FOXO4 DRI - or - MotsC

[SunMoonStars]

I’m looking for advice. I have SS31 50mg and NAD+ 1000mg on the way. I’ve read folks like to run FOXO4 first, and I’ve seen protocols that run SS31 + NAD + MotsC.

QUESTION: if you could only buy one, either the FOXO4 or the MotsC, which one would you choose?

I am currently on Reta & Klow. Sometimes NAD+ & Glutathione. I’m a woman in my mid 50s. I want to purchase strategically. Any advice, thoughts, suggestions, much appreciated.

 

[randompersonrandom]

MOTS-C is the only part of the mitochondrial protocol that I really believe did anything. I can't be sure at all about NAD+ and didn't notice any particular effect from it, and I think I had some placebo effect with SS-31, but I was bored of the whole thing by the time I got to the MOTS-C part, and I'm almost sure that's when I stopped feeling as tired.

Mind you, I'm open to the idea that it was the combination-ish of the three.

 

[SunMoonStars]

MOTS-C is the only part of the mitochondrial protocol that I really believe did anything. I can't be sure at all about NAD+ and didn't notice any particular effect from it, and I think I had some placebo effect with SS-31, but I was bored of the whole thing by the time I got to the MOTS-C part, and I'm almost sure that's when I stopped feeling as tired.

Mind you, I'm open to the idea that it was the combination-ish of the three.

Thank you for sharing. I appreciate!

I’m curious if maybe only older people (40s and above) notice difference with the NAD, or SS31. Everyone I know that takes MotsC are all in their late 20s to 30s, and they all rave about it! But I don’t know that many people on peps overall, so… I will probably buy both and experiment.

My wallet hurts, and my freezer is squished 😑

 

[swimmer]

I am finishing the 14 week protocol that uses NAD+, ss31 and mots-c. My reaction times and memory have definitely improved and I rarely need to take naps in the evening anymore. While on the protocol I did not notice any instant changes but I do as much now as I did 20 years ago in a day. I am a male in my early 60s.

 

[randompersonrandom]

Thank you for sharing. I appreciate!

I’m curious if maybe only older people (40s and above) notice difference with the NAD, or SS31. Everyone I know that takes MotsC are all in their late 20s to 30s, and they all rave about it! But I don’t know that many people on peps overall, so… I will probably buy both and experiment.

My wallet hurts, and my freezer is squished 😑

I LOVE you for thinking I even MIGHT be in my 20's or 30's! If I was, I'd make WAY better life choices than I did the first time through. Maybe.

 

[v2boi]

Approaching 50 year old male here and currently on nad+ and SS31 week 3 into the 14 weeks
Procotol, my sleep tracker agrees I’m having the best deep sleep ever now. Having the energy to go for twice a day gym session too. Can’t wait to start on mots-c

 

[SunMoonStars]

I am finishing the 14 week protocol that uses NAD+, ss31 and mots-c. My reaction times and memory have definitely improved and I rarely need to take naps in the evening anymore. While on the protocol I did not notice any instant changes but I do as much now as I did 20 years ago in a day. I am a male in my early 60s.

Thank you for reply/sharing progress. I will definitely research this protocol now, especially after reading about your results. I am hopeful! I can definitely use the improved energy. I would love to be able to skip the afternoon naps 🥱

 

[Tbagger]

I too am just about finished on the 14 week protocol. I would recommend going with the Mots-c then maybe after that, you can run a cycle of FOX04. I am a male in my 40's and have always been pretty out of shape and beaten up metabolically. After running this cycle for a while, I sleep better, am going to the gym after work every day, my home project to-do list is finally getting shorter, and I just all around feel healthier in both body and mind. I am also taking Reta and very recently started a tesa/ipa cycle. I am also very interested in running a cycle of FOX04, but that price tag is no joke! So since I haven't run it yet, I can't really speak to it's benefits. But I do know Mots-c is great!

 

[AlexSilver]

The FOX04 prices are absolutely ridiculous. I've seen prices ranging from 145 to 350 for one 10mg vial. Just absurd.

 

[SunMoonStars]

The FOX04 prices are absolutely ridiculous. I've seen prices ranging from 145 to 350 for one 10mg vial. Just absurd.

Agreed! I saw some vials on a BST, but I’m still a value shopper and might hold out for a GB (crossing fingers someone organizes one, and I trip across invite!) I’ve seen kits priced from 210 to 680, but no COAs. I’m still new to gray, and I prefer sticking to a small handful of organizers/reps/suppliers. I need that trust relationship. Thankfully all good transactions so far…

 

[SunMoonStars]

I too am just about finished on the 14 week protocol. I would recommend going with the Mots-c then maybe after that, you can run a cycle of FOX04. I am a male in my 40's and have always been pretty out of shape and beaten up metabolically. After running this cycle for a while, I sleep better, am going to the gym after work every day, my home project to-do list is finally getting shorter, and I just all around feel healthier in both body and mind. I am also taking Reta and very recently started a tesa/ipa cycle. I am also very interested in running a cycle of FOX04, but that price tag is no joke! So since I haven't run it yet, I can't really speak to its benefits. But I do know Mots-c is great!

Thank you, I will do this! Obtaining Mots-C first, since I’ve already secured the rest to run the 14 week protocol. Then hopefully this season or next, secure the FOX04, and go from there. I’m in no mad rush, and hoping for group buy, because this hobby is getting pricey! Ha!

 

[SunMoonStars]

Approaching 50 year old male here and currently on nad+ and SS31 week 3 into the 14 weeks
Procotol, my sleep tracker agrees I’m having the best deep sleep ever now. Having the energy to go for twice a day gym session too. Can’t wait to start on mots-c

Can I ask, what else are you currently running? I want to be where you are at, in terms of the energy to go to the gym twice a day?!! Dayum! 🔥

 

[AlexSilver]

OMG, I want to have time to go to the gym twice a day! Can only do it 3 times a week now. I hope you hit that goal.