Free testing ?

[AKC97]

So I was researching testing options for kits that are more local (USA) than Jano.

I came across an entity that wants to support "sovereign" healthcare and safety amongst the pep community. It looks like they just rolled out last month or so. They have "financial supporters" which I want to do a deep dive on.

Any way - you can request to send a vile in and if approved they will test it for free and share the COA with you (sterility and mass only - no blends like glow). Then they publicly publish the results on their website and score vendors.

They also purchase from random domestic US companies and score them.

Am I allowed to share the name and can we talk about it?

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

They are selling nothing? It’s a community service? If so, I call scam, or a business model that will be revealed to in fact be selling you something.

 

[pavlovs]

Is it this one: https://www.finnrick.com/ ?

 

[AKC97]

Ok ok ok... I wasn't sure if this was going to get the go ahead since my post had to be approved.

Let me catch my breath for a sec... 🫁 Woooooooza. 👂🫣

I'm skeptical and a conspiracy theorist at heart (and soul) and am always over thinking the WHY so I totally agree... like what's the catch, right?

So I've been reading everything I can on peps.... TT, Reddit, STG, TG, Discord, now Discourse, etc.... I made purchases from several retail vendors. The shit works. It's life changing for most.

Que my first Grey purchase - a newer vendor on the STG list, but I want to have it tested. I start consuming every tidbit of testing and providers... look in to a few local Universities... then I come across Finnrick (.com). I spend hours reading their website, checking their YT, thinking. Free testing... Sovereign health care - wow - what's the catch?

As I said before- haven't had time to deep dive the financiers but want to know what the connection might be, is this a scheme for marketing vendors...

I saw multiple US domestic ratings and 1 for SRY.

I thought let me send a request to see if they will test for the R20 I picked up from "QST" - I think she is a reseller with no affiliated lab.

They said send it. So I'm sending a vile Tuesday.
 
I am so excited to discuss this and hear other people who have been involved with peps opinions.

TYIA!

 

[Airborne Daddy]

They are selling nothing? It’s a community service? If so, I call scam, or a business model that will be revealed to in fact be selling you something.

Prolly a few free tests and charge from there... janos 600 bucks is alot imo... I can order my own bloodwork from quest and run a slew of labs for 300.... testosterone, estrogen, cbc, lipids, psa and tsh (thyroid)

 

[Airborne Daddy]

They are selling nothing? It’s a community service? If so, I call scam, or a business model that will be revealed to in fact be selling you something.

They have financial supporters though. So when every lab pays them 10k their tests are gonna be spot on with dairy creamer and financial supporters get triple back.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

They have financial supporters though. So when every lab pays them 10k their tests are gonna be spot on with dairy creamer and financial supporters get triple back.

Why would labs pay these guys?

 

[pavlovs]

Why would labs pay these guys?

To sweep bad tests under the rug.

 

[Calm Logic]

The biggest potential conflict of interest I see is the website layout seems similar to one of the vendors listed, Peptide Crafters (charging at least $8 per mg for reta and $5 per mg for tirz).

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I assume there's some kind of shady shit going on behind the scenes, because... peptides.

I will admit that I had never seen or heard the phrase "sovereign health" before. I like it conceptually, but suspect it will eventually become our hobby's version of sovereign citizen.

 

[AKC97]

Why would labs pay these guys?

They are using different labs - heavy on Chromate with a few MZ Biolabs, TrustPointe, Krause Analytical, then 3rd week-ish of May all are Janoshik...

 

[AKC97]

The biggest potential conflict of interest I see is the website layout seems similar to one of the vendors listed, Peptide Crafters (at about $8 per mg for reta and $5 per mg for tirz).

Testing in Austin- PC is in "Frisco" TX a 3 hour drive .... interesting enough a lot of the $ is coming from entrepreneurs and investors from Silicon Valley... subliminal - San Fransisco. 🤔

 

[Mainah]

One of the founders has been posting updates sporadically on Peppys the past few months.
I'm not sure what their plan for sustainability is.
Given the number of vials they've acquired and had tested, they've supposedly spent some serious money on this startup.

 

[scarywood75]

It literally makes no sense, I wouldn't use them

 

[AKC97]

One of the founders has been posting updates sporadically on Peppys the past few months.
I'm not sure what their plan for sustainability is.
Given the number of vials they've acquired and had tested, they've supposedly spent some serious money on this startup.

I found it. TY.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

The CEO’s bio self-identifies him as a “serial entrepreneur.” Here’s my prediction: this is a Silicon Valley guy spending early investors’ (parents and their friends) money to spin up, will get some larger investors to keep it going while building user base, then attempt to monitize you or sell to some firm that will do who knows what to get back their investment. They see a gold rush and want to sell their participation in it to investors, but don’t seem to know (or at least aren’t willing to share with the public) how they plan to make money from it.

What definitely isn’t true is that this is about helping you because the serial entrepreneur kiddo and his secret group of benefactors are so passionate about you buying underground peptides from the best possible vendor. Someday they’ll be taking money from those vendors in exchange for access to your eyeballs just the same as TikTok and facebook do, and all this sovereign health smokeupthebum will dissipate.

Maybe you can get a free test of unknown quality in the meantime, or use it as a who’s who list of domestic vendors, but I wouldn’t give them my real name or email.

Also, before long if these guys get traction, you can expect their aggregated data become unreliable because vendors will be sabotaging each other by posing as end users and sending in bad samples labeled as their competitors.

 

[GLP1Pharmacist]

Is it this one: https://www.finnrick.com/ ?

It does seem odd that all of the individual vial vendors charging a lot more are top rated, while all of the vendors selling 10 vial packs aren't listed or ranking low. Just my initial opinion on a quick review.

 

[Skidude]

I does seem odd that all of the individual vial vendors charging a lot more are top rated, while all of the vendors selling 10 vial packs aren't listed or ranking low. Just my initial opinion on a quick review.

When attempting a whois, the domain is 6 months old and private. It is certainly possible to use it for marketing or to drive in a certain direction. Not to mention a nice lead sheet. Tough to not be skeptical on this one.