China Based Chemical Companies Indicted for Alleged Fentanyl Manufacturing and Distribution

[geoguy78]

Looks like at least one of our peptide vendors made the list.... Can't say I'm surprised, this is probably fairly common.

China-Based Chemical Manufacturing Companies and Employees Indicted for Alleged Fentanyl Manufacturing and Distribution

Today, the Justice Department announced the unsealing of indictments against eight China-based chemical companies and eight employees charging federal crimes, including attempted distribution of synthetic opioids and precursor chemicals used in the production of fentanyl, and money laundering...

www.justice.gov

 

[skunknuts]

Same as SRY?

 

[geoguy78]

Same as SRY?

We have a winner

 

[clayd]

Well shit I'm mad I gave them my business now
Maybe that's how they manage such low prices 😬

Wonder if we should nuke them from the vendor section @ZippityDooDah

 

[geoguy78]

Well shit I'm mad I gave them my business now
Maybe that's how they manage such low prices 😬

Wonder if we should nuke them from the vendor section @ZippityDooDah

They definitely won't be getting my business. Not just because of my moral qualms (I've lost two family members to fentanyl), but because I'd want degrees of separation from that kind of thing, and I imagine customs might be putting more effort into rooting their shipments out. Reading the indictment, it sounded just like a GLP sales transaction 😳

 

[beefsteak]

Oh hell no. Imagine Tirz getting accidentally laced with something stronger than fent.

Protonitazene is estimated to be around 3 times more potent than fentanyl, though precise comparisons vary because protonitazene's effects are less studied. Fentanyl is already about 50 times stronger than heroin and 100 times stronger than morphine, so even slight differences in potency with substances like protonitazene can significantly raise overdose risks.

Because of this extreme potency, even small doses of protonitazene can lead to fatal respiratory depression, making it exceptionally dangerous when mixed with other substances or used unknowingly.

 

[DwightTheDelight]

I feel responsible for this. My last 3 transactions -

1.Aminos research two days before zips post warning about them
2.Nexa right before the sterility debate blew up
3.And Sry late last week

I'll warn everyone about the next company I decide to use so you all can avoid them.

 

[beefsteak]

Are there kits we can swab to test for opioid contamination?

 

[Yay-Z1]

Looks like at least one of our peptide vendors made the list.... Can't say I'm surprised, this is probably fairly common.

China-Based Chemical Manufacturing Companies and Employees Indicted for Alleged Fentanyl Manufacturing and Distribution

Today, the Justice Department announced the unsealing of indictments against eight China-based chemical companies and eight employees charging federal crimes, including attempted distribution of synthetic opioids and precursor chemicals used in the production of fentanyl, and money laundering...

www.justice.gov

That’s wild

 

[geoguy78]

Are there kits we can swab to test for opioid contamination?

I'll bet the risk is low, I'm sure the narcotics aren't being put into vials, but it does make you wonder what substances are sharing the same equipment....

 

[Laxfinity]

They definitely won't be getting my business. Not just because of my moral qualms (I've lost two family members to fentanyl), but because I'd want degrees of separation from that kind of thing, and I imagine customs might be putting more effort into rooting their shipments out. Reading the indictment, it sounded just like a GLP sales transaction 😳

I am so sorry for your loss. My boys are sick and tired of me warning about fentanyl. I tell them not to even take an ibuprofen from someone at this point. My oldest just went off to college and thankfully only drinks because he is an athlete. It is so scary...

 

[skunknuts]

Alan seems pretty adept at consumer relations, will be something to see him try to handle how this is about to blow up on their servers. Wonder if their recent shipping debacles have anything to with this.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

SRY already earned a spot on my extensive list of vendors I'd never buy from after the altered test result came up a few weeks back. They also have some pretty unprofessional reps and some history of one of their reps leaving for another company and delivering crap products on the way out the door. But this latest development really takes this to a new level.

 

[skunknuts]

SRY already earned a spot on my extensive list of vendors I'd never buy from after the altered test result came up a few weeks back. They also have some pretty unprofessional reps and some history of one of their reps leaving for another company and delivering crap products on the way out the door. But this latest development really takes this to a new level.

Will also look good in an EL press release to scare the masses.

 

[LogLog]

Would a Jano test pick this up?

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

Would a Jano test pick this up?

You mean if it's contaminated with fentanyl? Nope. Unless you specifically tested for fentanyl that is.

My understanding is that the process for synthesizing peptides is very different than opioids though so I think the odds of cross contaminated peptides still seems low.

 

[JYo000]

SRY already earned a spot on my extensive list of vendors I'd never buy from after the altered test result came up a few weeks back.

I'm waiting on tirz & cagri from SRY. I didn't hear about the altered test result! Where can I find that info?
Never again, not with this shit going on.

 

[JYo000]

I feel responsible for this. My last 3 transactions -

1.Aminos research two days before zips post warning about them
2.Nexa right before the sterility debate blew up
3.And Sry late last week

I'll warn everyone about the next company I decide to use so you all can avoid them.

Oh, Dwight. I love the humor you bring to this forum.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

I'm waiting on tirz & cagri from SRY. I didn't hear about the altered test result! Where can I find that info?
Never again, not with this shit going on.

Post in thread 'SRY Tirz 30 mg Promotion'

Sep 28, 2024

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@Shanghai Senria users have reported that the test report you posted was altered and not the genuine original. Altering/falsifying/forging test results is unacceptable from any vendor or supplier. Please explain yourself.

For those interested, this is the original unaltered report:

The link to the original at Jano's site is: https://www.janoshik.com/tests/46855_SBHK9KVZMC8A

• ZippityDooDah

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Note that this doesn't mean there was an issue with the product in this particular case. But once a vendor starts messing with the very small number of checks we have to keep us safe, I'm done with them for good.

 

[GimmeABreak]

I literally received a shipment from SRY today.

 

[JYo000]

Note that this doesn't mean there was an issue with the product in this particular case. But once a vendor starts messing with the very small number of checks we have to keep us safe, I'm done with them for good.

Thanks for linking that. I totally agree!
On top of this, their communication the last week about orders delayed in customs has been terrible. I can assume the delay is because they are being heavily scrutinized due to the indictment.

 

[HoneyBeez]

I wonder if the fentanyl testing strips u can purchase even pick up these precursors. 🤔

 

[beefsteak]

Thanks for linking that. I totally agree!
On top of this, their communication the last week about orders delayed in customs has been terrible. I can assume the delay is because they are being heavily scrutinized due to the indictment.

I doubt they're using any identifiable information on their return address while selling illegal drugs.

 

[noteablequotable]

They definitely won't be getting my business. Not just because of my moral qualms (I've lost two family members to fentanyl), but because I'd want degrees of separation from that kind of thing, and I imagine customs might be putting more effort into rooting their shipments out. Reading the indictment, it sounded just like a GLP sales transaction 😳

I wonder if this will result in more scrutiny of packages coming from these suppliers to the US. Could impact our ability to receive peptides if authorities are worried that we're actually receiving fentanyl.

 

[clayd]

You just know they're probably supplying a number of the compounding pharmacies as well, this is a real bad deal

 

[clevesand]

I don't know much about Crypto, but if the feds discovered the owner through the Crypto wallet that does not sound as discreet as most people believe crypto is. Scary to think the feds could have everyones info that sent them money.

This also blows up my theory that nobody we're buying from is actually manufacturing anything themselves.

 

[fetefille]

“In June, Shanghai Senria New Materials Co. Ltd., doing business as Shanghai Senria Biotechnology Co. Ltd., based in the Fengxian District of Shanghai, China, was charged with attempted importation of protonitazene and attempted international money laundering, along with Zhenbo Han, a Chinese national, who was the alleged holder of the Bitcoin wallet associated with the company.”

I read their indictment, they’re being indicted for trafficking a chemical that can be used to make fentanyl. And in fact, the exact chem didn’t become finalized sched 1 until April 11, the WhatsApp convo used therein happened April 26th. Also, they tried to purchase many things from them and were told they didn’t deal in them. One curious thing, in the last convo, the rep asked them not to send payment until he could confirm the btc address was correct *after* work…? Then gave another, entirely different one. Seems like that’d be something you could confirm during work, but idk. Makes me wonder if 1/2 of them are scheming & the others aren’t. I guess we’ll see.

Not saying they’re *not* shady af, just laying out what I got from reading it.*

* law degree rec’d from LA Law and Law & Order

 

[DwightTheDelight]

I don't know much about Crypto, but if the feds discovered the owner through the Crypto wallet that does not sound as discreet as most people believe crypto is. Scary to think the feds could have everyones info that sent them money.

This also blows up my theory that nobody we're buying from is actually manufacturing anything themselves.

This is what I'm thinking.

I wish we could get stickied posts of every controversial thing a company has done (and the company's response) at the top of every individual company's vendor thread. I personally wouldn't have ordered from sry if I knew about the recent test altering. I feel like I live on this site and still missed it.

 

[nonyabizznez]

"in June"

That's what stuck out to me.

 

[Graymaxxem]

Fentanyl test strips are available on Amazon.
Testyourdrugs.com if you're in Canada.
I'm not particularly worried, but then, Sry isn't on my (very) short list.

 

[scarywood75]

I'll bet the risk is low, I'm sure the narcotics aren't being put into vials, but it does make you wonder what substances are sharing the same equipment....

I'm still pretty sure both type of raws are received and stored in the same shelves and we know labelling mistakes can happen...

 

[noteablequotable]

I don't know much about Crypto, but if the feds discovered the owner through the Crypto wallet that does not sound as discreet as most people believe crypto is. Scary to think the feds could have everyones info that sent them money.

This also blows up my theory that nobody we're buying from is actually manufacturing anything themselves.

Crypto is not discreet at all. A quick Google will provide plenty of examples of people being connected to their transaction activity and going to jail.

 

[Graymaxxem]

I've only seen a few bad mix ups, the worst being a vendor substituting sema for tirz, which of course made several people violently ill, since you take much smaller doses of sema than tirz.

I'm still pretty sure both type of raws are received and stored in the same shelves and we know labelling mistakes can happen...

Also, not trying to be a jerk, genuinely curious how you know this level of detail about Chinese chemical manufacturing

 

[scarywood75]

I've only seen a few bad mix ups, the worst being a vendor substituting sema for tirz, which of course made several people violently ill, since you take much smaller doses of sema than tirz.

Also, not trying to be a jerk, genuinely curious how you know this level of detail about Chinese chemical manufacturing

I don't know, sorry that might not have been clear, but I'm mostly speculating about that because I used to work in manufacturing

Being the fact it's gray market, they don't get audited by proper authorities and people running these businesses might not always have the proper knowledge or want to apply proper standards and procedure

I've had some sneak peaks, but not any firm proof of anything I'm speculating about

 

[scarywood75]

I'm fairly confident a mix up like that couldn't happen with a FDA regulated lab/pharmacy

 

[beefsteak]

SRY undercut GYC by $20 in the recent GB and GYC leaked this indictment

Over $20

 

[scarywood75]

SRY undercut GYC by $20 in the recent GB and GYC leaked this indictment

Over $20

I think vendors are running on tighter profit margin at the moment to try and get more of the market

 

[moonpies4misfits]

Fentanyl test strips are available on Amazon.
Testyourdrugs.com if you're in Canada.
I'm not particularly worried, but then, Sry isn't on my (very) short list.

Those wont test for protonitazene though. Still not a bad idea to get them in general.

 

[mostlydamp]

Crypto is not discreet at all. A quick Google will provide plenty of examples of people being connected to their transaction activity and going to jail.

Crypto can be discreet if you look into it. You would have to obtain crypto without KYC and to a wallet that hasn't had other transactions. You can look up a lot of stuff about getting anonymous crypto.

 

[scarywood75]

Crypto can be discreet if you look into it. You would have to obtain crypto without KYC and to a wallet that hasn't had other transactions. You can look up a lot of stuff about getting anonymous crypto.

Still even, unless you used a mixer that hasn't been breached yet (you usually don't know).

But none of this matter, I don't think feds will go to that extent to arrest peptide buyers

 

[Tzelle]

SRY undercut GYC by $20 in the recent GB and GYC leaked this indictment

Over $20

But that is 20 x everyone ordering so that can be big money still.

 

[clayd]

I'm fairly confident a mix up like that couldn't happen with a FDA regulated lab/pharmacy

Lol

 

[scarywood75]

Lol

Yeah, maybe not impossible aha, but less likely

 

[noteablequotable]

Crypto can be discreet if you look into it. You would have to obtain crypto without KYC and to a wallet that hasn't had other transactions. You can look up a lot of stuff about getting anonymous crypto.

I know, but most people don't do that. It takes a lot of work and you need to be very careful to keep everything separate. It also only takes one mistake to mess up everything.

 

[clayd]

Yeah, maybe not impossible aha, but less likely

I understand your point but the compounding pharmacies have been technically following FDA regs and I don't know if it's on this forum, but in that other social media site people here don't like, it's a fkn circus at these places. Credit cards hacked, orders delayed by weeks, orders arriving frozen, people receiving the same Rx from two pharmacies (only charged once), now people are complaining their new shipment of tirz isn't as effective, they think it's off somehow, there was one case where the vial injector was underfilling the third vial only, one time where the pharmacy shipped product chilled by literal otterpops...
FDA regulated pharmacies

 

[noteablequotable]

I understand your point but the compounding pharmacies have been technically following FDA regs and I don't know if it's on this forum, but in that other social media site people here don't like, it's a fkn circus at these places. Credit cards hacked, orders delayed by weeks, orders arriving frozen, people receiving the same Rx from two pharmacies (only charged once), now people are complaining their new shipment of tirz isn't as effective, they think it's off somehow, there was one case where the vial injector was underfilling the third vial only, one time where the pharmacy shipped product chilled by literal otterpops...
FDA regulated pharmacies

Yikes! Some of those people would be better off buying from the grey market.

 

[clayd]

Yikes! Some of those people would be better off buying from the grey market.

The old joke is that regulators show up when it's time to draw the chalk line around the body

 

[clayd]

My personal favorite is that one place will open a 10-pack of syringes and send you 4-5 unpackaged, individual syringes that match your dosing schedule. Like how is that ok? Just single, open syringes in your shipment

 

[scarywood75]

I understand your point but the compounding pharmacies have been technically following FDA regs and I don't know if it's on this forum, but in that other social media site people here don't like, it's a fkn circus at these places. Credit cards hacked, orders delayed by weeks, orders arriving frozen, people receiving the same Rx from two pharmacies (only charged once), now people are complaining their new shipment of tirz isn't as effective, they think it's off somehow, there was one case where the vial injector was underfilling the third vial only, one time where the pharmacy shipped product chilled by literal otterpops...
FDA regulated pharmacies

Yeah, you're right, I feel like even compound may not follow the rules either. I'm in Canada and here there's no such things

You're right that it does not really seem to be better with compound, what about name brand?

 

[clayd]

I think name brand is ok. My understanding is that they source their chemicals from a company in Sweden or something like that, and of course they will have a high standard for purity, sterility.