Iamnew2this
GLP-1 Specialist
I would rather pay by cc and I assure you that I'm not stupid! People may panic at times, but STUPID is a strong word. WATCH your words, that was STUPID of you!
TikTok is really creating problems in this space.
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That's what is so disheartening and annoying about these people, how hard could it be just to read up or research on something you'll be injecting? This new trend on TikTok is quite scary 😨 😳
peptideusername
Moderator
Paying with a credit card is much simpler than buying/swapping/sending crypto, no doubt.
But doing so to facilitate a chargeback in case something goes wrong is a problem and needs to stop.
I personally don't care if PayPal, Alipay et al are removed as payment options because it's no skin off my back. But the Karens with their unrealistic expectations reporting a vendor to PayPal or Chase Bank for a refund is ruining it for the rest.
I've never even considered "buyer protections" while buying drugs. Seems silly to me.
PackmanJohnny
GLP-1 Novice
The average person in your local gym doesnt even know what GLP-1s are. Best case they have 'heard of' Ozempic.
I'll never have an account on that stupid app, but I'm almost certain that the majority(85~%) think they just want Sema. another 5-10% same bt with Tirz. When people talked to me at the gym I worked at until recently(RIP) about different supps, Id never met a single person who knew what Reta was. Only 1 in 10-15 knew What GH secretagogues were.
That level of ignorance is what makes the TT stuff the most dangerous IMO. Gray will always find a way(and if not I doubt the majority of people here are going to be THAT scared to go black), there will always be a market for stuff - but dumbass kids that have never dieted or exercised are going to get hurt.
christa_channing
GLP-1 Novice
I am not of the "chargeback mind." We are all taking risks. My supplier trusts that I will not post about her all over social media or do a chargeback claiming my "gray market peptides" didn't come and I trust that she will make sure I get what I paid for.
I'm not opposed to learning crypto. I've even attempted it a few times and given up because there's just TOO MUCH. Buy it here. Transfer it there. Move it over there. Convert this. Make sure they have the right type. Make sure you have the right type. And constantly it's "if you send it to the wrong place you will never get it back." I understand that some day that will be my only option and then I will find someone to walk me through it. And, that is why I'm here. To learn.
Oh no, this makes me want to get GLPs sooner than I should. If I don't get a better coverage I don't want to pay the full price out of pocket. What is going to happen with gray market websites, are they going to get shut down? And what should I expect with customs when buying overseas? Not that I plan to buy one overseas anyway, but if I have no choice...
peptideusername
Moderator
Then you'd fall under "the rest".
I know crypto and the prospect of irreversibility can be scary. I have gone through the paces with it and last year and made a walkthrough for beginners buying crypto (USDT-SOL) to pay vendors.
I will soon(ish) be updating it and will post it here. It's not the end-all be-all of crypto, but it is a step by step guide with screenshots and big red circles and arrows to direct you.
PackmanJohnny
GLP-1 Novice
If you arent planning on buying from overseas then as ive seen Skidude say in a few threads now...you probably should expect for your options to continuously narrow as time goes on.
Iamnew2this
GLP-1 Specialist
I do agree with your comment. This IS NOT the hobby for charge backs and things of that nature. I am aware it can turn ugly and harder for people who like to out of pure convenience to pay by cc. It can also open a can of worms with charge backs rather than, getting in touch personally with a supplier or waiting patient for shipment. I am not one of those people. I just find it more convenient at the moment. "Stupid" is not a good word and can offend. Some of us do not care for being called stupid. You speak with a lot of sense and are not offending anyone.
I don't know what would happen if Customs seizes it. What legal trouble awaits?
Anyway maybe there is hope because some providers are packaging it as Vitamin B mixed with semaglutide, hopefully that's a solid workaround
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
The only legal trouble is if you are trying to distribute, like to the people at your gym or something like that.
I was about to ask for a guide. Looking forward to it!
Okay, that is reassuring. Thanks!
Can’t do a chargeback if you send PayPal through Friends and Family.
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
With sending Bitcoin, it helped me to start with smaller transactions to legitimate companies:
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Research the worst possible outcomes. Prosecution could happen for several reasons. It’s not likely they will prosecute for small, personal amounts but eventually they will make an example out of someone. If people aren’t willing to accept that then this is the wrong hobby.
PackmanJohnny
GLP-1 Novice
There are smart ways and dumb ways to give the system the middle finger.
None of them involve zero risk. All of them feature a worst-case scenario.
This is not a game of eliminating risk, but mitigating it.
Delta
GLP-1 Novice
Overseas drug dealers don't want charge backs when your Reta does work in 2 weeks or charge backs in general.
Edit - Didn't read the last page of the thread before posting this.
Edit - Didn't read the last page of the thread before posting this.
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Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
They need to go after some of the med spa owners and techs, far more than they are doing now:
One victim was a young model who got leprosy-looking holes all over her skin -- looked worse than a horror movie:
She lived but was in the hospital for four months. But others have died from unsupervised IVs.
The pictures of her here are much better than earlier photos:
My body was eating itself alive after getting fat-dissolving injections at a luxury spa
A fitness influencer’s worst nightmare came true after vitamin injections left her in a years-long battle with a flesh-eating illness.
nypost.com
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rkl123
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Most or all truly domestic sources are not long for this world. We saw this with Amino Asylum and this will continue with the majority of them. They're the easiest targets by far and probably the biggest targest for EL/NN since they stupidly advertise on Tiktok.
Chinese gray will be far more resilient. The Chinese have the power to truly shut it down, but no reason or motivation to do so currently.
Like you I’ve struggled with my weight my entire life. Started GLP1 at a local med spas on 2022 and then through Mochi. I had heard about “peptide from China” and was so dismissive of it all. SMH
Anyways, I finally came to my senses a few months ago. This group has been extremely helpful for a newbie like me. I love TikTok (don’t come for me) but I strongly believe that people openly posting about it and even showing the packaging by doing some unboxing is irresponsible. Brings to much unwanted attention to our research. Kudos to you for such a robust stockpile, I only have 2 kits of Tirz 60 and one Sema 10. Next time there’s a preorder at Nexaph I’ll grab another, and that will have to be it. At least until I can figure the freezer situation.
PackmanJohnny
GLP-1 Novice
Knowing the little I do of a couple of their larger distro (former) partners, I dont think AA was truly domestic, at least not for a long time. I dont think most of the 'domestic' guys are at this point. One of the last contacts I had that was truly domestic got busted a few weeks ago - highly doubt many are going to keep labs open stateside anymore. Too risky.
I dont see the chinese ever clamping it - they have zero reason to and its a great revenue stream. US wont ever press them too hard on pharma tariffs if ever at all. Too many other commodities that tip the scales more heavily. most of US efforts are going towards narco inbounds through MEX/CAN borders before they put any real intent towards anything in this sphere.
chmuse
Public Nuisance 🦜🐧🦅🦚🦃🦢🐓🦆🦉
I print out hard copies of my coa's, and label the vials with GB it's from, brand it's from, expected contents, actual tested mg, batch number or date if I have it, and a QR to the test, then a circle on top with contents and avg of the test numbers. I'm starting to be paranoid about my niimbot labels, so I'm debating labelling the bottom of the vial in sharpie too.
christa_channing
GLP-1 Novice
I’ve got a niimbot on the way. What is the concern?
Skidude
Illegitimi non carborundum
I have had some lose ink from alcohol overspray on my in-use vials.
chmuse
Public Nuisance 🦜🐧🦅🦚🦃🦢🐓🦆🦉
That I have anxiety. /s
They're thermal labels, so I worry that if, for example, I lose power during a heat wave and my freezer gets hot, my labels turn black. It's probably an unfounded fear, but it would ease my mind.
chmuse
Public Nuisance 🦜🐧🦅🦚🦃🦢🐓🦆🦉
I switched to pens, and I label the pen itself.
I bought alcohol wipes in bulk a while back, so it's pretty easy to not screw up the label.
I think Pekcura Labs is domestic. They are stupid expensive though.
rkl123
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Or better rephrasing: majority of US-side resellers (i.e. not a Chinese "vendor" who pretends to be a factory but is actually a reseller) will go under. A select few are probably more resilient and will survive. Those select few are not the ones that are easy to find without Discord/Telegram/Discourse.
FlowerFairy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
According to this person, SRY is under indictment and so is some “influencer” they were talking to about helping them sell…
