is because ewb knows he has no part in establishing the standard. And jud is just a tart.
The only issue they really have is not catering to needy drama queens.Beefsteak, please chill out.
We're not banning QSC, but we all seem to agree they have some serious issues. That's probably as good as it's going to get.
The only issue they really have is not catering to needy drama queens.
In trade we get industry realigning prices on the stuff we want, shipped reasonably quickly and with a high turnover volume- meaning lots of independent testing and nothing sitting on a shelf for months.
But a few Karens don’t like that trade off, so think they need to relentlessly impose their nonsense on the whole world instead of just quietly fucking off.
This whole problem was solved 15 years ago with the invention of Bitcoin and blockchain technology.
Instead we hear these luddites using "wire" transfers to bank accounts and complain when they don't get their shit.
Bitcoin solves this.
I’m sure no one would be more happy about needy/newbies and their $130 orders going elsewhere than Tracy.I'm not on team QSC at all here. I don't think they deserve to be banned but I would never recommend them and I genuinely think people should stop doing that to new users like it's some sort of hazing ritual.
We get new complaints about them everyday both here and on Peppy's and IMHO the complaints are valid. They clearly aren't staffed for the level of business they receive and it creates problems that otherwise wouldn't exist. You should never find out after you've paid someone that they don't have the items you paid for, and if you do you should get a refund not the offer of store credit. You shouldn't find out important details like the fact that their bank has been frozen through the grapevine. That's just ridiculous.
I do think @beefsteak is being a bit obstinate about this for no good reason though. They're not going to be banned, so there is no use in harping on the subject.
i got bella at that email. and someone else on the order before that was not him, Irene. not complaining, just providing info. I get plenty of communications from them. this is from 2 different orders. i don't get this good communications from most people i buy from here in the USA.Generally speaking, when you communicate by email or WhatsApp, you get an employee of Tracy, not the actual Tracy. If you have a problem, then you probably ought to contact the actual Tracy at tracy@sigmachemical.com.cn.
We have that whole novel of a thread about the issues with QSC and bitcoin, lol. Obviously didn't solve it.This whole problem was solved 15 years ago with the invention of Bitcoin and blockchain technology.
Instead we hear these luddites using "wire" transfers to bank accounts and complain when they don't get their shit.
Bitcoin solves this.
Considering SM's user base, I think Stairmaster should consider banning QSC just to save new users from themselves. QSC should never be anyones first purchase.I'm not on team QSC at all here. I don't think they deserve to be banned but I would never recommend them and I genuinely think people should stop doing that to new users like it's some sort of hazing ritual.
We get new complaints about them everyday both here and on Peppy's and IMHO the complaints are valid. They clearly aren't staffed for the level of business they receive and it creates problems that otherwise wouldn't exist. You should never find out after you've paid someone that they don't have the items you paid for, and if you do you should get a refund not the offer of store credit. You shouldn't find out important details like the fact that their bank has been frozen through the grapevine. That's just ridiculous.
I do think @beefsteak is being a bit obstinate about this for no good reason though. They're not going to be banned, so there is no use in harping on the subject.
BAC water 🤣If it's for real, what did you buy for that price, a 5mg Tirze kit? You used all your breadcrumbs money?
Bitcoin does not solve poor customer service, lol.