Why are GLPs/peptides so often sent in for testing by customers?

[temp57]

Hey everyone, I’m quite new to GLP’s in the grey market and i’m curious as to why many people like to test the GLP’s and peptides they receive from Chinese vendors.

I know that it’s to make sure the product they receive is actually what they ordered and not some mysterious powder, but…

Is there a decent chance that these sellers may be selling fake/unpure peptides? Wouldn’t these vendors want to make sure to maintain a good reputation?

Thanks!

 

[littledragon25]

The biggest issue isn't fakes but mistakes.

• overfills which means you take a higher dose than planned, leading to side effects
• underfills, meaning you take a lower dose than planned, leading to thinking it isn't working.
• 0 peptides, which happens rarely but does happen!
• mixed peptides, meaning you don't really know what you're taking and could be quite unwell from side effects
• sterility and endotoxin issues from the factory, increasing the chances of ISRs and illness
• low purity from high levels of degradation, suggesting an issue with the storage and ultimately impacting your dosage.
• incorrect labelling so you are sent the wrong peptide, which again doesn't happen often but has happened.

Vendors are not generally malicious but mistakes do happen so testing provides a level of assurance to those of us using these peptides that we are taking what we think we are, in the quantities we think we are.

 

[Grogu]

Total newbie to grey, but a reason (in addition to all the things @littledragon25 mentions) that I'm considering sending a vial for testing is that even if I pay for a test all on my own, my cost per mg will be significantly cheaper than what I paid for over the last year for compounded and brand tirz. Significantly cheaper, so there is definitely room to spend on testing.

 

[m100568]

Vendors are not generally malicious but mistakes do happen so testing provides a level of assurance to those of us using these peptides that we are taking what we think we are, in the quantities we think we are.

The China peptides aren't produced in FDA inspected facilites. Mistakes happen in those facilities too, but are so rare that they make the news. You can generally feel confident in drugs produced in an FDA inspected facility. We, the grey market users, basically are the FDA inspectors. The burden, and the risk, are entirely on us. If you are entering the world of the grey market it is important that you understand that distinction.

 

[thatsrich]

Total newbie to grey, but a reason (in addition to all the things @littledragon25 mentions) that I'm considering sending a vial for testing is that even if I pay for a test all on my own, my cost per mg will be significantly cheaper than what I paid for over the last year for compounded and brand tirz. Significantly cheaper, so there is definitely room to spend on testing.

Absolutely right, I think it cost me roughly 5-7% of what I was paying for brand and instead of dancing around each month to try get some kind of 'deal' signing up to new pharmacies which are unreliable, I have 2 years worth in my freezer. I now feel far more comfortable, which is silly really I should be less sure going down this road.. but I'm happy.

 

[dogmom]

Some companies don't care about reputation. If you get sick or die, there is nothing you can do against them.

They care about money and will sell you whatever to make a dollar. If they develop a bad reputation they just close up that company name and start using another company name.

 

[juGGaKNot]

Because even if you test it alone it's still 4-5 times cheaper than the pharmacy

And yes, you have to test each purchase

 

[hexagonal]

Some companies don't care about reputation. If you get sick or die, there is nothing you can do against them.

They care about money and will sell you whatever to make a dollar. If they develop a bad reputation they just close up that company name and start using another company name.

Exactly this.

There is zero legal recourse for you or surviving family members if shit goes wrong with something sold to you by a Chinese UGL, so the only incentive they have is to protect their reputation... but we see new names in this space pop up all the time and get massive quantities of orders as soon as they appear. Are they actually new people? Just rebrands? Plenty of the latter have been found. So we know that reputation means nothing either.

 

[geoguy78]

Hey everyone, I’m quite new to GLP’s in the grey market and i’m curious as to why many people like to test the GLP’s and peptides they receive from Chinese vendors.

I know that it’s to make sure the product they receive is actually what they ordered and not some mysterious powder, but…

Is there a decent chance that these sellers may be selling fake/unpure peptides? Wouldn’t these vendors want to make sure to maintain a good reputation?

Thanks!

Because people obsess over it, and the labs really like the money. I honestly think that some people find it fun forking out cash for testing, like it's part of the "game" of playing gray market peptides. The same folks would buy pills from IndiaMart and swallow them down no questions asked, but something about injecting tiny amounts of peptide causes people to want to throw wheelbarrows worth of cash at Jano. Bad product happens but it's exceedingly rare. When it does happen, it's usually a case of getting less than you paid for (underfill), sometimes (very rarely) nothing that you paid for(zero pep). Mixups where the wrong product gets sent out also happen very rarely. And I haven't seen a confirmed report (that I believe) of someone actually being harmed yet.

I'm not saying don't test, or that testing bad. But people get carried away in my opinion. I'm convinced that what you see here, this culture of constantly talking about testing, purity, etc.. also on Peppys, STG, and some other popular groups, is actually a very small percent of people who actually buy and inject gray market peptides. The vast majority of people (and everyone I personally know in real life who does this stuff), buy their peps and inject them without any sort of test whatsoever. And they are still alive and losing weight.