Endotoxin Warning

randompersonrandom said:
Also, the fact that @littledragon25 and @CNCCurrency have similar profile pics and totally opposite posting styles keeps making me lol when I think one of them is the other and my eyebrows go up for a sec.
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Oh, that's why I keep getting them mixed up lol. I mostly just pay attention to people's profile pics if they stand out, but there is an awareness of them somewhere in the back of my mind, I guess.
 
littledragon25 said:
That's because they won't release any t30 until tested now. They don't want to send out more dodgy product so want to check it.

The $220 will be what you spent. They keep right records to be fair to them. I'd recommend holding off until they have a promo you like and grabbing stuff then.
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I assumed as much, just stating what happened.
 
IshimaruKenta said:
I assumed as much, just stating what happened.
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I emailed her with proof and said ill swallow the 50 shipping and would take the 190 credit.... i got ...will take a while till testing is done on black t30. Then i said send me 1 t40 ill pay shipping and were even. Nothing. Granted shes busy.
 
randompersonrandom said:
Also, the fact that @littledragon25 and @CNCCurrency have similar profile pics and totally opposite posting styles keeps making me lol when I think one of them is the other and my eyebrows go up for a sec.
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eye GIF
 
randompersonrandom said:
I just saw JEEP's original f-you, followed by the walk back. (I've been busy). I'll be damned. I'm trying to decide whether this counts as a drama thread, because it may not be a fight but this all IS super dramatic. Tellin my coworkers about it like it's 90 day fiancee.
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Your drama signature is flawed ... It was 2603eu!
 
Dos-Dox said:
I’m glad you made this the latest drama read. This one has been WAY spicer than the STG nuke and I love the way you summarized it so accurately! 😂
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There hasn't actually BEEN much drama since January. Zip has been very insistent on people treating each other with SOME basic courtesy, so there's been nothing to document. This is a big day!
V6R3W said:
It was 2306
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Got it! 2306 going once, 2306 going twice... @littledragon25 , it's y'all's group, can you confirm?
 
RetCurious said:
I was surprised when I first discovered "testing" centered around mass and purity in most discussions. Mass and purity should be the bare minimal IMO.
My understanding is M&P testing has only become common over the last year or 2 and yet even today vendors cheat the system by using forged or out of date M&P COA's and offer no guarantees on sterility or endo contents.
They go out of their way to disguise or hide custody chains so there's no way to truly trace batches or bad actors. Much of this is by design and somewhat understandable, vendor business competition and manufacturers needing to distance themselves from involvement in gray markets.
The only power we have is to move vendors to demand higher standards is by punishing them by taking their market away. If they release a "bad product" they must make it right with everyone affected. It can not be profitable for them to handle bad product, in fact it has to hurt them or they will continue to poison their customers.
Vendors like Uther purposefully hiding bad endo tests after they knowingly bought endo tainted raws is a prime example. Uther deserves the market death penalty.
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This is correct. In 2023 - it was rare to find testing among the Gray Market Peptide places. Then the PTDS testing server was started in Summer 2023. Testing took off. By the end of 2024 - It was an expected part of the sales process. The community demanded testing, and then did their own tests too.... The Gray Market Community moved the goalpost by staying steadfast and consistent in wanting and doing testing. It can be done again , if the community starts endotoxin testing and starts demanding it as an expected part of the sales process.... it will again move the goal post. Remember, the Chinese sellers are not our honey or friend. They are in this for the money. The less they have to put out for testing the more money they make. Even claiming things over several months is the "same batch" is just a ruse for money sake. True batches don't last that long if they are active sellers. They are just using that to confuse people, make it difficult to follow, and to save themselves money.
 
randompersonrandom said:
There hasn't actually BEEN much drama since January. Zip has been very insistent on people treating each other with SOME basic courtesy, so there's been nothing to document. This is a big day!

Got it! 2306 going once, 2306 going twice... @littledragon25 , it's y'all's group, can you confirm?
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Teaches me not to recall numbers late at night ..
 
FamousGoodkitty said:
This is correct. In 2023 - it was rare to find testing among the Gray Market Peptide places. Then the PTDS testing server was started in Summer 2023. Testing took off. By the end of 2024 - It was an expected part of the sales process. The community demanded testing, and then did their own tests too.... The Gray Market Community moved the goalpost by staying steadfast and consistent in wanting and doing testing. It can be done again , if the community starts endotoxin testing and starts demanding it as an expected part of the sales process.... it will again move the goal post. Remember, the Chinese sellers are not our honey or friend. They are in this for the money. The less they have to put out for testing the more money they make. Even claiming things over several months is the "same batch" is just a ruse for money sake. True batches don't last that long if they are active sellers. They are just using that to confuse people, make it difficult to follow, and to save themselves money.
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I tested my first peptide as part of a WhatsApp group of cancer patients all using thymosin alpha-1 to support immune response back in 2019... So it was rare but it did exist!
 
Summer48 said:
Not sure what to do here I bought T30 end of January from ERP orange smooth cap. Just realised it had them. Are these the ones everyone is talking about or not. Not no batches no on so I can’t tell
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They're all the same, so probably is bad, yes.
 
Summer48 said:
Not sure what to do here I bought T30 end of January from ERP orange smooth cap. Just realised it had them. Are these the ones everyone is talking about or not. Not no batches no on so I can’t tell
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Depending on how much you purchased and how concerned you are you could send a vial in for endo testing. Will cost you $150-$200 if you're in the states.
 
Summer48 said:
Not sure what to do here I bought T30 end of January from ERP orange smooth cap. Just realised it had them. Are these the ones everyone is talking about or not. Not no batches no on so I can’t tell
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I would look for a testing group. I'm sure someone will run an endo test for those. If not, there should be enough interest to form one.
Lot's of folks will post their endo results publicly. So if you're able to wait, you may get an answer that way.
 
I continue to see some vendors offering extreme discounts on T30. Sure enough, they appear to be the orange cap variety. For example, KBR is having a DEEP sale on T30, and this is their COA: https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/92825-T30_VA44NTI97VK7

Look familiar? And this is just one of at least 3 vendors I have come across that are still selling--at deep discount--orange cap Tirz.
 
Romulusguy said:
I continue to see some vendors offering extreme discounts on T30. Sure enough, they appear to be the orange cap variety. For example, KBR is having a DEEP sale on T30, and this is their COA: https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/92825-T30_VA44NTI97VK7

Look familiar? And this is just one of at least 3 vendors I have come across that are still selling--at deep discount--orange cap Tirz.
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"Unbelievable special" "Hurry, while supply lasts"
 
Romulusguy said:
I continue to see some vendors offering extreme discounts on T30. Sure enough, they appear to be the orange cap variety. For example, KBR is having a DEEP sale on T30, and this is their COA: https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/92825-T30_VA44NTI97VK7

Look familiar? And this is just one of at least 3 vendors I have come across that are still selling--at deep discount--orange cap Tirz.
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A vendor I used was offering a steep discount prior to this latest Jano endo release...makes me wonder if some of these vendors may have been aware of the situation prior to this very public release from the testing group, guess we'll never know, but things that make you go hmmmmm
 
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