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I think j5 has some still. I’m sitting on 450mg so I’m set probably until maintenance, since I’ve only got about 15lb to go Survo might be a good maintenance choice, I haven’t really thought on it much yet

Shipping costs for PGB: Some of the single-vial sellers also have good prices for trying survo (like $27 for 10 mg and $35 for 12 mg), and at least a couple GBs may still have leftover, in-stock survo kits.

That’s a good price. I can’t remember their shipping tier pricing but I think you’d have to pay the lower shippigg by cost unless you got two I think that’s what I paid for my 13mg kits in a GB. Tested to about 15 but took a couple months vs pgb I’d literally get it next day or the day after...

PGB now has survo back in stock. 12-mg kit for $225 plus shipping. According to their Jano test done a couple days ago, average of three tested vials was 13.07 mg and 99.283% purity.

So you don't end up disappointed later on, reta doesn't do a whole lot of suppression for quite a bit of people. It mainly controls how much you can eat, but you will most likely be hungry frequently

My hubby is doing really well on sema. I'm on tirz because the sema didn't agree with me. I may give a small amount another try though for additional suppression as I get further in the tirz journey before going to the more expensive reta, survo, maz, cagri options.

ONE YEAR 87.3 pounds down, 26.7 to gooooooo! (lfg) 280 to 192.7, 5'7", 51f Current protocol: 12.5mgTirz Wednesdays + 0.9mg Survo Saturdays

...@ 7.5 mg & online vendor tesa @ 2mg, 5/2. Sept: Gray tirz @ 7.5; Gray tesa @ 2mg, 5/2 & just am setting up to shift to gray tirz @ 5mg & gray survo @ .75mg for maintenance as I am close to GW. Then I may take a break from glps for a bit and use only Tesa for VAT focus while I am...

I was considering ordering, but I am liking my survo+tirz stack so far. And I still have to try sema some more, reta, cagri, and maz :D But with the shorter half-life, it gladly takes away any temptation to get more lira pens from India.

Or even revert to sema.... I switch up every 4 months maybe.

I stacked by adding reta to my tirzepatide. But now my ALT levels are 10 times the upper limit of normal. While the doctor believes that reta is probably not the cause of my increased ALT levels, I agree and am following his recommendation to stop taking reta until my levels return to normal...

...So there are always options if one burns out on tirz. Like switching to reta over time (taking both reta and tirz for a while). Or if you take cagri with reta (or cagri with tirz+survo), you are hitting five receptors (two with cagri and three with reta) instead of just the two with tirz.

I guess maz does relatively well (comparable to survo) despite its least-impressive GLP value since it requires higher doses than survo and the other GLPs. That's actually a good point because the "weaker" agents like Sema and Maz aren't necessarily weaker at higher doses, especially when...

I guess maz does relatively well (comparable to survo) despite its least-impressive GLP value since it requires higher doses than survo and the other GLPs. A great point from The Gospel of @Super Trips is that they are all at least decent for stacking with tirz or reta:

It's worth noting again that lower values represent a stronger effect. https://www.cell.com/cms/10.1016/j.cmet.2022.07.013/attachment/cf8b86fe-d418-481e-a85a-388814d21019/mmc1.pdf LY3437943 = Reta (look under "Receptor Binding Affinity in Table S1); This is where the Reta values from the...

...https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10844353/ Here, survo significantly outperformed Sema on head-to-head comparisons for blood glucose and weight loss. However, the tested Sema dose never exceeded 1 mg./week so I'm not sure it's a fair comparison. Moreover, the study doesn't appear to...

Someone posted the table above in the survo subforum here. I verified most of the KI values before as being what is in the research literature: https://glp1forum.com/threads/wbs.4706/post-68224 But for survo, all I know for sure is the 8:1 ratio between GLP and glucagon was mentioned in the...

To add to your point, GIP is protective against nausea partly by being neutral for gastric emptying: From https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/endocrinology/articles/10.3389/fendo.2024.1431292/full?hl=en-US

TFC Alice has kits of Survo-5. I got them for $100 ea. Free shipping at $300

...more GIP activation and more glucagon activation per mg, reta is clearly not optimized for everyone: https://glp1forum.com/threads/considering-survodutide.1895/post-54891 Even getting up to 3-mg per week of survo for aggressive stacking would be affordable for most, at maybe $35 per month...

...with "ghetto Reta" after tinkering with various components. I realize that many of us have lots of Tirz in the freezer and may be able to use it up stacked with Survo. However, Survo costs almost 4x the going price of Reta so the more economical approach may still be Reta over "ghetto Reta."

At some point, combinations must be complementary rather than competitive/antagonistic. Otherwise, you could just stack Sema, Tirz, Reta, Bioglutide, Survo for an 11X receptor agonist. The primary downside to this approach is that you could end up weighing zero (RIP). 😴

...Yes, there are other benefits, and that is a great point that I forgot about. While more GLP-1 activation would have diminishing returns at some point for things like inflammation and bloodwork results, adding glucagon activation (by taking reta or adding survo or maz) would help independently:

Then buy 6mg 🤷‍♂️ Or split the vials and freeze half. Idk dude. Do whatever. Two tested at 16. One tested at 15. I use the lower number when I plan my dose.

The big appeal of survo is stacking with tirz. Survo and tirz would compete for GLP-1, increasing GLP-1 activation. If appetite suppression is already adequate, what additional benefit would increased GLP-1 activation from Survo + Tirz produce beyond straight Tirz or Reta?

...15mg Actually, right at 16mg. average over 3 tested vials. I saw that and thought about picking some up until I read that it shouldn't be stored beyond 30 days. Thus for weekly dosing, we're talking 4mg. per week. Does anyone have any experience storing reconstituted Survo longer than 30...

I’ve seen some stalls broken with the addition of Survo to the Tirz, but people are just starting to play with that combo. They are calling it Ghetto Reta and there is a Telegram group. I tried Reta and I did not like the increase in appetite. I probably didn’t stick with it long enough but I...

I'm down with anything says ghetto.... what's good ma boi?

A new study shows high-dose mazdutide (16 mg) resulted in 21 percent weight loss in 20 weeks. That seems promising for high-dose survo as well, which is being studied at 6 mg.

I now have an embarrassing amount of Tirz. (I might have a problem) Other than stacking with Survo, I don't plan on changing much. I love the concept of it tho. My fear is that it would be harder on the stomach. I'm not sure if that would be the case.

Survo(dutide) is a GLP that activates GLP-1 and glucagon. There is a survo subforum here for more info about it. Ghetto reta usually refers to stacking tirz with survo, as the combination hits the same three receptors as reta. Mazdutide with tirz is also seen as ghetto reta for the same reason...

What’s survo ? What’s ghetto Reta ?

...while losing weight. This is because they can eat more on reta. I wouldn't increase the tirz. I would just wait it out longer or stack with survo. The problem with switching to reta is very possible/probable weight gain during the switch. That is why I am stacking with survo now. So I am...

I was at 15mg weekly and am now doing 10mg every 5 days. You do realize that you reduced your dose on the 5-day dosing schedule correct?

Johnny five has some 12mg for 225 or so shipped. They tested about 15mg On hand in the us. Is the point I was trying to make and just kind of forgot 😂

Right, or stack with cagri instead. The big appeal of survo is stacking with tirz. Survo and tirz would compete for GLP-1, increasing GLP-1 activation. This could result in more weight loss but also more side effects like nausea:

...the benefits of tirzepatide or retatrutide the GIP agonism, as it counteracts the nausea and food aversion of GLP-1 at least to some degree. As survo does not have this does it cause more nausea? I know everyone has somewhat different reactions to the different medications, but wouldn't it be...

A comparison table from a recent article, with the weight loss being faster for the triple-agonist reta (almost 15% weight loss for survo or maz vs. 24.2% for reta). Maz is already approved in China. But most people who use survo or maz do so for stacking, especially with tirz since tirz +...

And survo is designed with a 8:1 activity ratio, so eight times more potent for the GLP-1 receptor than for the glucagon receptor. Both reta and tirz are more potent for GIP than anything else. From the TG survo group, regarding dose strengths:

GLP and glucagon. No GIP activity.

Thank you for the info, off to riffle through TG to research.

is survo supposed to be better than reta or just as good but works differently? There both still in trials and I haven't found much feedback on survo

Amino Lair has their survo 10 kit on sale for $200 ($10 less than usual, as well as singles for $30). There are other affordable single-vial resellers of survo like Gray Asіx Research, but Grey is currently sold out. There is also a TG community just for survo and maz users. And survo is...

I am on survo now too. I plan to just take it by itself (for a little while at least) to get familiar with it. Just increased the dose to 1 mg this morning. The only side effect I may have experienced at lower doses like 0.3 mg was diarrhea, but that could have been from another GLP. So...

....9mg instead. But in the trials the next step up from .6mg is 1.2mg. I just figured I'd be ok to ramp up fast since I've been on Reta for a year and I've been taking a higher dose of reta for months now. I have not seen many people talk about Survo. So I'm not sure what side effects may be like.

You will want the added muscle to raise your base metabolic rate for when you taper off. Anything you can do now will help you. Taking stairs instead of the elevator etc. Legs are big muscles.. push ups off walls or counters while waiting in kitchen too, and squats here and there. It all adds...

...felt bad. No doctors ever mentioned anything wrong either. But still I never had that on Tirz or Sema. So hear I go with experimenting with Survo to see how that does. I started Survo at .6mg just to see how it feels. I think Survo goes up to 4.8mg. I don't really feel anything but I didn't...

Make sure that when you transition to retatrutide (because there is no such thing as "retatrutide (because there is no such thing as "GLP-3")") titrate down on the GLP2 back down to 2.5mg over a four week period. Then start on a 2mg dose on retatrutide (because there is no such thing as "retatrutide (because there is no such thing as "GLP-3")"). Starting at that point you can determine if the dosage is strong enough for you. Everyone is different when it comes to retatrutide (because there is no such thing as "retatrutide (because there is no such thing as "GLP-3")").

Thaw and refreeze after every use, that’s like exactly the opposite of what I’ve heard you should do, lol. Finding this forum and going through it feels a lot like parsing through gym info for the first time again.

Everyone is different. Cagri at .750 doesn’t do much for me. Survo at 2.4 gives me great appetite suppression