Bad experience with Amo

[PrimroseHill]

I'm an experienced sema buyer. Previously bought from xce, got screwed over by HT (refunded, thankfully), then ordered from Amo. First Amo order of S10 was perfect. Second order (S10) received in December is garbage. Even doubling the dose there is zero effect. I still had some of my first order left, so tried that again and it worked perfectly, so it's not me. I tried a second vial from the new order a week later. Also bunk.

I contacted Binh. Gave him the serial/reference number and sent photos. Offered to pay postage to return my order to him for a replacement. It's not exactly a big order (£130 inc. shipping). He flat out refused to replace. I know you have to go back and forth with these guys to get them to do anything, but he refused. Told me he 'trusted' his supplier. I asked for copies of independent testing, he refused. Told me to pay for my own test.

I have to admit I was surprised at this reaction as I've only heard good things about them so far, plus I was a repeat customer.

I've done a chargeback so I'm not out any money. Sharing this so it's on record in case anyone else has issues with Amo.

(I'm still learning how to use the new Peppys, but will try and post this there, too).

 

[keangkong]

I believe it's standard practice at most vendors to deny refunds when a buyer claims not to feel any effect from the medication.

 

[chmuse]

I'd honestly get it tested. If amo was hit by zero peps I'd want to know- as of right now a lot of us suspect they're manufacturers, and that would be important information.

 

[PrimroseHill]

I believe it's standard practice at most vendors to deny refunds when a buyer claims not to feel any effect from the medication.

I asked for a replacement and offered to pay shipping, which is pretty standard in my experience.

I'd honestly get it tested. If amo was hit by zero peps I'd want to know- as of right now a lot of us suspect they're manufacturers, and that would be important information.

For sure. I'm a small time buyer tho, rarely spend more than £260/year. Happy to post it to someone if they want to get it tested.

Hopefully I'm an outlier and just had a bad batch but at least it's out there if anyone else does have issues.

 

[keangkong]

I'd honestly get it tested. If amo was hit by zero peps I'd want to know- as of right now a lot of us suspect they're manufacturers, and that would be important information.

My own pet theory is that none of the vendors we deal with are manufacturers. They purchase the vials with the stuff already in it.

 

[JohnnyGobbs]

Quad up the dose and take one for the team

 

[mopo89]

I dunno... seems pretty reasonable to not offer a refund if all you have are "feelz".

Someone on TG may have tested that batch. Amo gets tested a ton, and I haven't heard of any bad batches from them recently.

My own pet theory is that none of the vendors we deal with are manufacturers. They purchase the vials with the stuff already in it.

It may be true with Amo, considering their powder is different from every other vendor.

 

[chmuse]

My own pet theory is that none of the vendors we deal with are manufacturers. They purchase the vials with the stuff already in it.

I think there are probably a few finishers (what I think amolist most likely is) and maybe one or more of them supplies to us, but most probably are more b2b and sell the vials in bulk to the people who then sell to us. Some of whom may be buying in bulk from more than one finisher, which is why the same batch can have more than one color cap (ala QSC)

Then there's the question of how many raw manufacturers there are- I think I've seen the number 4 thrown around a bunch.

I'm nosy so I want to know who is who, but the obfuscation is a necessary evil to keep the grey market around and not taken down.

 

[chmuse]

I dunno... seems pretty reasonable to not offer a refund if all you have are "feelz".

Someone on TG may have tested that batch. Amo gets tested a ton, and I haven't heard of any bad batches from them recently.


It may be true with Amo, considering their powder is different from every other vendor.

Do you know where I could go to see/join in on Amo tests? If the GB I just joined because amo was down doesn't work out they're my next choice.

 

[JohnnyGobbs]

I dunno... seems pretty reasonable to not offer a refund if all you have are "feelz".

Someone on TG may have tested that batch. Amo gets tested a ton, and I haven't heard of any bad batches from them recently.


It may be true with Amo, considering their powder is different from every other vendor.

I have 2 of their r20 kits from like about 2 months ago. Anyone know if those got tested? Just curious. Haven’t tried it yet

 

[Panda King]

I've only made one purchase with Amo and it went well. Just curious, have we heard of any failed tests for their products?