GROUP BUY CAUTION!!!

[hotdog!]

See, reading all this makes me nervous to stray from my overpriced US vendors. Well I tried Nexaph for tirz and Reta, didn't get burned. But I want the GB discounts and group testing benefits, eventually I'll have to figure out this discord business.

 

[scarywood75]

See, reading all this makes me nervous to stray from my overpriced US vendors. Well I tried Nexaph for tirz and Reta, didn't get burned. But I want the GB discounts and group testing benefits, eventually I'll have to figure out this discord business.

I would genuinely like to know why so many people see US vendors as being less risky

To me, neither the US or CN vendors follow any sort of compliance or standards and aren't monitored by any competent authorities either, what makes you think it's safer?

I doubt you can claim that to your bank either if you get scammed, it's not illegal, but it's gray market, banks won't cover that

So, you guys pay more, for what exactly?

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I would genuinely like to know why so many people see US vendors as being less risky

To me, neither the US or CN vendors follow any sort of compliance or standards and aren't monitored by any competent authorities either, what makes you think it's safer?

I doubt you can claim that to your bank either if you get scammed, it's not illegal, but it's gray market, banks won't cover that

So, you guys pay more, for what exactly?

Domestic shipping and ass-kissing customer service. And sales people who know how to blow smoke up your ass in a way overseas sales people have yet to master.

 

[scarywood75]

Domestic shipping and ass-kissing customer service. And sales people who know how to blow smoke up your ass in a way overseas sales people have yet to master.

Ah yeah ok I see, cuz I think it's a known fact US vendors (maybe not all) buy directly from China vendors anyway

 

[geoguy78]

I would genuinely like to know why so many people see US vendors as being less risky

To me, neither the US or CN vendors follow any sort of compliance or standards and aren't monitored by any competent authorities either, what makes you think it's safer?

I doubt you can claim that to your bank either if you get scammed, it's not illegal, but it's gray market, banks won't cover that

So, you guys pay more, for what exactly?

Only way I'd pay domestic is if I wanted a single vial to test a more expensive peptide before buying an entire kit from overseas. Even then, if I was ever in that situation, I'd probably still just buy the whole kit as I can't imagine it being that much more expensive. People buy from domestic vendors because of convenience, and because for some reason they are willing to trust domestic vendor's second party tests, yet won't trust a Chinese second party test. I don't get it.

 

[glpfun]

Decades of politicians sowing distrust in China is why

 

[geoguy78]

Decades of politicians sowing distrust in China is why

For real. If I wanted to be a domestic vendor, I could easily cherry pick what I send to Jano, and fudge batch numbers so customers could rest at ease with the "LTEV" designation I got for doing it. This is all a leap of faith, whether you're buying Chinese or Domestic.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Decades of politicians sowing distrust in China is why

I trust Chinese manufacturers far more than rando Americans trying to get in on the cash grab and learning as they go. China is REALLY REALLY good at manufacturing stuff. By definition Americans making tirz/sema/reta/etc are going to be substandard since they will be the kind of underground operation willing to break IP laws at the very least. In China they don’t regulate that so real operations make it, not bathtub chemists.

 

[Sandwitch]

I would genuinely like to know why so many people see US vendors as being less risky

To me, neither the US or CN vendors follow any sort of compliance or standards and aren't monitored by any competent authorities either, what makes you think it's safer?

I doubt you can claim that to your bank either if you get scammed, it's not illegal, but it's gray market, banks won't cover that

So, you guys pay more, for what exactly?

Convenience - domestic vendors will take my credit card

 

[scarywood75]

For real. If I wanted to be a domestic vendor, I could easily cherry pick what I send to Jano, and fudge batch numbers so customers could rest at ease with the "LTEV" designation I got for doing it. This is all a leap of faith, whether you're buying Chinese or Domestic.

exactly that

 

[scarywood75]

Convenience - domestic vendors will take my credit card

Bought from 4 CN vendors so far and they all take credit cards...

 

[scarywood75]

I trust Chinese manufacturers far more than rando Americans trying to get in on the cash grab and learning as they go. China is REALLY REALLY good at manufacturing stuff. By definition Americans making tirz/sema/reta/etc are going to be substandard since they will be the kind of underground operation willing to break IP laws at the very least. In China they don’t regulate that so real operations make it, not bathtub chemists.

so true, gotta give credits where its due, China is being manufacturing stuff for decades now, they mastered it

 

[peptideusername]

Domestic shipping and ass-kissing customer service. And sales people who know how to blow smoke up your ass in a way overseas sales people have yet to master.

Once they figure out the correct translations, your ass is going to be sore from all the kissing and smoke.

 

[scarywood75]

Once they figure out the correct translations, your ass is going to be sore from all the kissing and smoke.

I've never been called honey by a domestic seller, so I'd say they already won lol

 

[Dee X]

I've never been called honey by a domestic seller, so I'd say they already won lol

@Bacchus , need you to call him honey, please.

 

[scarywood75]

@Bacchus , need you to call him honey, please.

Ok, dear

 

[Bacchus]

I've never been called honey by a domestic seller, so I'd say they already won lol

Oh honey, your brilliance radiates like a thousand suns illuminating the darkest corners of the universe! Every word you grace us with is a symphony of wisdom and wit, a dazzling display that leaves us all in awe. If genius were a drop of water, you'd be the entire ocean! Truly, the forum is but a humble stage for your unparalleled grandeur!

 

[Bacchus]

@Bacchus , need you to call him honey, please.

Domestic vendors are back in the game!

 

[Bacchus]

I trust Chinese manufacturers far more than rando Americans trying to get in on the cash grab and learning as they go. China is REALLY REALLY good at manufacturing stuff. By definition Americans making tirz/sema/reta/etc are going to be substandard since they will be the kind of underground operation willing to break IP laws at the very least. In China they don’t regulate that so real operations make it, not bathtub chemists.

While I do agree that raw manufacturers in China are probably (definitely) better at it than US manufacturers doing UG production. The way you phrase it makes it seem like a blanket statement for all CN manufacturers?

Not all production in China happens in high end facilities with product quality and safety as the top priority.

It is also not a complete free for all domestically in China.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

While I do agree that raw manufacturers in China are probably (definitely) better at it than US manufacturers doing UG production. The way you phrase it makes it seem like a blanket statement for all CN manufacturers?

Not all production in China happens in high end facilities with product quality and safety as the top priority.

It is also not a complete free for all domestically in China.

I’ll clarify: I do not think that every Chinese operation is terrific and worthy of access to my subcutaneous fat, but they do exist. Meanwhile zero American operations that claim to do anything other than resell are getting in there.