GROUP BUY CAUTION!!!

[ZippityDooDah]

As some of you may know, there are several "group buy" Discord servers and Facebook groups popping up recently offering some really attractive bulk pricing over a limited time/supply.

First and foremost, please understand that most of these groups are for-profit and are really just vendors pursuing a "group buy" offering concept instead of doing their own branding, having a website, paying for their own testing, etc.

Most importantly, no matter how great a deal one of these "buys" may seem to be, you should give serious consideration to WHO is running the group and if they can be TRUSTED. A short time ago, one of the people operating one of these group sales began doxxing buyers, full name, address, email, etc. So you really have to consider if agreeing to buy peptides from a random person on the internet offering attractive prices through a "group buy" is worth having your personal information revealed publicly. There are also people being ghosted and banned after paying for their purchase.

Right now, the only GB ("group buy") server I'm comfortable recommending is PGB run by jlo. If you don't know what that means, then you have more work to do as participants have to meet a certain level of knowledge and understanding to be invited to join. But, suffice it to say that if you hear of or are invited to any other group that I would recommend avoiding it!

Oh, and the GB's being offered by QSC are ok in my book as well.

There are some really sketchy people out there trying to take advantage of people's desperation to buy their GLP-1's and other peptides at the best discount possible, and sadly a lot of innocent people have fallen victim to scammers. Please don't be one of them!

 

[Letits Now]

I wondered about some of these other ones popping here and there. Good to know that PGB is the gold standard. And I’m still a little too chicken to do that. Along with the stockpile I have right now.
And let me add that when Gronk says do your own research, it’s really the best way to go. Actually found Gronk in the now defunct tirzepatide reddit and he gave me a few bread crumbs and found all these other communities. I think by doing your own research you gain knowledge to help yourself and others in these communities as opposed to just being spoon fed everything.

 

[sf022754]

Current scams... Raven lied about the supplier for her GBs. One of her friends ordered a mass amount of kits from her GB at a discount and is now flipping them. JohnnyD running a GB saying he's making no profit, when the supplier offers commission for GBs. Other people starting group buys with suppliers that have 0 test results.

Be careful out there.

 

[Luluxoxo]

qsc just told me they’re only shipping from china now and the price is rough

 

[ZippityDooDah]

qsc just told me they’re only shipping from china now and the price is rough

What do you mean rough? Buying from the US warehouse (or any of the intl. warehouses) has always been more expensive than direct China, and looking at the current price list I don't see any change.

 

[FourthQuintile]

qsc just told me they’re only shipping from china now and the price is rough

Considering Tracy just posted on Meso that some amounts of sema and reta are now available domestic USA, I would recheck your contact and make sure you're messaging Tracy and not a scammer. The last price list I got from them less than 10 days ago had tirz available domestic USA as well, although it might be sold out. And generally on the cost, the shipping is higher than domestic, but the price is lower than domestic, and overall it almost always ends up as a lower total out of pocket price with them ordering from China instead of from domestic.

 

[Luluxoxo]

What do you mean rough? Buying from the US warehouse (or any of the intl. warehouses) has always been more expensive than direct China, and looking at the current price list I don't see any change.

“only can ship from china now
2 kits 685 usd” for 2 kits of tirz 15mg

 

[ZippityDooDah]

“only can ship from china now
2 kits 685 usd” for 2 kits of tirz 15mg

And if it was coming from the US warehouse it would have been $380x2+$10shipping=$770 so I'm still confused. Direct from China is $85 cheaper than if it could be shipped from US warehouse.

 

[Luluxoxo]

I usually get it for $330 from 2 other supplier. I guess I didn’t know the prices were much higher. Nevertheless, I’ll stick to the suppliers i’ve been ordering from

 

[gsogirl]

Current scams... Raven lied about the supplier for her GBs. One of her friends ordered a mass amount of kits from her GB at a discount and is now flipping them. JohnnyD running a GB saying he's making no profit, when the supplier offers commission for GBs. Other people starting group buys with suppliers that have 0 test results.

Be careful out there.

so not SPC? Hope no HT since they have orange cap 15 mg tirz too

 

[SRY Lab Lucy]

Think about SRY, dear, I can give you a quotation sheet! We are also certified by JANOSHIK Lab!

 

[ZippityDooDah]

We are also certified by JANOSHIK Lab!

Hi Lucy, I would suggest not saying that you are "certified" by Janoshik as they do not "certify" any companies, they simply report the results of products they test. @janoshik is a member here and would likely not want anyone confused to think that they are in the business of endorsing any specific company.

If I might suggest, the better phrase to use might be something like "Janoshik test results available to show product quality".

Thanks!

 

[Qingdao Sigma]

“only can ship from china now
2 kits 685 usd” for 2 kits of tirz 15mg

This simply means that the product you asked for is only available from China. But it doesn't mean that other versions are not available in USA warehouse, like 5mg; 10mg, and 40mg.
Now the 15mg is also back to US stock

 

[Qingdao Sigma]

I usually get it for $330 from 2 other supplier. I guess I didn’t know the prices were much higher. Nevertheless, I’ll stick to the suppliers i’ve been ordering from

Our tirz 15mg is $300/kit.

 

[Luluxoxo]

Our tirz 15mg is $300/kit.

Thank you for the clarification.

 

[SRY Lab Lucy]

OK

Hi Lucy, I would suggest not saying that you are "certified" by Janoshik as they do not "certify" any companies, they simply report the results of products they test. @janoshik is a member here and would likely not want anyone confused to think that they are in the business of endorsing any specific company.

If I might suggest, the better phrase to use might be something like "Janoshik test results available to show product quality".

Thanks!

，thank you，sir！

 

[Letits Now]

so not SPC? Hope no HT since they have orange cap 15 mg tirz too

Have you seen some of the HT tests? Not the greatest.

 

[Retrogirl]

I usually get it for $330 from 2 other supplier. I guess I didn’t know the prices were much higher. Nevertheless, I’ll stick to the suppliers i’ve been ordering from

How long does it take?

 

[ap1al2]

I usually get it for $330 from 2 other supplier. I guess I didn’t know the prices were much higher. Nevertheless, I’ll stick to the suppliers i’ve been ordering from

Who do you order from?

 

[AlexDavis43]

Who do you order from?

I'm new here. Is this a forum where shit like this is asked and answered openly? Or encourage DYOR/do your own research, learning the ropes, etc.

 

[MrsRoper_1977]

I'm new here. Is this a forum where shit like this is asked and answered openly? Or encourage DYOR/do your own research, learning the ropes, etc.

Yes. It’s an open dialogue here.

 

[catdog]

I'm new here. Is this a forum where shit like this is asked and answered openly? Or encourage DYOR/do your own research, learning the ropes, etc.

It's open for most any talk tbh. Non toxic

 

[smoochie]

As some of you may know, there are several "group buy" Discord servers and Facebook groups popping up recently offering some really attractive bulk pricing over a limited time/supply.

First and foremost, please understand that most of these groups are for-profit and are really just vendors pursuing a "group buy" offering concept instead of doing their own branding, having a website, paying for their own testing, etc.

Most importantly, no matter how great a deal one of these "buys" may seem to be, you should give serious consideration to WHO is running the group and if they can be TRUSTED. A short time ago, one of the people operating one of these group sales began doxxing buyers, full name, address, email, etc. So you really have to consider if agreeing to buy peptides from a random person on the internet offering attractive prices through a "group buy" is worth having your personal information revealed publicly. There are also people being ghosted and banned after paying for their purchase.

Right now, the only GB ("group buy") server I'm comfortable recommending is PGB run by jlo. If you don't know what that means, then you have more work to do as participants have to meet a certain level of knowledge and understanding to be invited to join. But, suffice it to say that if you hear of or are invited to any other group that I would recommend avoiding it!

Oh, and the GB's being offered by QSC are ok in my book as well.

There are some really sketchy people out there trying to take advantage of people's desperation to buy their GLP-1's and other peptides at the best discount possible, and sadly a lot of innocent people have fallen victim to scammers. Please don't be one

 

[smoochie]

Good to know, TY

 

[smoochie]

so not SPC? Hope no HT since they have orange cap 15 mg tirz too

I bought the orange cap 15mg from Raven also. Is that product ok? Still waiting on my Cagri from her, two months now. I will stick with PGB from now on

 

[gsogirl]

The orange cap tirz tested well. You are good on that one. Cagrilintide No clue...may appear or may have to wait a lot longer for a reship since wasn't moving from customs the past few days.

 

[donaru]

What about the other J? Any experience?

 

[KYRivianMan]

Who is PGB if I may ask…Thank you

 

[Deleted member 1393]

Current scams... Raven lied about the supplier for her GBs. One of her friends ordered a mass amount of kits from her GB at a discount and is now flipping them. JohnnyD running a GB saying he's making no profit, when the supplier offers commission for GBs. Other people starting group buys with suppliers that have 0 test results.

Be careful out there.

Was about to participate in a group buy with him has he at least been decent in a buy and received items ?

 

[Pharmgirl63]

How can I get an invite to jlo server? My most important factor in buying is safety/testing. Willing to pay more for that satisfaction

 

[Derby]

How can I get an invite to jlo server? My most important factor in buying is safety/testing. Willing to pay more for that satisfaction

It's a process!
There might be other avenues, but I joined the Peppys forum first, spent some time there reading and occasionally posting, then requested invites to the testing and gb servers. It's not automatic; there is literally a knowledge test you have to take to get in.

Things are in flux for a number of reasons right now, so they may not even be issuing invites at the moment; @ZippityDooDah probably has the latest information.

Either way, in spite of the absolutely horrendous UI, there's a ton of information to be had at Peppys, so I recommend joining there anyway. (You need this invite code.) https://chat.peppys.io/signup/fxBQ4K

 

[Pharmgirl63]

I’m on Peppys . Actually is how I got here. Got an invite to another server and did a buy there and met someone who suggested this forum. I filled out the form and was admitted to the sources discussion. So I’m getting there! Hoping my gb turnes up with good testing. Be a few weeks before I’ll know. Thanks for your response. That is exactly the correct advice!

 

[tirzy]

The orange cap tirz tested well. You are good on that one. Cagrilintide No clue...may appear or may have to wait a lot longer for a reship since wasn't moving from customs the past few days.

Just to clarify are you talking about the 15mg tirz orange cap from QSC? I’ve been searching for 3rd party test results for these and can’t seem to find anyone else even mentioning them

 

[KYRivianMan]

Have there been any further developments in the AC Peptides COA accusations? I have lost the discussion..

 

[PepOhio]

Have there been any further developments in the AC Peptides COA accusations? I have lost the discussion..

What is the AC Peptides COA accusations? Is this a new or old issue? Curious because I have ordered from them in the past and would like to read up on it and didn't see it when i did a quick search here and Peppy's

 

[sf022754]

I bought the orange cap 15mg from Raven also. Is that product ok? Still waiting on my Cagri from her, two months now. I will stick with PGB from now on

The orange caps are fine. Tested well. The issue is that SPC or Shanghai Nexa Pharma Co whatever is a made up company. The supplier is actually a user named Spicy Pri or Priscila.

Turns out this spicy pri is also selling reconstituted tirz, reta, and sema on the side under the "company" SPC as well. She sells to people on Reddit and Discord as far as we know.

We're working to get sterility testing on these products that she whips up in her kitchen.

 

[sf022754]

The orange caps are fine. Tested well. The issue is that SPC or Shanghai Nexa Pharma Co whatever is a made up company. The supplier is actually a user named Spicy Pri or Priscila.

Turns out this spicy pri is also selling reconstituted tirz, reta, and sema on the side under the "company" SPC as well. She sells to people on Reddit and Discord as far as we know.

We're working to get sterility testing on these products that she whips up in her kitchen.

 

[seanc34]

New to the group and the idea of a group buy is attractive. I saw QSC is doing one..

 

[zpped]

The orange caps are fine. Tested well. The issue is that SPC or Shanghai Nexa Pharma Co whatever is a made up company. The supplier is actually a user named Spicy Pri or Priscila.

Turns out this spicy pri is also selling reconstituted tirz, reta, and sema on the side under the "company" SPC as well. She sells to people on Reddit and Discord as far as we know.

We're working to get sterility testing on these products that she whips up in her kitchen.

Any update on this?

 

[seanc34]

Sent money in for a group buy a couple weeks ago...no confirmation from QSC. is this typical?

 

[Derby]

Sent money in for a group buy a couple weeks ago...no confirmation from QSC. is this typical?

Yes. They will send you a tracking number in a few days.

 

[TheNorthernDude]

One thing I’ll add, which I assume most people know, but be very cautious if they don’t allow payments that offer any buyer protection. Left a couple of discords because the only accepted GB payments were PayPal friends/family, Zelle, or crypto. Even offered to pay the extra fee but was told it would ruin their PayPal account.

 

[zpped]

One thing I’ll add, which I assume most people know, but be very cautious if they don’t allow payments that offer any buyer protection. Left a couple of discords because the only accepted GB payments were PayPal friends/family, Zelle, or crypto. Even offered to pay the extra fee but was told it would ruin their PayPal account.

They aren't wrong though. Receiving payments is the hardest part of all this. I can't imagine actually trying to use that buyer protection... The most reputable group is also crypto only

 

[TheNorthernDude]

They aren't wrong though. Receiving payments is the hardest part of all this. I can't imagine actually trying to use that buyer protection... The most reputable group is also crypto only

If it’s a well known reputable group that lessens the risk a little. But in one of the random popup groups like mentioned by OP, I’d be more cautious.

 

[Awesome24]

Purchased GLOW on a group buy and the Jano testing came back but only provided strength not purity. The strength was good but given that the testing was represented as including both strength and purity now I am not sure about the product. The COA has a QR code and I verified. The organizer said purity testing was another $400.00 dollars.

The manufacturer is Shanghai Nexa Pharmacy, is anyone familiar with this manufacturer? Is it reasonable to question why purity was not included? I’ve never seen that before.

 

[katwalking69]

Sent money in for a group buy a couple weeks ago...no confirmation from QSC. is this typical?

Yes. For me, the process has worked like this: I sent an email with my order and desired form of payment, the next day I receive an email back telling me where to send the $, I pay and send them confirmation of payment, the next day I receive an email asking me to confirm my address, I confirm the address, the next day I may receive an email that says OK or has a 🙂 and that’s it. They rarely send tracking numbers, usually you will receive your items before you get the tracking number. After 8-10 days you can request a tracking number, but if they’re in the middle of a lot of promos and GBs, you may not get a response. Depending on where everything is shipping from, it could be as little as a week or as much as a month before you receive your items.

 

[fieroscotty]

One thing I’ll add, which I assume most people know, but be very cautious if they don’t allow payments that offer any buyer protection. Left a couple of discords because the only accepted GB payments were PayPal friends/family, Zelle, or crypto. Even offered to pay the extra fee but was told it would ruin their PayPal account.

If you don’t use PayPal friends and family, it is taxable to the receiver if they get over a certain dollar amount per year. PayPal then reports it as income to the IRS.

 

[Uncle Bub]

Did anyone here get scammed by username Roach in the QSC discord group? Appears to have organized a big buy in their channel and has disappeared.

 

[zpped]

Did anyone here get scammed by username Roach in the QSC discord group? Appears to have organized a big buy in their channel and has disappeared.

For my one and only qsc order, fortunately i went with a different reshipper than Roach. But Roach had a good reputation in the discord.

 

[Drexeldragon216]

Did anyone here get scammed by username Roach in the QSC discord group? Appears to have organized a big buy in their channel and has disappeared.

I talked with this person a few times and was going to take part a while back but for some reason Crypto and the wallets is hard to wrap my head around so I ended up going w/ Amo for a few kits. I really hope you’re not left out in the cold on this one.