GROUP BUY CAUTION!!!

[moonpies4misfits]

See, reading all this makes me nervous to stray from my overpriced US vendors. Well I tried Nexaph for tirz and Reta, didn't get burned. But I want the GB discounts and group testing benefits, eventually I'll have to figure out this discord business.

Just wait till theres a good sale and buy directly from the vendor. It's not hard to find a group of people also buying from the same sale to coordinate a group test with.

 

[SassyPants]

Bought from 4 CN vendors so far and they all take credit cards...

Many will but you have to ask. ( This has been my experience in the past, anyway. )

 

[Sandwitch]

Bought from 4 CN vendors so far and they all take credit cards...

I haven’t seen any, unless you want to go through PayPal, Alibaba, or some other third party. I’ve looked mainly at QSC and a couple of others that are mentioned favorably in this forum. But if you say there are multitudes of Chinese vendors willing to take credit card, I’ll keep looking.

 

[scarywood75]

I haven’t seen any, unless you want to go through PayPal, Alibaba, or some other third party. I’ve looked mainly at QSC and a couple of others that are mentioned favorably in this forum. But if you say there are multitudes of Chinese vendors willing to take credit card, I’ll keep looking.

I mean, when you pay with your credit card, it always goes to a third party, unless you are Amazon or something, even if it's third party, what's the issue ?

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I haven’t seen any, unless you want to go through PayPal, Alibaba, or some other third party. I’ve looked mainly at QSC and a couple of others that are mentioned favorably in this forum. But if you say there are multitudes of Chinese vendors willing to take credit card, I’ll keep looking.

If you insist on paying directly from the vendor with a credit card and not on a third party marketplace then yes, you will not be buying overseas peptides (or almost anything from overseas), no need to continue your search.

You might get lucky and find an American pretending to be Chinese who will take your credit card, I can direct you to one I know of if that would meet the need.

 

[Sandwitch]

I get everyone's point about the relative ease of ordering from CN and I may eventually pull the trigger. But I am definitely not as adventurous as most people when it comes to financial transactions (I use credit cards exclusively) and social media stuff (basically reddit + peptide forums). I tend to stay off the grid as much as I can. But I do enjoy my peptides, so I have had to come out of my shell a little bit this year. I appreciate that people are willing to share their vendor experiences. It will definitely help when if I decide to go that route.

 

[GtownBrown]

As some of you may know, there are several "group buy" Discord servers and Facebook groups popping up recently offering some really attractive bulk pricing over a limited time/supply.

First and foremost, please understand that most of these groups are for-profit and are really just vendors pursuing a "group buy" offering concept instead of doing their own branding, having a website, paying for their own testing, etc.

Most importantly, no matter how great a deal one of these "buys" may seem to be, you should give serious consideration to WHO is running the group and if they can be TRUSTED. A short time ago, one of the people operating one of these group sales began doxxing buyers, full name, address, email, etc. So you really have to consider if agreeing to buy peptides from a random person on the internet offering attractive prices through a "group buy" is worth having your personal information revealed publicly. There are also people being ghosted and banned after paying for their purchase.

Right now, the only GB ("group buy") server I'm comfortable recommending is PGB run by jlo. If you don't know what that means, then you have more work to do as participants have to meet a certain level of knowledge and understanding to be invited to join. But, suffice it to say that if you hear of or are invited to any other group that I would recommend avoiding it!

Oh, and the GB's being offered by QSC are ok in my book as well.

There are some really sketchy people out there trying to take advantage of people's desperation to buy their GLP-1's and other peptides at the best discount possible, and sadly a lot of innocent people have fallen victim to scammers. Please don't be one of them!

I am out here trying not to get scammed, but it’s hard to know what you don’t know.

 

[Bacchus]

I am out here trying not to get scammed, but it’s hard to know what you don’t know.

Welcome to the black market (people like to call it grey, but I find that to be a coping thing for those who doesn't want to buy in the black market).

To be honest, if you read around a bit. You will notice a handful of vendors that are very likely to deliver what you pay for - though the process can be a bit uncomfortable

People just don't want to point you directly to one, because we can not give any guarantees - and don't want the responsibility of you getting done over somehow.

Then there are group buys, I don't know too much about them and I never will since it's not interesting to me. But basically, it's the same thing but with an extra link/buffer depending on how you look at it.

If the one doing the group buy has a good connection, you are sure to get the products, and they will be purity tested, for what that's worth. Or he's just skimming of the top in between and ordering from the cheapest source he can find.

So again, you need to find someone who has been around for a while and has decent feedback/reviews.

And if you don't want to sacrifice that time, then you either take or more risk or pay more

 

[tul9033]

I placed an order for several items with QSC on the last group. Sent the order email, asked for Bitcoin address, sent BC, they asked for confirmation #, sent that, got reply Ret was out of stock, asked for options, QSC replied Ret 15mg, I said OK, they replied BPC was out of stock. Now what?? Their replies take 24 hours and are in the middle of the night. Every time one issue is getting resolved another issue pops up. Now I'm not getting anything and they have my BC. All the while BC is going through the roof. I'm starting to feel like they've got my money and I'm getting nothing. How are they keeping track of money and orders?

 

[zpped]

I placed an order for several items with QSC on the last group. Sent the order email, asked for Bitcoin address, sent BC, they asked for confirmation #, sent that, got reply Ret was out of stock, asked for options, QSC replied Ret 15mg, I said OK, they replied BPC was out of stock. Now what?? Their replies take 24 hours and are in the middle of the night. Every time one issue is getting resolved another issue pops up. Now I'm not getting anything and they have my BC. All the while BC is going through the roof. I'm starting to feel like they've got my money and I'm getting nothing. How are they keeping track of money and orders?

At this point my sympathy for tracy problems are nil. It's plastered everywhere that when something goes wrong you're going to be unhappy with the process and resolution. You'll get something eventually or just ask for your bc back.

 

[Dee X]

I placed an order for several items with QSC on the last group. Sent the order email, asked for Bitcoin address, sent BC, they asked for confirmation #, sent that, got reply Ret was out of stock, asked for options, QSC replied Ret 15mg, I said OK, they replied BPC was out of stock. Now what?? Their replies take 24 hours and are in the middle of the night. Every time one issue is getting resolved another issue pops up. Now I'm not getting anything and they have my BC. All the while BC is going through the roof. I'm starting to feel like they've got my money and I'm getting nothing. How are they keeping track of money and orders?

You can always tag him in this forum. You get your issue resolved, we get free entertainment if you messed up somehow by accident.

 

[geoguy78]

Now I'm not getting anything and they have my BC. All the while BC is going through the roof.

Why are you paying with BTC? Way too volatile, anyone not using a stablecoin for these kind of purchases is crazy imo

 

[Doxyisfoxy]

Why are you paying with BTC? Way too volatile, anyone not using a stablecoin for these kind of purchases is crazy imo

I am in a similar boat to tul9033 with QSC except I didn’t send the BTC because (I learned) there is a long holding period after you buy BTC before you can send it. So it understandably went out of stock while waiting. I chose BTC because that is what they asked for but I noticed the volatility too. Can I ask what coin you use? And what app lets you send to China? I tried using PayPal crypto first for convenience but the wallet address came up “not available in my area” so I moved to Coinbase but never got to see if it would let me send to the wallet address.

 

[Jailbreak7]

I am in a similar boat to tul9033 with QSC except I didn’t send the BTC because (I learned) there is a long holding period after you buy BTC before you can send it. So it understandably went out of stock while waiting. I chose BTC because that is what they asked for but I noticed the volatility too. Can I ask what coin you use? And what app lets you send to China? I tried using PayPal crypto first for convenience but the wallet address came up “not available in my area” so I moved to Coinbase but never got to see if it would let me send to the wallet address.

Use a stable coin.. either USDC or USDT (on Solana network for low transfer fees)... I have a small preference for USDC but the "advantages" are minimal and only relevant if you are using Coinbase at all..

PS.. not available in your area sounds like you may be in NY? that state is something else when it comes to crypto

 

[Doxyisfoxy]

Use a stable coin.. either USDC or USDT (on Solana network for low transfer fees)... I have a small preference for USDC but the "advantages" are minimal and only relevant if you are using Coinbase at all..

PS.. not available in your area sounds like you may be in NY? that state is something else when it comes to crypto

Not NY but New England so that may be true. I’m not aware of my state being particularly robust in crypto laws but then again, this is my first foray. I assumed it was a USA to China thing but my ignorance of what kind of details are shared with just a wallet address made me unsure. I assumed that the owner’s identity was mostly anonymous and that was the beauty of crypto. QSC did not list USDC or USDT as payment type options so maybe I will just have to go with a different vendor in the future.

 

[tul9033]

I am in a similar boat to tul9033 with QSC except I didn’t send the BTC because (I learned) there is a long holding period after you buy BTC before you can send it. So it understandably went out of stock while waiting. I chose BTC because that is what they asked for but I noticed the volatility too. Can I ask what coin you use? And what app lets you send to China? I tried using PayPal crypto first for convenience but the wallet address came up “not available in my area” so I moved to Coinbase but never got to see if it would let me send to the wallet address.

I use Strike which came recommended by several.
@Jailbreak7 what do you recommend?

 

[stephaniemeador]

worthy of access to my subcutaneous fat

 

[Jailbreak7]

QSC takes both USDT and USDC and those are listed on the price list as payment options.. they *could* be a bit more verbose about it though (ie list which networks can be used etc).

@tul9033 either Coinbase exchange to Coinbase Wallet route or PayPal to Exodus route.. both are fine and both should work.. I can't speak to all the challenges that NY residents encounter but I have seen posts that claim it's doable and not that bad in the end...

 

[Doxyisfoxy]

QSC takes both USDT and USDC and those are listed on the price list as payment options.. they *could* be a bit more verbose about it though (ie list which networks can be used etc).

You are correct. After more carefully reviewing the email they sent me, it turns out I can’t read

 

[tul9033]

QSC takes both USDT and USDC and those are listed on the price list as payment options.. they *could* be a bit more verbose about it though (ie list which networks can be used etc).

@tul9033 either Coinbase exchange to Coinbase Wallet route or PayPal to Exodus route.. both are fine and both should work.. I can't speak to all the challenges that NY residents encounter but I have seen posts that claim it's doable and not that bad in the end...

Not in NY and I have an Exodus wallet. Thanks!