AOD 9604

Bacteriostatic water0.9% benzyl. Do I have to keep it in the refrigerator? I have read no refrigeration needed , use acetic acid instead ect... what is the actual protocol for this peptide? Thx
 
Msandov7 said:
Bacteriostatic water0.9% benzyl. Do I have to keep it in the refrigerator? I have read no refrigeration needed , use acetic acid instead ect... what is the actual protocol for this peptide? Thx
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Sterile water would probably work better if it is that sensitive.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
Many suppliers have started providing special BAC water with some acetic acid to lower the pH to avoid reconstitution problems with AOD as since late last year it seems like the raw producers and/or suppliers are failing to properly buffer the solution for proper pH prior to lyophilization.
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So, if it is the buffer causing the gelling, would filtering correct this?
 
AndyPanda said:
So, if it is the buffer causing the gelling, would filtering correct this?
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No. Ideally the solution should be buffered to reconstitute at the desired pH with normal BAC or sterile water. Adjusting pH is a chemical process, not a mechanical one like filtering. Many people have figured out how to adjust the pH of their BAC water with acetic acid on their own, but it's not something that most people should be attempting.
 
I've been using AOD-9604 for about a month now. I've bought it from several US vendors and had no issues with gelling. Nice clear liquid with no residue or lumps.

I just got a kit from a Chinese vendor recently, and the AOD-9604 looks awful when I reconstitute it. Within a day, it is just ugly. Cloudy with some huge floaters. How much acetic acid, of what concentration, are we talking about adding here to change the pH enough to stop the gelling?

I've seen Acetic Acid 0.6% Solution for sale.
 
AndyPanda said:
If it is gelling, it’s probably bad. What reconstitution solution are you using?
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Kimerachems sells AOD with PH balance water to avoid yelling on the vile. Never tried it before but it is the only vendor out there that comes with PH water.
 
Did you purchase the water only or both, PH Water and AOD?
 
BenevolentMrTang said:
I got both because I needed some AOD, anyway.
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Thanks for the info! I saw they sell the acetic acid solution for AOD reconstitution, but the COA for AOD-9604 is below 99%, which raises some concerns for me and other buyers. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the quality of their AOD!
 
BenevolentMrTang said:
I've been using AOD-9604 for about a month now. I've bought it from several US vendors and had no issues with gelling. Nice clear liquid with no residue or lumps.

I just got a kit from a Chinese vendor recently, and the AOD-9604 looks awful when I reconstitute it. Within a day, it is just ugly. Cloudy with some huge floaters. How much acetic acid, of what concentration, are we talking about adding here to change the pH enough to stop the gelling?

I've seen Acetic Acid 0.6% Solution for sale.
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Would you mind PM'ing me which US sellers? I really wanted to try it but was concerned about reports of helping so I held off on buying.
 
tyrus-pgh said:
I've been getting mind at Tydes. I've gone through three so far, and it's not gelling.
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I've been thinking about buying from Tydes, Kimera, or Skye. Skye is my preferred domestic vendor but no one has feedback about their AOD, and Kimera is having a sale right now.
 
jrpr006 said:
Thanks for the info! I saw they sell the acetic acid solution for AOD reconstitution, but the COA for AOD-9604 is below 99%, which raises some concerns for me and other buyers. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the quality of their AOD!
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I’ll let you know after I use it!
 
BenevolentMrTang said:
I’ll let you know after I use it!
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So, I reconstitued the AOD-9604 that I ordered from Kimera earlier tonight. It is absolute garbage. It looked awful as soon as I added the pH balanced water. All cloudy with some crystals. I put it in the refrigerator and just looked at it moments ago. It's actually even worse now. Cloudy with crystals everywhere. I removed the label to get a really good look at it, and the entire vial is full of crystals in the liquid and on the sides of the vial. I threw it in the trash. I will never order anything from Kimera again.
 
BenevolentMrTang said:
So, I reconstitued the AOD-9604 that I ordered from Kimera earlier tonight. It is absolute garbage. It looked awful as soon as I added the pH balanced water. All cloudy with some crystals. I put it in the refrigerator and just looked at it moments ago. It's actually even worse now. Cloudy with crystals everywhere. I removed the label to get a really good look at it, and the entire vial is full of crystals in the liquid and on the sides of the vial. I threw it in the trash. I will never order anything from Kimera again.
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Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear this. I've never used this vendor but it might be worth contacting them with feedback about your experience. There are so many reports of "geling" with AOD that I'm starting to understand why it was never adopted for therapeutic use. It doesn't really seem stable, and appears to have only a moderate effect on weight loss.

I've heard good things about the AOD from Skye, may be worth a try.
 
noteablequotable said:
Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear this. I've never used this vendor but it might be worth contacting them with feedback about your experience. There are so many reports of "geling" with AOD that I'm starting to understand why it was never adopted for therapeutic use. It doesn't really seem stable, and appears to have only a moderate effect on weight loss.

I've heard good things about the AOD from Skye, may be worth a try.
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I've used AOD from Simple Peptide and Amplified Amino, and their stuff is great. Dissolves instantly and does not gel with regular Hospira. The AOD from ASC gels a bit, but improves when I use pH balanced water. I did contact Kimera, so perhaps I'll hear back from them tomorrow.
 
BenevolentMrTang said:
So, I reconstitued the AOD-9604 that I ordered from Kimera earlier tonight. It is absolute garbage. It looked awful as soon as I added the pH balanced water. All cloudy with some crystals. I put it in the refrigerator and just looked at it moments ago. It's actually even worse now. Cloudy with crystals everywhere. I removed the label to get a really good look at it, and the entire vial is full of crystals in the liquid and on the sides of the vial. I threw it in the trash. I will never order anything from Kimera again.
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I believe you are supposed to use acetic acid for AOD.
 
AndyPanda said:
I believe you are supposed to use acetic acid for AOD.
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I think that's the point of their pH balanced water that they sell with their AOD. It does help with ASC's AOD, which can sometimes gel. The other suppliers' AOD (Simple Peptide, Amplified Amino) is perfectly clear with regular Hospira with no gelling.
 
BenevolentMrTang said:
I think that's the point of their pH balanced water that they sell with their AOD. It does help with ASC's AOD, which can sometimes gel. The other suppliers' AOD (Simple Peptide, Amplified Amino) is perfectly clear with regular Hospira with no gelling.
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I see. Sorry it sucked bro.
 
I got mine from Skype and it gelled but I read somewhere that u just run it under hot water for 30 sec and inject and that’s what I’ve been doing, broke my stall I’m on my 3rd week. I also pre fill the syringes right after recon. Also read that helps. Thoughts?
 
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