Alabama Outlaws Peptides

They are specifically going after the providers not the suppliers nor the end users. I am more concerned with Connecticut’s actions a few weeks back that DID go after some Chinese suppliers which would affect us directly. Be honest, are any of us going to a practitioner to get a prescription for grey? If we were it would not be grey.

I agree things are tightening up but as long as I don’t see a large federal crackdown at customs or a change in the way possession is prosecuted I am not going to panic.
 
Tirzmonkey said:
They are specifically going after the providers not the suppliers nor the end users. I am more concerned with Connecticut’s actions a few weeks back that DID go after some Chinese suppliers which would affect us directly. Be honest, are any of us going to a practitioner to get a prescription for grey? If we were it would not be grey.

I agree things are tightening up but as long as I don’t see a large federal crackdown at customs or a change in the way possession is prosecuted I am not going to panic.
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Agreed! Stock up now i would say..Just to be safe. How big a stash is adequate is the question!
 
therealdlg said:
Agreed! Stock up now i would say..Just to be safe. How big a stash is adequate is the question!
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I settled on five years as my comfort level. I use strictly Tirzepatide and am nearing my goal weight but I will use it until I die. I have TR-60 kits that I will replace as I go through each one. I have a manual freezer (non self defrosting) and figure based on the limited degradation mentioned by Janoshik those kits will work like new for at least that long.
 
spanky2026 said:
Important line is at the end, where it says if a patient acquires and administers themselves, risk is the patients....as it has always been. This doesn't actually change anything.
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right like this just limits the online telehealth/pharmacies from selling tirz and sema via a "doctor's prescription" right? a doctor can't even "prescribe" something like KLOW as its not a pharmaceutical. that's what my understanding was
 
Um.ok.fine said:
right like this just limits the online telehealth/pharmacies from selling tirz and sema via a "doctor's prescription" right? a doctor can't even "prescribe" something like KLOW as its not a pharmaceutical. that's what my understanding was
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I don't believe it limits compounded meds, as tirz and sema are FDA approved and they come from a regulated compounding pharmacy (yes, of course the issue of ANY compounding pharm doing sema or tirz is a separate issue). Otherwise compounding pharmacies couldn't compound ANYTHING here. I haven't seen any of the telehealths suddenly pulling out of Alabama, and this news broke weeks ago.
 
Habibibi said:
Weird law, how is it stricter than the federal law? It feels like several politicians got paid off to not do much, really.
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It basically means the state will enforce federal law. They will go after any companies/providers/vendors inside their jurisdiction (state lines) if they sell nonprescription peptides.

The state does not have any control over CBP inspections of overseas deliveries. They don't decide what is FDA approved. The new law doesn't really give them many new powers that they didn't have before.

So yeah I agree with you, it's a political circle jerk, like when they try to ban anything else (pr0n, gats, games, window tint, radar detectors, weed, immigrant labor, piracy, fake handbags, etc) They always talk a big game and they always fail.

I'm not terribly concerned about the law itself, so much as I'm worried about the corrupt reasons for the government to pass it.
 
mybodyisasewer said:
It basically means the state will enforce federal law. They will go after any companies/providers/vendors inside their jurisdiction (state lines) if they sell nonprescription peptides.

The state does not have any control over CBP inspections of overseas deliveries. They don't decide what is FDA approved. The new law doesn't really give them many new powers that they didn't have before.

So yeah I agree with you, it's a political circle jerk, like when they try to ban anything else (pr0n, gats, games, window tint, radar detectors, weed, immigrant labor, piracy, fake handbags, etc) They always talk a big game and they always fail.

I'm not terribly concerned about the law itself, so much as I'm worried about the corrupt reasons for the government to pass it.
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What about the part about the patient?

In circumstances where a patient independently acquires and self-administers such substances, the associated risk rests solely with the patient
 
New2ton said:
Yeah, that's so weird. I wasn't aware that there were doctors out there actually prescribing "grey market" peptides.
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There isn't. My Dr. prescribes my Tirz. We discuss grey stuff, but he doesn't (cannot) prescribe it, and he doesn't ask me to take it. I don't see much changing. It's possible that the FDA bans compounding of Tirz and Semaglutide, but the grey stuff is unregulated, I don't see what they can do about it except for make more people want to take it.
 
Some chiros and health spas give sell grey market peptides to their customers.
The customer has to sign a waiver indicating they know it is for research only use and not to hold the chiro or health spa responsible. Perhaps some small independent doctor's clinics do this as well.

This bill is, I do believe, is to stop that very practice.
 
therealdlg said:
Agreed! Stock up now i would say..Just to be safe. How big a stash is adequate is the question!
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@Airborne Daddy once said "Ten years max dose or gtfo." I laughed, thinking that sounded like so much. And then proceeded to slowly amass ten years max dose of tirz. And five of reta.
 
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