Addiction to incretin mimetics

[Superfluous]

I got myself addicted to exercise/resistance training before I took a GLP1 - I felt so much better in life weighing 30lbs less while having gained strength and muscle. The GLP1 (started in August) was simply a tool to help me reach my leaning up goals faster. I'm likely to stop using them when I need to go on a bulk (in maybe 10-15lbs time). Unless new studies come out showing long term health damage then I'm likely to keep these drugs in my armory forever, but I'll only take them if they are helping to achieve a goal.

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

I think there is a difference with insulin. They stop using insulin they die.
We stop using incretin mimetics we don't die. At least not immediately.

I stop using it and I go from being a prediabetic into a full blown diabetic. Im taking it to prevent this from happening. Including healthy eating and exercise as well. If I need to be on these drugs for life then so be it. Better than becoming a diabetic.

 

[Doxyisfoxy]

I don't know if it's addiction in the typical sense, but I do think there is something going on that can be discussed. I've mentioned this a few times, but I feel like I've replaced binge eating with shopping for these substances. I've also just taken another max dose zep bound shot multiple days early, because the temptations of christmas and new years food was getting to me, so maybe I am displaying some typical addiction behavior by making excuses to behave like this. I'll be curious to see how I handle all of this once I hit my goal weight, because my initial plan was to slowly cut my usage down and then stop, but I can see that idea slowly changing as that time closes in.

I agree that peptides and peptide research has kind of become its own obsession. Though I look at it more like it filled a void that food addiction left and not a new addiction altogether.

My husband is almost 10 years sober from alcohol. In that time, especially in the beginning, one of the unexpected things that needs to be dealt with is: what do you do with all the free time? Drinking used to take up a significant portion of his time and when he stopped he had all this unfilled time on his hands. I think that is what happened to me and food. I used to spend so much time thinking about what I’m going to eat, when, how much time until I can allow myself to have lunch, there are cookies in the cabinet, don’t eat them, ok so I ate one, how do I adjust my calories for the rest of the day to account for it, is it dinner yet, what are we having, what about after dinner. I was preoccupied ALL the time. So if we’re going to talk about addiction, 100% I was addicted to food. And now with the medication, I have all this free time on my hands to think about… getting more medication. I am constantly scrolling through this forum just to fill my time. I’m hoping that fades and I can just ride off into the sunset, living my mundane life, taking my shots once a week indefinitely, but in a boring way.

 

[CallieKat]

I would say it’s not a true addiction that is akin to alcohol or illicit drugs.

How many drugs do you want to stop for special occasions like vacations or holidays? I know I take a 1-2 week break on purpose for some occasions.

If you are at goal and not diabetic you can certainly stop on purpose and be happy about it.

Not sure it’s so easy to do that with classic addicting substances.

 

[scarywood75]

Addiction might be a big word here, invested would be more accurate.

To me it's no different than anything I've discovered a passion for in my life, it's something new that I find very interesting and like all my past passions it's gonna get boring at some point, or less interesting.

 

[Dee X]

Addiction might be a big word here, invested would be more accurate.

To me it's no different than anything I've discovered a passion for in my life, it's something new that I find very interesting and like all my past passions it's gonna get boring at some point, or less interesting.

If we do use the word addicted though, sure as hell beats being addicted to food and being depressed.

 

[scarywood75]

If we do use the word addicted though, sure as hell beats being addicted to food and being depressed.

 

[mostlydamp]

I think sometimes peptide enthusiasts seem like addicts to me because they behave a lot like poly substance abusers as we called them in the ED. And this type of forum attracts a lot of these type of people who are very "into" sourcing, obtaining, and researching these things. So there seem like tons of people who are almost obsessed with glp1s and other peptides, and will take whatever they can get their hands on regardless of the risk of cancer, injecting micro plastics, etc. There is a lot of high risk behavior which is why I tend not to get on here anymore.

What we don't see on here, on Peppy's, or other forums are the thousands upon thousands of people who use these drugs normally. These people and those in the studies would be foaming at the mouth asking their doctors for more if this was an addiction but that's just not happening. If they stop, they probably get fat again though. It could be dependency but nothing points toward addiction other than the behavior of groups that I noted above.

 

[AndyPanda]

I think sometimes peptide enthusiasts seem like addicts to me because they behave a lot like poly substance abusers as we called them in the ED. And this type of forum attracts a lot of these type of people who are very "into" sourcing, obtaining, and researching these things. So there seem like tons of people who are almost obsessed with glp1s and other peptides, and will take whatever they can get their hands on regardless of the risk of cancer, injecting micro plastics, etc. There is a lot of high risk behavior which is why I tend not to get on here anymore.

What we don't see on here, on Peppy's, or other forums are the thousands upon thousands of people who use these drugs normally. These people and those in the studies would be foaming at the mouth asking their doctors for more if this was an addiction but that's just not happening. If they stop, they probably get fat again though. It could be dependency but nothing points toward addiction other than the behavior of groups that I noted above.

Many of the true addicts I have encountered were given a prescription by a physician or other “qualified” professional and lost control. Or, they started out with something harmful and illicit that people minimize, like marijuana and the gates open.

There is a difference between an addict and someone who displays traits of an addictive personality. What I generally observe on here is people trying to improve their health. The GLPs give them faith in peptides, and they see the benefits so they want to try others.

People are being far too judgmental.

 

[clayd]

Anecdotally I caught myself thinking this week I'm going to be sad when I get to maintenance and have to manage living with a more normal appetite again. Not because of weight gain, but because I really seem to enjoy the feeling of appetite suppression and general disinterest in food. I wouldn't say it's approaching addiction but I really do kinda like how this stuff makes me feel

 

[chmuse]

Anecdotally I caught myself thinking this week I'm going to be sad when I get to maintenance and have to manage living with a more normal appetite again. Not because of weight gain, but because I really seem to enjoy the feeling of appetite suppression and general disinterest in food. I wouldn't say it's approaching addiction but I really do kinda like how this stuff makes me feel

My grocery bill is going to go up again Right now I'm basically just paying for my partner to eat and me to snack. I kind of like spending half as much on food.

 

[AllGlory2God]

I think some of us get addicted to trying different peptides. I don’t think it’s a bad thing if protocols are followed and for certain ones cycles as well.

 

[hexagonal]

Many of the true addicts I have encountered were given a prescription by a physician or other “qualified” professional and lost control. Or, they started out with something harmful and elicit that people minimize, like marijuana and the gates open.

There is a difference between an addict and someone who displays traits of an addictive personality. What I generally observe on here is people trying to improve their health. The GLPs give them faith in peptides, and they see the benefits so they want to try others.

People are being far too judgmental.

I think you mean illicit.

Anyway, the idea that marijuana is some sort of gateway drug has been debated by science for decades and is largely (though not entirely) discredited, and the majority of users of harder drugs used nicotine and alcohol before they used marijuana. There isn't full scientific consensus, but the majority believe that it's a wide variety of risk factors that ultimately lead people to use and abuse harder drugs, and that marijuana is not causative - just an earlier step in the process.

I always knew I was open to trying most anything that wasn't absurdly dangerous at least once, and I was even more interested in things like shrooms and LSD than pot before I started smoking the devil's lettuce. Pot came first just because it was more readily available.

 

[AndyPanda]

I think you mean illicit.

Anyway, the idea that marijuana is some sort of gateway drug has been debated by science for decades and is largely (though not entirely) discredited, and the majority of users of harder drugs used nicotine and alcohol before they used marijuana. There isn't full scientific consensus, but the majority believe that it's a wide variety of risk factors that ultimately lead people to use and abuse harder drugs, and that marijuana is not causative - just an earlier step in the process.

I always knew I was open to trying most anything that wasn't absurdly dangerous at least once, and I was even more interested in things like shrooms and LSD than pot before I started smoking the devil's lettuce. Pot came first just because it was more readily available.

I corrected “illicit.” You just made my point by stating that “Pot came first.” My response was elicited.