KLOW - worthless blue garbage, or amazing peptide?

It can be harder to tell with one’s self than when looking at other people. I’ve had a friend on GLOW for two months now and he would say nothing has changed, but the skin on his face has improved significantly.

He has also started using topical GHK-cu and adding a collagen and biotin supplement as of three months ago. His hair thinned out concerningly in the first couple of months but is at least now back to what it was when he started, which was pretty cool to watch happen. (Theoretically, the less healthy hair fell out and new stronger growth has taken its place.)
 
It can be harder to tell with one’s self than when looking at other people. I’ve had a friend on GLOW for two months now and he would say nothing has changed, but the skin on his face has improved significantly.

He has also started using topical GHK-cu and adding a collagen and biotin supplement as of three months ago. His hair thinned out concerningly in the first couple of months but is at least now back to what it was when he started, which was pretty cool to watch happen. (Theoretically, the less healthy hair fell out and new stronger growth has taken its place.)
True, we look at ourselves every day and its easy to miss long term changes unless you are documenting. Good point
 
I've taken GLOW (very similar) for several months, and honestly can't say I notice much. Definitely nothing for skin, mayyyyybe a little help for a nagging tendon injury but it's hard to say for sure. For me, it doesn't seem worth the cost TBH. I know lots of people have good results from what I've seen/heard. But it seems to not be the thing I need or respond to I guess
 
I had mass removed from my chest. I started using Klow 2 weeks after my surgery and was back to working out in no time. My hair started getting thicker as well (coming from my barber) my skin improved especially my eyebags and wrinkles. Im only taking Reta and Klow so im sure some of it has to be Klow.
 
n=1, but my mom started KLOW a couple of months ago, then got a kit, and is about to start anxiously hoarding it because she NEVER wants to run out. We're both in a weird place where we care VERY much about looking hot (she's not-too-long-ago widowed and healed up, and both of us just dropped sixty pounds in the last year), and she swears to god it's made a HUGE difference in her face. I'm on the fence, because yeah, my face looks a hundred times better too, but I don't know how much of that is the blue mystery powder shoot-up and how much of it is being skinny.
 
my mom started KLOW a couple of months ago, then got a kit, and is about to start anxiously hoarding it because she NEVER wants to run out.
That is remarkable! I wish I experienced the same miracle with this blue liquid but it has not done anything for me. I am told by our friends in this forum to be more patient and continue long-term (6 months) to see the benefits.

I don't know how much of that is the blue mystery powder shoot-up and how much of it is being skinny.
Could be both, really. If you're not looking saggy and hollow, then the blue liquid is definitely doing something I suppose?

But I do wonder why anything blue gets hyped up so much: the blue pill, methylene blue, and now klow/glow/ghk-cu.

I'd be interested to know if your mom has tried topical ghk-cu and whether that would add more benefits. Could be worth trying!
 
I'd be interested to know if your mom has tried topical ghk-cu and whether that would add more benefits. Could be worth trying!
No. She's considering it, but she's also considering tretinoin, and I don't think she wants to do both. I'm also considering tretinoin, but I'm sort of anxious about the possibility of gland damage in the eyes, and I'm pretty happy with my adapalene and not necessarily in the mood to throw a billion substances at my face and spend a ton of time obsessing over them.
 
No. She's considering it, but she's also considering tretinoin, and I don't think she wants to do both. I'm also considering tretinoin, but I'm sort of anxious about the possibility of gland damage in the eyes, and I'm pretty happy with my adapalene and not necessarily in the mood to throw a billion substances at my face and spend a ton of time obsessing over them.
I generally don't think it's a good idea to start tret as an older person as they don't respond very well and experience excessive peeling without the healing. GHK-Cu would be a much safer option for her, and perhaps some milder retinols.

Glad the adapalene is working for you. I'm all for being minimalist.
 
There is good human evidence that GHK-cu has beneficial effects on skin topically, but realistically that is about it for human clinical trial evidence.

No ethics committee would approve a trial of systemically administered KLOW or GLOW , based on their complex wide ranging and poorly understood effects of the individual components let alone them all combined. And the lack of even any animal testing.

The fact that so many people say it works does look convincing. I did have a discussion with chatgpt about this while ago.

An individual who uses these blends of peptides and finds they worked for them has experienced it working, but outside the context of a clinical trial where biases are accounted for and controls are present, it does not prove it will work for others. At best it is suggestive anecdotal evidence.

There are reasons why it could do nothing and yet look like it works.

Generally people start treating something when it is at it's worst, so that when the severity of the problem regresses back towards the mean over time, it will look effective.

Chronic soft tissue inflammatory / age related connective tissue degradation type problems it is often claimed to fix do have highly variable degrees of symptoms over time.

And of course the placebo effect, the degree to which the effects of those peptides have been repeated online, is very effective in convincing people it must be true if so many people say it, which is going to enhance the placebo effect, and as long as it is not causing harm, then this is actually then a useful treatment.

My logic is that if it is truly effective at increasing growth of connective tissue , then it carries risks of causing that growth in places you do not want it to happen, such as the heart or liver, which could cause organ function damage or failure long term. So if it does work as advertised it could be unsafe, and if not then at best it is a placebo.
 
This has been my experience/observation. The anecdotal evidence is just so compelling, but there's no real scientific evidence. it's crazy. I want to believe, I really do (and in fact I take it daily). Question: do you need to stay on a maintenance dose for your shoulder, or are you simply healed, no need for it any more until the next injury occurs?
Anecdotal evidence was primarily observation that AAS were effective at building strength, aggressiveness, and muscle size for decades. The medical community downplayed the role in protein synthesis and acknowledging receptor cell activation.
 
Anecdotal evidence , plus some weird theories about the 4 humours was the reason blood letting was used in medicine for several thousand years
 
I have diverticulitis and IBS. Also have muscle aches , I think klow has helped for me
 

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