Recommended supplier

[Calm Logic]

And a list, like the one above, is more helpful when showing how relatively good vendors go bad or disappear, as in an exit scam.

 

[zpped]

For newbies to not sort through a million vendor offers, hopes of decreasing scammers, known problem vendors, track records of good testing results.

Known scammers are removed from the vendor section. Every vendor is either a long list of problems or mostly unknown.

KK already pointed out how his list would have been completely different six months ago. Which just shows in a month someone is going to read this and rely on something he said which will be completely outdated by then.

 

[Jennyjv03]

Since there are many requests to name a specific vendor who is "reliable" (a relative term when speaking of GLP-1 providers who are not selling the presription stuff, I'll do so. Here is my list of semi-recommended vendors. The order they are listed in has nothing to do with which one is better. I'm not including the way overpriced domestic vendors, many of which are quite reliable.

Shanghai Nexa Pharma • aka SPC • aka SNP: A little on the pricy side. Despite the name, you're buying it from a guy who lives in the US. If you're going to skip testing, SNP is a good place to use because SNP arranges and pays for some supposedly independent tests. While I'm not sure how independent those tests truly are, SNP users often regularly test. When there is a problem, Cain fixes the problem. He accepts credit cards. Someone will bring up the fact that when Cain first started he told a million lies. I'm not going to try to defend him on that point; Cain for the most part does not try to defend his past lies.

Shanghai Sigma Audley New Material Technology • aka SSA: Good place. This is the cheapest place on the list. Like most vendors, you are going to need to have your stuff tested, join a group that's testing your batch, or just wait until someone tests. However, relying on other people's test can be bad because your grey top retatrutide may be from a completely separate batch than the other person's grey top retatrutide that was sold 3 days aspart.

Tianjin-Cangtu International • aka TCI (NOT Tianjin FINDER International) • aka HBCangtu. Good place.

Peptide Group Buys (PGB): Even most folks who regularly pay for testing of the GLP-1 drugs they buy don't test when purchasing from PGB. They do true independent testing of what they buy before selling it to you. They're pricier than some of the others, however, you probably don't have to test. You do have to be pretty good with computers and you have to be willing to use crypto to use PGB.

Amo (BFF): There used to be a place called Amo, then BFF, but it keeps getting renamed and they keep losing their website. When they're around, they consistently produce good quality stuff.

This list is, to a large degree copied from Cocodrie's list.

GYC isn't included because they've recently been silent.

Shanghai Wibson Biotechnology Co., Ltd. (WBS) isn't on my list yet. They are new, often have lower prices than SSA, but they are too new for me to recommend. But many people like them.

If I had produced a list 6 months ago, many of the vendors that would have been on that list would not have made the current list. It is common for good vendors to stop being good vendors.

If you make many purchases of GLP-1 drugs from non-prescription sources, you are quitely likely to be scammed at some point. That is the cost of buying research grade peptides.

If someone disagrees with something I wrote, please comment here publicly so others can read what you believe.

Just want to second the recommendation of SSA for Tirz 40. I just received my first order from them, in THREE days (US STOCK). Probably would have been faster if Vegas mail wasn't so slow. My order arrived in Vegas the 18th, I ordered around 2am 6/17 & received it 6/20. None of that matters if product sucks, first dose is GOOD/GREAT so far! (Dated 2/2025) Last order was from SRY and had to double the dose for effect. Plus it took a while & a lot of shaking for it to disolve when reconstituted (made a post a while back w pics etc). SSA immediately disolved (40mg) after adding the first 1cc vs SRY (30mg). Only did 10mg and that may be too much. Was at 15mg w SRY, 5mg when starting theirs. Increasing dose is expected so didn't know if it was the product or just time. This new SSA confirmed my suspicion as its much more potent at a lower dose, disolves quickly, extremely fast shipping, & at a good price. Just wanted to share my experience. *As warned throughout this forum, many times, my experience might not be yours.*

 

[Calm Logic]

The SSA could be more overfilled than SRY, assuming SRY was not underfilled.

 

[keangkong]

I'm not going to disagree as much as I'm going to ask for an explanation of this overwhelming desire people have to create GLP vendor lists?

I'm genuinely curious.

Because using a recommended vendor list will help folks who might otherwise be scammed or just make bad choices. I think I know enough to make reasonably safe choices and suggestions. Do I know enough to avoid being scammed? Tracy from QSC took my money and then disappeared, so the answer is no. Do I know better than you? No. Plenty of people on this forum likely make better buying choices than I do. Do I think someone should just rely on what I wrote? No. But I'd rather they rely on what I said then rely on the person who dm'd them promising terrific deals.

 

[hexagonal]

The SSA could be more overfilled than SRY, assuming SRY was not underfilled.

SSA seems to overfill by 10% or so pretty regularly. Their last T40 test ended up at 44mg, their 36IU HGH kits tend to be around 40IU, etc. R60 kit I have is like 66mg.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Because using a recommended vendor list will help folks who might otherwise be scammed or just make bad choices. I think I know enough to make reasonably safe choices and suggestions. Do I know enough to avoid being scammed? Tracy from QSC took my money and then disappeared, so the answer is no. Do I know better than you? No. Plenty of people on this forum likely make better buying choices than I do. Do I think someone should just rely on what I wrote? No. But I'd rather they rely on what I said then rely on the person who dm'd them promising terrific deals.

I totally understand the reason(s) behind the lists, I guess what I'm trying to figure out is what the motivations are behind them; why some people feel so compelled to create & maintain them (and I'm not singling you out by any means, you just happen to be the person I'm talking to at the moment).

Of course I grasp and appreciate the the desire to help people aspect; I created an entire forum based on that premise. It just seems like there is more to it than that which what I'm trying to understand.

It continues to puzzle me why people take it on as a sacred mission. Obviously some are entirely motivated by a desire for financial gain, either to steer people toward one or more 'preferred' sellers because they are in fact one of those sellers or because they receive some other reward or compensation for doing so, or they seek to directly profit from selling the list itself. And again to be perfectly clear, I'm not suggesting for a moment that you are motivated by any of those things, but knowing that is the driving force behind many lists is one of the main reasons I think they are more frequently a disservice to the community than anything else.

 

[Skidude]

Because using a recommended vendor list will help folks who might otherwise be scammed or just make bad choices. I think I know enough to make reasonably safe choices and suggestions. Do I know enough to avoid being scammed? Tracy from QSC took my money and then disappeared, so the answer is no. Do I know better than you? No. Plenty of people on this forum likely make better buying choices than I do. Do I think someone should just rely on what I wrote? No. But I'd rather they rely on what I said then rely on the person who dm'd them promising terrific deals.

Having discovered this forum last September, as a result of a list, and seeing the associated issues over time; I wonder if it really is a good idea to help people source instead of allowing them to run the scavenger hunt that will help them learn something along the way.

I mean if you give, some, people the keys to CVS will they know which drugs not to take together and what to watch out for? I am anti-nanny state and believe people need to make their own choices, but I don't give my grandson keys to the pickup truck. I started him off on the golf cart.

It seems like the philosophy behind the contrasting methods is:
1) put it all out there and let the cards fall where they may.
or
2)make people take steps to learn and maybe it will be better when they find a source.
I would argue risk reduction and true "help" are better provided in the second method.

Don't mistake this for me being condescending, as I too was suggesting places like Nexaph and BFF, at a point not too long ago, and then I saw issues with them, and so many others, and realized that my recommended vendor could have a problem on the next sale.
Do i send some one to SRY the day before they sell cleaning fluids, Nexa the day the cardboard goes out, Tracy the day he heads to the beach?

Personally, I try to tell them how I choose now as opposed to who I choose, including methods on how to mitigate the dangers.

You know.. Teach a man to fish kind of strategy.


Maybe we need a FAQ on how to select a vendor, that includes all the methods we have learned along the way, as opposed to a list that is only as good as yesterday?

 

[Calm Logic]

And any good list with a lot of nuance may still end up on TikTok, in one form or another.

 

[chmuse]

Having discovered this forum last September, as a result of a list, and seeing the associated issues over time; I wonder if it really is a good idea to help people source instead of allowing them to run the scavenger hunt that will help them learn something along the way.

I mean if you give, some, people the keys to CVS will they know which drugs not to take together and what to watch out for? I am anti-nanny state and believe people need to make their own choices, but I don't give my grandson keys to the pickup truck. I started him off on the golf cart.

It seems like the philosophy behind the contrasting methods is:
1) put it all out there and let the cards fall where they may.
or
2)make people take steps to learn and maybe it will be better when they find a source.
I would argue risk reduction and true "help" are better provided in the second method.

Don't mistake this for me being condescending, as I too was suggesting places like Nexaph and BFF, at a point not too long ago, and then I saw issues with them, and so many others, and realized that my recommended vendor could have a problem on the next sale.
Do i send some one to SRY the day before they sell cleaning fluids, Nexa the day the cardboard goes out, Tracy the day he heads to the beach?

Personally, I try to tell them how I choose now as opposed to who I choose, including methods on how to mitigate the dangers.

You know.. Teach a man to fish kind of strategy.


Maybe we need a FAQ on how to select a vendor, that includes all the methods we have learned along the way, as opposed to a list that is only as good as yesterday?

Personally, I'd love a dedicated review system on the forum of some sort, but I do have a particular love for a certain server who has made reviews their entire mission statement. 😅 The problem being, there has to be a way to verify reviews legitimately. There's such a scammer issue already, we don't need a million brand new accounts posting "ABZ had my product here in 24 hours and the feelz are so amazeballs!" Maybe a 'beware' section where we can post, for example, the current sry disinfectant issues, their responses, and the fact that they're selling it at a discount now so you'd best be watching resellers, too? Etc. Or the overfilled SRY ghk-cu. The peps that tested as reta when sold as tirz. Etc.

I haven't been on much lately due to work so for all I know all of the issues are being discussed here in detail and I just haven't seen the threads because I've been responding to notifications and hitting new once, and anyone who spent time doing the research we suggest would see all of those things, too.

 

[Skidude]

Personally, I'd love a dedicated review system on the forum of some sort, but I do have a particular love for a certain server who has made reviews their entire mission statement. 😅 The problem being, there has to be a way to verify reviews legitimately. There's such a scammer issue already, we don't need a million brand new accounts posting "ABZ had my product here in 24 hours and the feelz are so amazeballs!" Maybe a 'beware' section where we can post, for example, the current sry disinfectant issues, their responses, and the fact that they're selling it at a discount now so you'd best be watching resellers, too? Etc. Or the overfilled SRY ghk-cu. The peps that tested as reta when sold as tirz. Etc.

I haven't been on much lately due to work so for all I know all of the issues are being discussed here in detail and I just haven't seen the threads because I've been responding to notifications and hitting new once, and anyone who spent time doing the research we suggest would see all of those things, too.

ohh take a look at your buddy Brute Enforcer Emeritus:

Post in thread '[SRY] May promotion'

Jun 23, 2025

ugly r30 260usd/kit
ugly t30 150usd/kit

These are the kits contaminated with disinfectants right?

• exploitedworkerbee

• 
• 
• 

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Personally, I'd love a dedicated review system on the forum of some sort

It's been on the radar literally since the day the forum was launched, unfortunately it's one of those things that doesn't have an "easy" answer due to many of the issues you mention. The type of review system I envision in my head does not currently exist as a forum plug-in so I would either have to pay someone to custom develop it or just "settle" for an off-the-shelf plug-in that would probably piss me off more than it would help.

 

[Skidude]

It's been on the radar literally since the day the forum was launched, unfortunately it's one of those things that doesn't have an "easy" answer due to many of the issues you mention. The type of review system I envision in my head does not currently exist as a forum plug-in so I would either have to pay someone to custom develop it or just "settle" for an off-the-shelf plug-in that would probably piss me off more than it would help.

years ago i was on forum where the mods could give warnings etc if a user broke rules.
If the review was based on warnings could the Vendor tag change colors as a result of codes-
IE:
Grey new vendor
Red major issues recently
Orange some issues
Green no reported issues for (x) number of days?

Just a thought.
By the way- it would be obvious to the community if the colors did not represent the latest news/gossip so there would be at least some checks and balances.
Just a thought.

 

[GLP1Pharmacist]

Maybe a list that allows thumbs up or down rating, but there is no perfect system.

 

[hexagonal]

I think the fundamental problem is that while of course businesses in general can always change over time, in this space, those changes happen rapidly and often very decisively. The inertia from prior positive reviews would take time to overcome, or administration would have to step in and specifically flag them/reset reviews/some other sort of action to reflect the sudden change.

Sorting by recent reviews, etc., will help people taking the time to actually read those, but plenty of people just 'sort by highest rating' on reviews and don't bother being any more selective than that.

 

[keangkong]

And a list, like the one above, is more helpful when showing how relatively good vendors go bad or disappear, as in an exit scam.

That is a deficiency in the list I prepared; I didn't show who would have been on the good list six months ago but have forfeited that right. I tried to keep things simple.

 

[YoYoFat]

Where are you getting your BAC Water as Nexaph no longer carries it. Kind of screwed without it.

Nexaph has never carried BAC.

 

[Super Trips]

ill sell PGB back 10pks if any one wants a few

 

[Fisherman2356]

Made a bitcoin payment to Alimo Peptide on Friday and they have since not responded to any emails after. Anyone with similar stories?

update? Did you ever get the shipment?

 

[JKLIN]

I'm not going to disagree as much as I'm going to ask for an explanation of this overwhelming desire people have to create GLP vendor lists?

I'm genuinely curious.

I think it's to help out the newbies.

 

[Fisherman2356]

Has anyone had success with Alimo Peptide. Wanted to order HG from their supposed USA warehouse but can't find any reliable review from GLP! members? @Beepjeep had complained about them, and never updated to tell us if he ever received the order? If I were a mod, I would literally ban people like that (that never update on a negative experience). I thought this is one of the reasons for being here to let each other know (and update us) of shady experiences with certain suppliers.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I think it's to help out the newbies.

If what I'm going to start calling "the list people" really wanted to help newbies, they would be making lists of which vendors to AVOID instead of which vendors they think (or are paid or otherwise incentivized to include) are worthy of those newbies blind faith and hard-earned money; yet I don't think I've seen such a list in at least the past year (probably longer).

If the list people want to be really helpful to newbies and the community at large, here are some suggested lists they could create that would be far more useful than the usual style of vendor lists:

• A list of vendors to avoid (including details of why such as refusing to remedy bad products, altering test results, failing to deliver products, failing to follow-through on re-ship guarantees for lost or seized shipments, etc.).
• A list of factors newbies (and others) can use evaluate vendors on their own.
• A list of all the resources available both here on this forum and elsewhere that will help newbies gain the knowledge and skills to make informed purchasing decisions.
• A list of the factors that go into determining one's own risk tolerance.

And on and on.

As I mentioned previously, I completely understand the desire to help newbies - that was and remains a prime motivator behind the creation of this forum. What I still don't understand and nobody has managed to explain thus far (other than the generic "to help") is why some folks feel so compelled to compile and distribute these lists; as if it's an almost religious calling.

 

[jdaniel30]

The other issues with lists is that the list of reliable vendors changes. My initial order was last October with ASC. They were considered to be trustworthy until they weren't. Also my personal criteria has changed from vendors that accept PayPal to crypto as there have been occasional reports of PayPal shutting down accounts of those who buy from questionable suppliers. Also now only order from US warehouses as I deal with shipping and receiving from Asia during my day job, fill out customs forms frequently and have a reputation for accuracy. I would hate to mess that up with a seized shipment from China.

 

[wwwAngels]

I just ordered my first order with Nexaph. Not sure what to expect, but it was a pre order to be shipped this week. I’ll keep ya posted

Nexaph is the beginner's gray market. It's basically like having training wheels. They are easy to use, take Paypal, not the cheapest, but cheaper than single vials, and they are pretty legit. Lots of people order from Nexaph and get the products tested. The testing generally comes out pure with a little overfill. This can change on a dime, but so far, so good.

 

[Fisherman2356]

Nexaph is the beginner's gray market. It's basically like having training wheels. They are easy to use, take Paypal, not the cheapest, but cheaper than single vials, and they are pretty legit. Lots of people order from Nexaph and get the products tested. The testing generally comes out pure with a little overfill. This can change on a dime, but so far, so good.

You committed the mortal sin on these forums (speak nicely of Nexaph) 😂😂

 

[ZippityDooDah]

You committed the mortal sin on these forums (speak nicely of Nexaph) 😂😂

I have no issue with people sharing their experiences with Nextel (or any other vendor) as long as they are genuine and not shills motivated by discounts or free stuff.

 

[JKLIN]

If what I'm going to start calling "the list people" really wanted to help newbies, they would be making lists of which vendors to AVOID instead of which vendors they think (or are paid or otherwise incentivized to include) are worthy of those newbies blind faith and hard-earned money; yet I don't think I've seen such a list in at least the past year (probably longer).

If the list people want to be really helpful to newbies and the community at large, here are some suggested lists they could create that would be far more useful than the usual style of vendor lists:

• A list of vendors to avoid (including details of why such as refusing to remedy bad products, altering test results, failing to deliver products, failing to follow-through on re-ship guarantees for lost or seized shipments, etc.).
• A list of factors newbies (and others) can use evaluate vendors on their own.
• A list of all the resources available both here on this forum and elsewhere that will help newbies gain the knowledge and skills to make informed purchasing decisions.
• A list of the factors that go into determining one's own risk tolerance.

And on and on.

As I mentioned previously, I completely understand the desire to help newbies - that was and remains a prime motivator behind the creation of this forum. What I still don't understand and nobody has managed to explain thus far (other than the generic "to help") is why some folks feel so compelled to compile and distribute these lists; as if it's an almost religious calling.

Oh, sorry. I'll rethink my comments. Thank you for explaining to me. I guess I don't know how things work here.

 

[zpped]

but so far, so good.

Problem is every 4 months or so he has an epic fuck up like foreign objects included in the vial or randomly experimenting with excipients.

 

[Super Trips]

Problem is every 4 months or so he has an epic fuck up like foreign objects included in the vial or randomly experimenting with excipients.

I love how people think this biz is all perfect with no problems
yall love to trash cain on here for his mistakes but he is not ripping people off and not sending your purchase like most of the china vendors

 

[nonyabizznez]

Has anyone had success with Alimo Peptide. Wanted to order HG from their supposed USA warehouse but can't find any reliable review from GLP! members? @Beepjeep had complained about them, and never updated to tell us if he ever received the order? If I were a mod, I would literally ban people like that (that never update on a negative experience). I thought this is one of the reasons for being here to let each other know (and update us) of shady experiences with certain suppliers.

I posted this on another thread, but since you asked:

If you're looking for feedback on ALM Peptides (Eric) scroll back in his Discord chat to late May when his "guarantee" and several 3rd party results paid by recipients were put on hold while Eric seemed to be fishing for a better lab result. Here's a customer's take:

T60 was tested by Jano & Peptides as T46, T53, T56 & T58. It's too inconsistent to dose safely. Eric ghosted 2 different test groups and now has decided that a 17% credit or T10 (that the customer will have to pay shipping & testing again will suffice). Also note, the customers impacted were super patient since early March trying to handle it privately.