Anyone here get sick from peps?

[Shittersfull]

I'm wondering if anyone has gotten sick. I see a lot of talk abaut endotoxins. And some people don't filter. I'm wondering what are the symptoms? How long does it take? What should you do, if you get sick? Did anyone get sick even know they filter?

 

[BNLFL]

Nope, all Reta from a few different suppliers I use.

 

[eidos]

You can get sick from an overdose. Last year, there were 18,000 reported cases in the U.S. among users of brand-name pens.

Cases of endotoxins in batches from direct sellers in China are very rare. I've seen two or three come up over the past year, and people are still discussing them on the forum. The community handles these alerts very effectively. Just don't buy your peptides in a parking lot.

Ask an AI to compare reactions at the injection site, particularly when the solution is hypotonic, with reactions to endotoxins and live bacteria.

You’ll see many posts in this forum about immediate reactions, such as redness and itching, which last only a few tens of minutes. There are ways to address this, such as adding NaCl, diluting the solution further, using the right needle size, etc.

The reaction to endotoxins occurs after one or more hours and can last two or three days if the body is able to eliminate them. Sometimes there is a fever. Sometimes the symptoms worsen, requiring a doctor’s visit.

When I start a new batch, I do a test with a small amount. Reactions to endotoxins depend on how much was injected, your weight, and the health of your immune system. It’s important to know that during a diet, the human body goes into starvation mode, and the immune system becomes overactive (to ensure the survival of the species; the opposite happens in rats, which reproduce more than usual).

After three months, dozens of injections, and three different vendors, I haven't had any problems. It's not enough yet for me to draw any statistically significant conclusions, but it's encouraging, especially since it's consistent with what other users have reported.

 

[Chili777]

Endotoxin Calculator

The math isn’t complex, but for those of you who don’t want to do the conversions or want a quick check, here’s an endotoxin calculator I ran across that was posted in Telegram last weekend. It takes the total endos per vial, peptide mass, your dosage, and your weight and compares it to the FDA...

glp1forum.com

 

[staffn1]

Are you asking about grey, compounded or from name brand? Because people get sick (if we are meaning nasty side effects) all the time on the later.

 

[Shittersfull]

You can get sick from an overdose. Last year, there were 18,000 reported cases in the U.S. among users of brand-name pens.

Cases of endotoxins in batches from direct sellers in China are very rare. I've seen two or three come up over the past year, and people are still discussing them on the forum. The community handles these alerts very effectively. Just don't buy your peptides in a parking lot.

Ask an AI to compare reactions at the injection site, particularly when the solution is hypotonic, with reactions to endotoxins and live bacteria.

You’ll see many posts in this forum about immediate reactions, such as redness and itching, which last only a few tens of minutes. There are ways to address this, such as adding NaCl, diluting the solution further, using the right needle size, etc.

The reaction to endotoxins occurs after one or more hours and can last two or three days if the body is able to eliminate them. Sometimes there is a fever. Sometimes the symptoms worsen, requiring a doctor’s visit.

When I start a new batch, I do a test with a small amount. Reactions to endotoxins depend on how much was injected, your weight, and the health of your immune system. It’s important to know that during a diet, the human body goes into starvation mode, and the immune system becomes overactive (to ensure the survival of the species; the opposite happens in rats, which reproduce more than usual).

After three months, dozens of injections, and three different vendors, I haven't had any problems. It's not enough yet for me to draw any statistically significant conclusions, but it's encouraging, especially since it's consistent with what other users have reported.

Very helpful. Thank you.

 

[skaylife]

3 days heavy diarrhea after 2 weeks of Reta use. Reta wasn't good for me. No problems at all with Tirz. It was not a sickness because of bacteria or endotoxins.

 

[FartfulCodger]

Haven't gotten sick yet. With a new kit, ALWAYS give yourself a microdose the day before you plan to start at your official dose. If you have an adverse reaction, toss the kit.

 

[miameow]

Not sure if it counts as being sick, but I had multiple loose stools per day on reta for the entire six months I was on it. My reta was independently tested for m/p/e and filtered by me, so it wasn't a quality issue. Everything stopped as soon as I quit reta; all good now.

Also, NAD+ always makes me feel a bit light-headed and weird: never pleasant. I do have an MTHFR gene mutation and take methylated vitamins/methyl donors, so I’m not sure why it's not helping, but NAD+ has never agreed with me. 5-Amino-1MQ gives me a similar feeling, though not as bad as NAD+.

Finally, GHK-Cu in Klow was the toughest one. My ISR was really bad, like a bee sting that would last for days, and I couldn't do anything until I started using epi/lido. Then it finally went away after I changed two things: first, I filtered it, which reduced the pain; then I added GHK Basic, which eliminated the pain entirely.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

3 days heavy diarrhea after 2 weeks of Reta use. Reta wasn't good for me. No problems at all with Tirz. It was not a sickness because of bacteria or endotoxins.

Reta always gives me diarrhea for a little while, yet I continue to use it 😅🤣😍

 

[davefromfv]

I'm wondering if anyone has gotten sick. I see a lot of talk abaut endotoxins. And some people don't filter. I'm wondering what are the symptoms? How long does it take? What should you do, if you get sick? Did anyone get sick even know they filter?

Filtering does nothing at all for endoxins. Just for sterility.

 

[Shittersfull]

Filtering does nothing at all for endoxins. Just for sterility.

I did not know that, thank you.

 

[skaylife]

Reta always gives me diarrhea for a little while, yet I continue to use it 😅🤣😍

It was more than just diarrhea mate. Colour of my excrement was almost white and felt really sick. Switching back to Tirz has solved the problem. I should also not give it up just for a while diarrhea. I don't claim that Reta is not good. But It was not meant for me. At the moment I am 4kg under my goal weight and dealing with last 1kg of belly fat. So I don't regret my decision.

By the way, switching to Reta was also just out of curiosity, trying something else, which was not a right decision. Just learned it through bad experience.

 

[Shittersfull]

I did not know that, thank you.

I'm thinking about this more... it seams like quite a few people in group buys do not care about endotoxins. I must have assumed, that filtering removed them.why do some people not care about endotoxins, if filters don't remove them, and they can make you sick?

 

[Skidude]

I'm thinking about this more... it seams like quite a few people in group buys do not care about endotoxins. I must have assumed, that filtering removed them.why do some people not care about endotoxins, if filters don't remove them, and they can make you sick?

There was a recent interview with Peter Magic, Janoshik; he stated that historically endotoxins had not been present and until recently most times they were tested for they were fine.
Recently he had multiple failures with them and stated although most were at the pre-distribution level by distributors looking for new sources, he could no longer totally rule out the possibility of them being an issue.

you might be able to find the interview through google

There is a newer one than this after the latest Endotoxin scares-
EDIT adding an older video when he was seeing much less endotoxin issues about 16:10

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Are you asking about grey, compounded or from name brand? Because people get sick (if we are meaning nasty side effects) all the time on the later.

I miss being nauseous a few days.... now i bang 9mg reta and 9mg tirz and nothing...

 

[Shittersfull]

There was a recent interview with Peter Magic, Janoshik; he stated that historically endotoxins had not been present and until recently most times they were tested for they were fine.
Recently he had multiple failures with them and stated although most were at the pre-distribution level by distributors looking for new sources, he could no longer totally rule out the possibility of them being an issue.

you might be able to find the interview through google

There is a newer one than this after the latest Endotoxin scares-
EDIT adding an older video when he was seeing much less endotoxin issues about 16:10

Thank you. I will watch this now.