Anyone still using HK peptides

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I recently got their results from the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk and some peptides I use scored low. Anyone notice a decline in quality or had issues recently
 
I still use them, the communication and response time is good, besides the other big players have had too many issues lately and 2 are ghosting customers.
They reported bad because they overfill, not because the peptide is low quality or non-existant in the sample, i'm fine with that.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Anyone trusting Finnrickles "test" results should probably just stick to name brand big pharma products.
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Im trying to learn about the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk, is there a reason you say this?
 
yritchey said:
Im trying to learn about the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk, is there a reason you say this?
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There has to be a reason they are giving this service away. No such thing as a free puppy. Too much money in machines, labor, and all the rest to just be a service to the community. That's my thoughts on it. It is backed by lots of $$$$$$
 
BooneDonk said:
There has to be a reason they are giving this service away. No such thing as a free puppy. Too much money in machines, labor, and all the rest to just be a service to the community. That's my thoughts on it. It is backed by lots of $$$$$$
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Yes they are a startup, backed by Naval Ravikant of AngelList. Let's say they pay an average of $100 per test (it's likely less) because of course the labs are not theirs, so they have no overhead for the equipment or the labs themselves. The number of tests they've run (2663 so far) have cost them a quarter million to date. Startup seed money is often in the 7 figures. The run rate of the business while they develop a business plan will keep them up and running easily through next year and beyond.

None of the conspiracies check out. I've seen speculation that they are the feds, they work for big pharma, and everything inbetween. The DEA, if they are only bad at their job, is on this forum and all of the others, monitoring the entire grey market for both peptides and AAS. They already know all of the CN suppliers, and they have ordered from them and know exactly how the process works. To say something like the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk is a grand conspiracy to inform them or big pharma is the product of a little too much Netflix consumption and tin foil hattery. It's a startup that sees an untapped market. Whether they choose a subscription model (for the labs, us or both), or decide to accept advertising (as bad a decision as that would be), it still makes the most sense that they're accumulating data for now, like any startup would, to monetize it however they choose down the road.
 
Ich habe bereits mehrmals bei HK-Peptide bestellt und bin sowohl mit der Kommunikation als auch mit der Wirksamkeit der Peptide sehr zufrieden!
 
nogainz said:
None of the conspiracies check out.
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None of the benevolent do-gooder theories check out.

I don't think they're feds, or big pharma plants, or anything of the sort. They have a motive - undoubtedly a profit motive - that they are going to great lengths to be completely opaque about by attempting to disguise it as some grand higher calling to make the world a better place for peptide users.

If they can't be transparent and honest about what they're doing and why, there is zero reason to trust or promote anything that they proffer. People sharing their "data" or suggesting that they're a trustworthy means for having peptides tested are allowing themselves to be just another "product" to be used for someone else's profit.

I'm more inclined to believe that this is a collaboration of various peptide vendors (the mystical "cabal" some of the whackos like to prattle on about...) working to manipulate as much of the research peptide industry as possible to their own advantage. Does this make more or less sense than some affluent investors deciding that it's worth their time and substantial financial investment to protect the peptide enthusiast public?
 
nogainz said:
Yes they are a startup, backed by Naval Ravikant of AngelList. Let's say they pay an average of $100 per test (it's likely less) because of course the labs are not theirs, so they have no overhead for the equipment or the labs themselves. The number of tests they've run (2663 so far) have cost them a quarter million to date. Startup seed money is often in the 7 figures. The run rate of the business while they develop a business plan will keep them up and running easily through next year and beyond.

None of the conspiracies check out. I've seen speculation that they are the feds, they work for big pharma, and everything inbetween. The DEA, if they are only bad at their job, is on this forum and all of the others, monitoring the entire grey market for both peptides and AAS. They already know all of the CN suppliers, and they have ordered from them and know exactly how the process works. To say something like the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk is a grand conspiracy to inform them or big pharma is the product of a little too much Netflix consumption and tin foil hattery. It's a startup that sees an untapped market. Whether they choose a subscription model (for the labs, us or both), or decide to accept advertising (as bad a decision as that would be), it still makes the most sense that they're accumulating data for now, like any startup would, to monetize it however they choose down the road.
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I’m more along the lines of @ZippityDooDah’s post. There is always a reason, just say it. Again, no free puppies.
 
Since most of the substances we're injecting into ourselves aren't explicitly illegal to receive, own, or arguably use on ourselves, the most nefarious thing I could see the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk doing would be reporting peptide use to insurance companies so they have a plausible reason to deny future coverage for those customers.
 
BooneDonk said:
There has to be a reason they are giving this service away. No such thing as a free puppy. Too much money in machines, labor, and all the rest to just be a service to the community. That's my thoughts on it. It is backed by lots of $$$$$$
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There ARE free cats. There's a whole system for distributing them, I've never paid money for a cat and in fact have to turn around and walk the other way in places in my neighborhood because no, you can't come home with me, I'm maxed out.

They don't stay free for very long; they want food and vaccinations and toys and beds and such. But you can take one home for no money down!
 
randompersonrandom said:
There ARE free cats. There's a whole system for distributing them, I've never paid money for a cat and in fact have to turn around and walk the other way in places in my neighborhood because no, you can't come home with me, I'm maxed out.

They don't stay free for very long; they want food and vaccinations and toys and beds and such. But you can take one home for no money down!
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Thank you for proving my point. 🤣🤣
 
ZippityDooDah said:
I'm more inclined to believe that this is a collaboration of various peptide vendors (the mystical "cabal" some of the whackos like to prattle on about...) working to manipulate as much of the research peptide industry as possible to their own advantage. Does this make more or less sense than some affluent investors deciding that it's worth their time and substantial financial investment to protect the peptide enthusiast public?
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If that is true they are doing a terrible job, allowing hundreds of lab tests north of 99% purity and within 5% of stated fill volume to leak out from their apparent competition. If all that existed was the scoring system I would call this theory a reasonable coinflip to be true. But why on earth if that is what's happening, and that is their motive, would they give away what amounts to a majority of positive lab data on their competitors?
 
BooneDonk said:
I’m more along the lines of @ZippityDooDah’s post. There is always a reason, just say it. Again, no free puppies.
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It's not free. It's zero cost. Like Gmail, or Facebook. Neither of those startups are free, but their models thrive on our participation, and have shaped an ethos of zero cost service in exchange for data aggregation. the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk is no different.

I maintain that none of the conspiracies, including ZippityDooDah's, check out vs. the straight forward observation that they are investing low dollars into zero cost-to-consumer testing in exchange for our data generation, on which they will build a business model for profit later on.

In order for the theories to hold water the handful of labs (several of whom do testing to generate COAs for US-based peptide retailers) would need to be in on it, to a degree that they fudge their numbers in exchange for bolstering the data for whatever cabal is running it behind the scenes. But again they continue to release weekly dozens of new excellent test results for CN-based peptides. They are really sucking at this if that's the agenda.
 
nogainz said:
If that is true they are doing a terrible job, allowing hundreds of lab tests north of 99% purity and within 5% of stated fill volume to leak out from their apparent competition. If all that existed was the scoring system I would call this theory a reasonable coinflip to be true. But why on earth if that is what's happening, and that is their motive, would they give away what amounts to a majority of positive lab data on their competitors?
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I said that I'm more inclined to believe that it's a collaboration compared to surreptitious benevolence; not that it was the actually the case.

Despite your staunch defense, you still haven't offered a single plausible explanation of their largesse that checks out.
 
byefatlicia said:
Das freut mich zu hören. Übrigens, ich habe Ihre Nachricht und meine Antwort mit KI übersetzt
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Ich habe es satt, übersetzen zu müssen! Nazis sind in Arizona einmarschiert?
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„Sie und ich, wir sind Spieler … Wir sortieren Karten, die wir nicht sehen können“ Chris Stapleton
FIFY. 😉
 
ZippityDooDah said:
I said that I'm more inclined to believe that it's a collaboration compared to surreptitious benevolence; not that it was the actually the case.

Despite your staunch defense, you still haven't offered a single plausible explanation of their largesse that checks out.
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Yes it's a100% certainty that they are not doing what they say. And its more plausible that they are running an inept collaboration whereby they divulge favorable lab results on their competitors' products.

Agree to disagree I guess.
 
JoonyO said:
Ich habe es satt, übersetzen zu müssen! Nazis sind in Arizona einmarschiert?
😲 🤣
„Sie und ich, wir sind Spieler … Wir sortieren Karten, die wir nicht sehen können“ Chris Stapleton
FIFY. 😉
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我勒个去? Bea Arthur
 
randompersonrandom said:
There ARE free cats. There's a whole system for distributing them, I've never paid money for a cat and in fact have to turn around and walk the other way in places in my neighborhood because no, you can't come home with me, I'm maxed out.

They don't stay free for very long; they want food and vaccinations and toys and beds and such. But you can take one home for no money down!
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They're free until they get hit by a car and cost over £7000 in vet fees! My little freebie cost me a fortune this last week!
 
I suspect it will work like Yelp where the vendors will be extorted once the public makes them the arbiter of good or bad.
 
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