Coming from 15mg Tirz to Reta. What’s the highest dosage you’ve heard of someone starting Reta at?

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Hello all and thanks for your time. Have been on Tirz for a year, last 4 months at 15mg. Considering Reta for the first time. In wanting to limit my risk and not having to make several purchases, I want to buy the highest dosage I can for my first Reta kit. Is a 60mg kit out of question? Price is good and comes from a US warehouse. Saving money on shipping too.
 
So I’ve heard the best thing to do avoid a hard switch. And to to being splitting doses. Everyone recommended starting low and slow. Like 1mg or less Reta.
I didn’t listen. I was on 5mg tirz, I decided to do 2.5 & 2.5.

I love the moderate appetite suppression and my stomach moves food faster. But I’ve gotten the mild side effect of dystenthesia (uncomfortable skin sensitivity). I’m probably going to drop back to 4mg TRZ and 1mg Reta. But I may actually never do a full switch as I like how it’s working currently.
 
Some peanut on reddit pinned 30mg.
I'd suggest perhaps starting considerably lower than that...

Unless you know, you really really like your toilet time.
Yeah I’m definitely not doing that. More so wondering if 4-6mg/week is a feasible starting dose for someone coming from 15mg of Tirz and still has a lot of weight to lose.
 
TBH I'd do 2mg for at least the first week or two and just barely come down on your tirz...just to make sure you're going to tolerate it. then as you go up in RETA, bring your TIRZ down. My plan is to continue to keep some amount of Tirz on board to help with hunger suppression since RT isn't as strong in that way.
 
in the phase 2 trials, eli lilly tried to start people off at 4 mg, but it resulted in a massive spike in nausea and vomiting with zero extra weight-loss benefit. So they abandoned it in phase 3 and had everyone start at 2mg.

it only works if you can get it in you and stick with it 🤷‍♂️
 
Some peanut on reddit pinned 30mg.
I'd suggest perhaps starting considerably lower than that...

Unless you know, you really really like your toilet time.
This was the best Reddit post ever. I wish i still had the link.
 
Hello all and thanks for your time. Have been on Tirz for a year, last 4 months at 15mg. Considering Reta for the first time. In wanting to limit my risk and not having to make several purchases, I want to buy the highest dosage I can for my first Reta kit. Is a 60mg kit out of question? Price is good and comes from a US warehouse. Saving money on shipping too.
Dude, in my humble opinion, anytime your mind is starting with - what is the highest dose you heard of starting with, asking for issues. I had a 2 week not really sleep on Reta once (long story). Perhaps look long term here and OK if effect isn’t great first few weeks. Anyway, those 2 weeks of not sleeping sucked for me.
 
Starting reta is different to swapping from tirz, starting at 4mg is probably a bad idea , swapping is much less likely to be a problem. The last time I suggested just swap over at 6-8mg , I got several critical replies , some had pretty good science behind them, and on average reta has more side effects than tirz.

It also depends a lot on what side effects you get now from 15mg of tirz and what it was like as you increased doses, the more side effects you got from tirz, the slower and more careful you should be. In general the slower and more careful you are, the less likely it is you will get sudden severe side effects, probably does not make much difference to overall amount of side effects for a given dose though.

So you can just gradually introduce reta while dropping tirz or just stop and swap, I do not think it is a big issue.

Also depends on how much of a problem it is to be on a lower dose of reta for a while, while swapping over and if regaining some weight in that time is a major issue.

I would not start higher than 4mg on a straight swap, in general if you want to escalate doses faster than every 4 weeks or so, the lowest risk approach is smaller doses more often, so every 2 or 3 days or twice a week, so each small extra dose will likely give you some side effects or not and help decide if continuing to increase doses is going to make them worse, and usually if you overshoot your tolerance it should take only a few days for blood levels to drop back to pre last dose levels. So something like 2mg 2 x a week, and increase 0.5mg per dose every week or 2 , assuming there are no side effects. If it is starting to kick in and have effects like appetite suppression or side effects like nausea, then you need to slow the increases right down. Something like that would get you to 6-8mg in 2 to 4 weeks, with fairly low risk of unexpected severe side effects. Check out glp plotter so you can see what different doses do to blood levels over time, you need to have some understanding of what is going on if you are going to deviate from the standard schedule. Also do not do this if you have not previously been on a glp drug. Once you are at a dose you are happy with and want to swap to weekly, just gradually increase one dose and decrease the other one.

When I swapped from ozempic to tirz I just added an extra mg every day or two for a while, until it seemed to be suppressing appetite a bit or causing mild nausea, but it got me to 15mg a week in about a month with no real problems.
 
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You should fade out of the Tirz gradually as you fade into the Reta. You might discover that Reta doesn't give you the appetite suppression you've become accustomed to, even as you increase the dose. Many of us have discovered that once you've tainted yourself with Tirz, Reta just doesn't work all that well. Hope your experience is different.
 
The best bet would be to reduce tirz and introduce reta. It is never a good idea to just swap over from one to the other and try to figure out what is best; as they are not 1:1 most of the time.
 
I switched straight from 15mg Tirz+6mg Survo to 10mg Reta, now at 7mg Reta every 3.5 days.
I reached my weight goal yesterday thanks to Cagri 1.7mg.
No side effects.
 
I feel like I could have gotten here faster with just Tirz+cagri and foregone glucagon agonists altogether, but I’ll never know.
 
Cagri made a huge difference honestly, especially titrating up every 4 weeks like in the studies.
I have an elora kit coming, but now that I’m at goal, I’ll probably never use it.
 
Tirz to Reta for me was a major fail. Hated Reta one. I hated food when I ate it but I still had the food noise. But Tirz + Reta = the secret sauce for me.

3mg Tirz Monday / 3mg Tirz Friday.
3mg Reta Wednesday.

Never looked back.
 
6 mg reta sounds like a good starting place if you are coming from 15 mg tirz. I found it's pretty similar at this dosage and I didn't need to titrate it was fine
 
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I did 2mg Reta for one week then jumped to 4mg , in the same time cut tirz in half and kept it there .
You can try Monday 1mg and Tuesday 1mg then increase by 1mg and switch from twice a week to once . Keep tirz pin on the same day and schedule the Reta 3 days after that
I do now Reta 4.4 on Sunday and tirz 5.5 on Tuesday weekly
 
In maintenance Reta 3mg 1x per week. This was from my previous post of my transition:

I was maxed out on 15mg Tirz when I hit goal, after 1 year, 5/25. I dropped the Tirz to 10mg, the following week, then the week following that I went right to Reta, I believe 1 or 1.5 intially, then to 3mg and that's were I stayed. I did stack reta w/ Cagri .250mcg, until 11/25. I dropped the Cagri stack bc I lost 15Lbs after goal weight and didn't want to loose more weight. I've haven't needed to go up on Reta despite some mild food noise, just bc I am easily satisfied and still at a caloric deficit.
 

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