Tracy gone MIA?

stickfigure said:
Check the seizure reports. Plenty of peptides being seized, for example BPC157. Recent Ohio seizure is another example. But this time around it sounds like entire forwarder lines got busted with huge losses of shipped orders and bad prospects of reships making it to destination.

If customs situation doesn't change for the better (and there is no reason for it), I think we are witnessing the end of the era of cheap peptides.
There will still be supply to meet the demand, but new risks will be priced in either directly or indirectly.
* GB and US domestic prices will go up.
* Vendors will stop offering reships, which is already common for destinations like Canada and Australia.
* We will likely see more scams in general and exit scams specifically since without reliable forwarder lines it's difficult for vendors to build reputation and less incentive to do so instead of running periodic scams and coming back under new names with low prices to attract new buyers.
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Regarding your last point. That is exactly how the online drug trade has worked for the last 15 years. The biggest market either exit scams or gets busted, the next one takes its place until the cycle repeats a couple years down the line. Yet despite the increased law enforcement efforts drugs are cheaper and more accessible than ever. Long term supply will always meet demand.
 
The actual meats and potatos of Chinese new year will be tomorrow and Wednesday. Tomorrow will be the last day of the lunar year and Wednesday will the new year. We could see Tracy as soon as Friday. If he doesn't show up by next Friday it's 100% over.
 
beefsteak said:
The actual meats and potatos of Chinese new year will be tomorrow and Wednesday. Tomorrow will be the last day of the lunar year and Wednesday will the new year. We could see Tracy as soon as Friday. If he doesn't show up by next Friday it's 100% over.
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This is all because he called you fishsteak, isn't it?
 
geoguy78 said:
This is all because he called you fishsteak, isn't it?
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brentm said:
How do they know they're peptides? Have you ordered from QSC? You get beauty product packaging and basically have to match your products with numbering given to you in an email which is likely also your tracking data.

You think US Customs is HPLC scanning powders that say they're skin products?
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They have the Gemini, if it is in the unit's database it will identify the substance. The question is Tirz, Sema, Reta in the database today and if not, will it be added in the future.

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GimmeABreak said:
They have the Gemini, if it is in the unit's database it will identify the substance. The question is Tirz, Sema, Reta in the database today and if not, will it be added in the future.

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Also an HPLC test isn't required to identify peptides. mass spec is much simpler and cheaper way to identify unknown powders.
 
GimmeABreak said:
They have the Gemini, if it is in the unit's database it will identify the substance. The question is Tirz, Sema, Reta in the database today and if not, will it be added in the future.

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On the one hand, I feel like they don't scan for most meds. On the other, these are a huge deal right now and Big Pharma (tm) probably wants a smack down. I'm glad I stocked up, even if it was a stupid panic buy. I'm still debating buying more, but that doesn't seem smart unless I also buy one of the heavy duty deep freezers. I have enough to make it to the next administration; but I also anticipate needing these medications for life.
 
chmuse said:
On the one hand, I feel like they don't scan for most meds. On the other, these are a huge deal right now and Big Pharma (tm) probably wants a smack down. I'm glad I stocked up, even if it was a stupid panic buy. I'm still debating buying more, but that doesn't seem smart unless I also buy one of the heavy duty deep freezers. I have enough to make it to the next administration; but I also anticipate needing these medications for life.
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I just bought another year of reta just in case.
 
zpped said:
I just bought another year of reta just in case.
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Nexa has a glow kit up I'm considering. My hesitation there is if I understand correctly, it's very hard to test mixes and the appeal of Nexa to me is the extensive testing.

I have enough sema for years and two tirz30 kits for if sema stops working. Was going to wait on reta prices to go back down.... I'm going to stick to that plan unless amo comes back, I think. I'm 90% sure they're a manufacturer so I feel a little safer buying from them right now. Otherwise I'll join PGB since they're so highly regarded. The next few days is enough time for me to deal with figuring out crypto anyway. If I yank out my old hard drives I might be able to get back into my old wallet which would make the kits free..... Right? ✨Girl Math✨
 
chmuse said:
Nexa has a glow kit up I'm considering. My hesitation there is if I understand correctly, it's very hard to test mixes and the appeal of Nexa to me is the extensive testing.

I have enough sema for years and two tirz30 kits for if sema stops working. Was going to wait on reta prices to go back down.... I'm going to stick to that plan unless amo comes back, I think. I'm 90% sure they're a manufacturer so I feel a little safer buying from them right now. Otherwise I'll join PGB since they're so highly regarded. The next few days is enough time for me to deal with figuring out crypto anyway. If I yank out my old hard drives I might be able to get back into my old wallet which would make the kits free..... Right? ✨Girl Math✨
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Amo Whatsapp'd me when I contacted them. I believe Amo is going to be back. It's easy to get paranoid about there not being vendors during the Chinese New Year when we don't hear thema ll the time.
 
chmuse said:
Nexa has a glow kit up I'm considering. My hesitation there is if I understand correctly, it's very hard to test mixes and the appeal of Nexa to me is the extensive testing.

I have enough sema for years and two tirz30 kits for if sema stops working. Was going to wait on reta prices to go back down.... I'm going to stick to that plan unless amo comes back, I think. I'm 90% sure they're a manufacturer so I feel a little safer buying from them right now. Otherwise I'll join PGB since they're so highly regarded. The next few days is enough time for me to deal with figuring out crypto anyway. If I yank out my old hard drives I might be able to get back into my old wallet which would make the kits free..... Right? ✨Girl Math✨
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PGB is my goto for peptides other than glps. (their glps are good but much more expensive than the going rate) but everything else they have is much more competitively priced.
 
stickfigure said:
If customs situation doesn't change for the better (and there is no reason for it), I think we are witnessing the end of the era of cheap peptides.
There will still be supply to meet the demand, but new risks will be priced in either directly or indirectly.
* GB and US domestic prices will go up.
* Vendors will stop offering reships, which is already common for destinations like Canada and Australia.
* We will likely see more scams in general and exit scams specifically since without reliable forwarder lines it's difficult for vendors to build reputation and less incentive to do so instead of running periodic scams and coming back under new names with low prices to attract new buyers
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Exactly this.

I am pretty sure my last order was confiscated. And, my supplier has gone dark.

Multiple people here have said they think there are just a few producers and multiple finishers and resellers. After all my digging, I believe I concur with that assessment. The forwarding lines is going to be the kicker.

I have about six months before I have to make a decision about where to find a new tracy.
 
stickfigure said:
Check the seizure reports. Plenty of peptides being seized, for example BPC157. Recent Ohio seizure is another example. But this time around it sounds like entire forwarder lines got busted with huge losses of shipped orders and bad prospects of reships making it to destination.

If customs situation doesn't change for the better (and there is no reason for it), I think we are witnessing the end of the era of cheap peptides.
There will still be supply to meet the demand, but new risks will be priced in either directly or indirectly.
* GB and US domestic prices will go up.
* Vendors will stop offering reships, which is already common for destinations like Canada and Australia.
* We will likely see more scams in general and exit scams specifically since without reliable forwarder lines it's difficult for vendors to build reputation and less incentive to do so instead of running periodic scams and coming back under new names with low prices to attract new buyers.
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It’s easy to envision the end of cheap peptides while our vendors are gone. However we were seeing in January the cheapest prices we had yet seen.
 
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