TikTok is really creating problems in this space.

[Iamnew2this]

Yep, people really delude themselves into thinking because they use a credit card or PayPal that somehow their buying black market drugs from overseas faceless drug dealers is legit.

People are stupid, panicky, creatures. And TicTok makes sure they always have a place to congregate....

I would rather pay by cc and I assure you that I'm not stupid! People may panic at times, but STUPID is a strong word. WATCH your words, that was STUPID of you!

 

[reniks2k2]

You are 100% right. It is one of the reasons why I started hoarding. I feel like one day something is going to happen that is going to make it very difficult to get.

I see more and more posts on Reddit from people who don't know the basics but somehow wound up buying a vial of Reta. Like they don't even realize the vials come in powder/puck form. They think it is shady if the vials are not labeled. They don't know what a kit is. They post the literal dumbest questions. They can't do basic math like what is 20mg divided by 10. They ask questions like "Is 10mg more than 5mg". One GI symptom and they are posting about how terrible it is and "Is it normal to have diarrhea" ....

I read something that said AI use (and I think Tiktok use tbh) is rotting people's brains and I believe it.

Plus combine that with spending their rent money and last dollar on glp1s, expecting vendors to ship out immediately after payment like Amazon does, not understanding it can take weeks to get from Asia to the US, not understanding Chinese holidays, customs, or just general international shipping...Yeah it is a recipe for disaster. It is just going to take one media expose or high profile death blamed on GLP1 grey stuff for the ban hammers to start coming down.

That's what is so disheartening and annoying about these people, how hard could it be just to read up or research on something you'll be injecting? This new trend on TikTok is quite scary 😨 😳

 

[peptideusername]

I would rather pay by cc and I assure you that I'm not stupid! People may panic at times, but STUPID is a strong word. WATCH your words, that was STUPID of you!

Paying with a credit card is much simpler than buying/swapping/sending crypto, no doubt.
But doing so to facilitate a chargeback in case something goes wrong is a problem and needs to stop.
I personally don't care if PayPal, Alipay et al are removed as payment options because it's no skin off my back. But the Karens with their unrealistic expectations reporting a vendor to PayPal or Chase Bank for a refund is ruining it for the rest.
I've never even considered "buyer protections" while buying drugs. Seems silly to me.

 

[PackmanJohnny]

I'm surprised the pricing hasn't gone up for now, especially with reta.

The average person in your local gym doesnt even know what GLP-1s are. Best case they have 'heard of' Ozempic.

I'll never have an account on that stupid app, but I'm almost certain that the majority(85~%) think they just want Sema. another 5-10% same bt with Tirz. When people talked to me at the gym I worked at until recently(RIP) about different supps, Id never met a single person who knew what Reta was. Only 1 in 10-15 knew What GH secretagogues were.

That level of ignorance is what makes the TT stuff the most dangerous IMO. Gray will always find a way(and if not I doubt the majority of people here are going to be THAT scared to go black), there will always be a market for stuff - but dumbass kids that have never dieted or exercised are going to get hurt.

 

[christa_channing]

Paying with a credit card is much simpler than buying/swapping/sending crypto, no doubt.
But doing so to facilitate a chargeback in case something goes wrong is a problem and needs to stop.
I personally don't care if PayPal, Alipay et al are removed as payment options because it's no skin off my back. But the Karens with their unrealistic expectations reporting a vendor to PayPal or Chase Bank for a refund is ruining it for the rest.
I've never even considered "buyer protections" while buying drugs. Seems silly to me.

I am not of the "chargeback mind." We are all taking risks. My supplier trusts that I will not post about her all over social media or do a chargeback claiming my "gray market peptides" didn't come and I trust that she will make sure I get what I paid for.

I'm not opposed to learning crypto. I've even attempted it a few times and given up because there's just TOO MUCH. Buy it here. Transfer it there. Move it over there. Convert this. Make sure they have the right type. Make sure you have the right type. And constantly it's "if you send it to the wrong place you will never get it back." I understand that some day that will be my only option and then I will find someone to walk me through it. And, that is why I'm here. To learn.

 

[KevinNaka]

Oh no, this makes me want to get GLPs sooner than I should. If I don't get a better coverage I don't want to pay the full price out of pocket. What is going to happen with gray market websites, are they going to get shut down? And what should I expect with customs when buying overseas? Not that I plan to buy one overseas anyway, but if I have no choice...

 

[peptideusername]

I am not of the "chargeback mind."

But the Karens with their unrealistic expectations reporting a vendor to PayPal or Chase Bank for a refund is ruining it for the rest.

Then you'd fall under "the rest".

I know crypto and the prospect of irreversibility can be scary. I have gone through the paces with it and last year and made a walkthrough for beginners buying crypto (USDT-SOL) to pay vendors.
I will soon(ish) be updating it and will post it here. It's not the end-all be-all of crypto, but it is a step by step guide with screenshots and big red circles and arrows to direct you.

 

[PackmanJohnny]

Oh no, this makes me want to get GLPs sooner than I should. If I don't get a better coverage I don't want to pay the full price out of pocket. What is going to happen with gray market websites, are they going to get shut down? And what should I expect with customs when buying overseas? Not that I plan to buy one overseas anyway, but if I have no choice...

If you arent planning on buying from overseas then as ive seen Skidude say in a few threads now...you probably should expect for your options to continuously narrow as time goes on.

 

[Iamnew2this]

Paying with a credit card is much simpler than buying/swapping/sending crypto, no doubt.
But doing so to facilitate a chargeback in case something goes wrong is a problem and needs to stop.
I personally don't care if PayPal, Alipay et al are removed as payment options because it's no skin off my back. But the Karens with their unrealistic expectations reporting a vendor to PayPal or Chase Bank for a refund is ruining it for the rest.
I've never even considered "buyer protections" while buying drugs. Seems silly to me.

I do agree with your comment. This IS NOT the hobby for charge backs and things of that nature. I am aware it can turn ugly and harder for people who like to out of pure convenience to pay by cc. It can also open a can of worms with charge backs rather than, getting in touch personally with a supplier or waiting patient for shipment. I am not one of those people. I just find it more convenient at the moment. "Stupid" is not a good word and can offend. Some of us do not care for being called stupid. You speak with a lot of sense and are not offending anyone.

 

[KevinNaka]

If you arent planning on buying from overseas then as ive seen Skidude say in a few threads now...you probably should expect for your options to continuously narrow as time goes on.

I don't know what would happen if Customs seizes it. What legal trouble awaits?

Anyway maybe there is hope because some providers are packaging it as Vitamin B mixed with semaglutide, hopefully that's a solid workaround

 

[Calm Logic]

The only legal trouble is if you are trying to distribute, like to the people at your gym or something like that.

 

[KevinNaka]

Then you'd fall under "the rest".

I know crypto and the prospect of irreversibility can be scary. I have gone through the paces with it and last year and made a walkthrough for beginners buying crypto (USDT-SOL) to pay vendors.
I will soon(ish) be updating it and will post it here. It's not the end-all be-all of crypto, but it is a step by step guide with screenshots and big red circles and arrows to direct you.

I was about to ask for a guide. Looking forward to it!

The only legal trouble is if you are trying to distribute, like to the people at your gym or something like that.

Okay, that is reassuring. Thanks!

 

[dogmom]

It took me a while to figure out crypto and wallets. I understand the hesitation. But now I have it down pat.

 

[AndyPanda]

Paying with a credit card is much simpler than buying/swapping/sending crypto, no doubt.
But doing so to facilitate a chargeback in case something goes wrong is a problem and needs to stop.
I personally don't care if PayPal, Alipay et al are removed as payment options because it's no skin off my back. But the Karens with their unrealistic expectations reporting a vendor to PayPal or Chase Bank for a refund is ruining it for the rest.
I've never even considered "buyer protections" while buying drugs. Seems silly to me.

Can’t do a chargeback if you send PayPal through Friends and Family.

 

[Calm Logic]

With sending Bitcoin, it helped me to start with smaller transactions to legitimate companies:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/5-surprising-companies-now-accepting-100000340.html