No tirz detected in Uther T60

peppystrings80

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Good morning! Yesterday I received some alarming test results. Full disclosure, I completely trusted the COA I was given from the reseller, so I sent this vial to the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk because I wanted to test endotoxins and wasn't primarily concerned with mass and purity. The vial was sent to Krause, which I am aware is a questionable lab. Uther will not accept these results, so I am sending a vial to Freedom Diagnostics this morning. It's entirely possible that Krause is wrong, and I will update as soon as I have those results. But this is a huge safety issue, as Uther is an incredibly popular vendor, even with recent issues. The Krause test results showed ZERO tirzepatide. I reached out to them to see if they could identify the peak, but I haven't heard back yet. I will post updates here as I get them. The batch of tirz is ZE60-0118. I own two kits, so it seemed worth testing for endotoxins. Glad I did.
 

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Thank you for posting this, and for including the batch number... is that marked on the kit? Maybe post a pic of the kit top too. Perhaps it's not even really that batch.

What's the nature of the reseller? e.g. grope buy organization, b/s/t posting, neighborhood distributor, ???
 
Good call! Here are a couple of pictures. Solid yellow cap, silver crimp. It's a reliable seller on a B/S/T forum, we're working together to get to the bottom of it. Uther will not refund him for the kits unless it's a different lab. He's offered me a full refund already, but I was a bit worried that the results were right, and he would send the kit back to Uther, who would re-verify a false good test result to sweep it under the rug. So I am sending it to a different lab. Will be fully reimbursed for all testing and shipping if result is confirmed. I don't want to throw him under the bus, he's doing the right thing. Uther is being really scummy, IMHO. But he is just re-sending his one test result. So so suspicious to me.
 

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byefatlicia said:
Wow, that's a nice over-fill if it's true🙂
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Yes, that's what I thought as well! Good purity also. I've been told Uther will accept results from a lab other than janoshik, I really didn't want to send it there because I think there is a a glaringly huge conflict of interest that a lot of people seem to ignore.
 
peppystrings80 said:
Good morning! Yesterday I received some alarming test results. Full disclosure, I completely trusted the COA I was given from the reseller, so I sent this vial to Finnrisk because I wanted to test endotoxins and wasn't primarily concerned with mass and purity. The vial was sent to Krause, which I am aware is a questionable lab. Uther will not accept these results, so I am sending a vial to Freedom Diagnostics this morning. It's entirely possible that Krause is wrong, and I will update as soon as I have those results. But this is a huge safety issue, as Uther is an incredibly popular vendor, even with recent issues. The Krause test results showed ZERO tirzepatide. I reached out to them to see if they could identify the peak, but I haven't heard back yet. I will post updates here as I get them. The batch of tirz is ZE60-0118. I own two kits, so it seemed worth testing for endotoxins. Glad I did.
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Wow .. crazy. I'd like to think it's a lab error but that's pretty basic testing. Would be shocking given Uther's reputation etc. Not good.

China's falling apart 😀
 
I was planning to only post here for now, since I'm waiting to confirm the results. I would like to think that Krause is correct, but the peak is nothing dangerous. A lot of people have had this kit for a while now, and surely some people are using it! I would think we would have heard if people were having reactions, like if it were semaglutide or something. I was considering posting to Peppys as well, but not sure if I should wait until I have the other results. If people want to let me know what they think I should do, that would actually be welcome, lol.
 
peppystrings80 said:
I was planning to only post here for now, since I'm waiting to confirm the results. I would like to think that Krause is correct, but the peak is nothing dangerous. A lot of people have had this kit for a while now, and surely some people are using it! I would think we would have heard if people were having reactions, like if it were semaglutide or something. I was considering posting to Peppys as well, but not sure if I should wait until I have the other results. If people want to let me know what they think I should do, that would actually be welcome, lol.
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I think the way you handled it here is perfect. You gave the information that you have. You noted the possibility for error on Krause's part. And said you'd follow up with a 2nd opinion from Freedom. I would think if you presented it this way on other platforms, it would be welcomed. Folks need to know about stuff like this.
 
Yes, I agree! Everything came in yesterday afternoon, I'm on the West Coast and I think a lot of people had probably already left for the weekend. I have sent emails to both Krause and the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk to help me clarify, but haven't heard back yet. I'll update here with their responses as well.
 
byefatlicia said:
I think the way you handled it here is perfect. You gave the information that you have. You noted the possibility for error on Krause's part. And said you'd follow up with a 2nd opinion from Freedom. I would think if you presented it this way on other platforms, it would be welcomed. Folks need to know about stuff like this.
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Thank you, I appreciate your input a lot. Safety has been my primary concern, which is why I sent the kit out for testing in the first place. I think I will make a similar post on Peppys.
 
byefatlicia said:
I'm a child then🙂 makes me laugh every time
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I guess we'll see, won't we? Perhaps they are the only ones who are telling the truth about Uther. The uther public tirz results are astonishingly bad. Say what you will, but a lot of people are sending their samples there. I've sent a lot. Mostly my results have matched jano tests. I've had things sent to Krause and BT and never had a reason to question the result until now. As I understand it, manufacturers/vendors can appeal a bad result, yes? And that's this whole controversy? Because they have to pay for it? So in other words, you'd be happy to let, say, a customer send in a vial of misidentified peps to make a company look bad. And the company have no recourse? And the service is free for the general public, not for vendors or resellers. I'm really really skeptical of what seems to me to be a pretty giant grey market propaganda machine against whatever the fuck you guys want to call it to make to fun. Maybe Finnrisk just uncovered a giant can of worms.
 
peppystrings80 said:
I guess we'll see, won't we? Perhaps they are the only ones who are telling the truth about Uther. The uther public tirz results are astonishingly bad. Say what you will, but a lot of people are sending their samples there. I've sent a lot. Mostly my results have matched jano tests. I've had things sent to Krause and BT and never had a reason to question the result until now. As I understand it, manufacturers/vendors can appeal a bad result, yes? And that's this whole controversy? Because they have to pay for it? So in other words, you'd be happy to let, say, a customer send in a vial of misidentified peps to make a company look bad. And the company have no recourse? And the service is free for the general public, not for vendors or resellers. I'm really really skeptical of what seems to me to be a pretty giant grey market propaganda machine against whatever the fuck you guys want to call it to make to fun. Maybe Finnrisk just uncovered a giant can of worms.
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My skepticism is bought and paid for🙂 here is one example:
View: https://youtu.be/7eCw7e69QzE?si=JIxa-6d1n6U7JMOJ
 
byefatlicia said:
My skepticism is bought and paid for🙂 here is one example:
View: https://youtu.be/7eCw7e69QzE?si=JIxa-6d1n6U7JMOJ
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Like I said, we'll see! I watched this before, and I noted in my original post that I'm aware Krause is not a great lab. But as another user said, this is a fairly simple test. Freedom is going to do a blind test for me, which seems like the best course of action in this situation. Everyone trusts jano and and everyone trusts Uther, but I don't trust anybody. Too much money too be made here, and even more when cutting corners. I'm American, I see propaganda machines everywhere I look.
 
Since Uther is so popular and therefore more prone to 3P testing, it's hard to imagine an already questionable lab would have the smoking gun for zero tirz, a GLP with strong feelz. But definitely worth checking out, as said above.
 
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Calm Logic said:
Likely the nail in the coffin for Krause. I will post 3P test results when available for Uther T60. Sample(s) are being sent out now by at least one GB. And I will look for results from the last month or so.
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From this particular batch, do you know? ZE60-0118? I did a lot of searching but wasn't able to find a testing group for it.
 
Someone over on Peppys has already insinuated that I deliberately sent in the wrong thing. People really really want Krause to be wrong. All you researchers are not acting very scientific, I gotta say. 😂😂😂 I'm just a fat lady who tried to get insurance to cover zepbound and now I am buying peptides on weird websites and sending them out for testing that may not even be able to be trusted. What the hell am I doing here, lol.
 
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