Best pep for building muscle and definition

[CacaoPower]

Wondering where to start here. I’m taking low dose tirz. And I’m 5-10lb within goal weight. So I want to focus more on muscle growth and definition.
Bonus points for a good source recommendation.
Would like to order and get going asap! Thanks!

 

[noggin]

I think you're looking for steroids

 

[CacaoPower]

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I think you're looking for steroids

no

 

[AndyPanda]

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Ipamorelin, and Sermorelin. I like SRY but they have been getting some hate.

 

[keangkong]

Slowing down your weight loss or maintaining a consistent weight should make it easier to gain muscle than it was while losing weight. Upping your protein often helps although it would help if we knew how much protein you eat regularly now.

 

[hexagonal]

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If you're going to be injecting substances into your body to promote muscle growth, steroids are the ones that will provide real effect. This is not me advocating for doing steroids, to be clear.

The closest we have at current on the peptide side are GH secretagogues, but the levels they will get you to are not the levels of IGF-1 etc. that you need to be at to see significant muscle growth.

If there were peptides that gave significant muscle growth gains, the pro bodybuilders would be all over them. And they are all over HGH - but in much larger doses than the equivalent you would get out of ipa/tesa/etc. But for the rest, any peptides they use are for other purposes - injury repair, recovery, help while cutting, etc.

 

[CacaoPower]

Ipamorelin, and Sermorelin. I like SRY but they have been getting some hate.

Chat got recommended to start with CJC-1295 and Ipamorelin. I’ve read a little on Sermorelin which seems nice too.
Anything that helps with muscle recovery would be nice too. Seems like my recovery time is longer. Muscles are sore for longer.
Have not read up on SRY. Is the product still good or what’s the hate about?
Chat gpt recommended peptidesciences . Com and corepeptides.com. I think I’d like to just try one and not commit to a bulk buy.

 

[Nikon1149]

Chat got recommended to start with CJC-1295 and Ipamorelin. I’ve read a little on Sermorelin which seems nice too.
Anything that helps with muscle recovery would be nice too. Seems like my recovery time is longer. Muscles are sore for longer.
Have not read up on SRY. Is the product still good or what’s the hate about?
Chat gpt recommended peptidesciences . Com and corepeptides.com. I think I’d like to just try one and not commit to a bulk buy.

Legitimate question, not trying to be mean, but why do people put any trust in the response from AI large language models? Do you actually know how they work? Have you ever noticed how regularly the top AI google result is just completely wrong?

I'm baffled at how many people talk about what Chat GPT told them and seem to have faith it will be correct. I'm not saying it isn't ever correct, but you can't put trust in it, you have to independently confrim any info. If you have to confirm anyway, what is the point in consulting it?

 

[Healthmaster]

To be honest, stacking trt, retatrutide and hgh is a game changer. I tried everything else, no comparison. These are 4 months apart. Completely changed my physique.

 

[oguard]

There is not much in the way of peptides that truly build muscle. The GH secretagogues are only able to produce a moderate amount of GH and that’s in a younger person with a healthy pituitary gland. If you cut to the chase and use GH, even then, the doses required according to the studies are astronomically high. GH and secretagogues can help make the muscles look full and prevent muscle loss while aiding in fat loss, but they don’t shine in regards to muscle gain. As one of the posters said, if you want that in a drug, then you are talking steroids at that point.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

HGH (which is in fact a peptide) is the answer. But it does require research and bloodwork to avoid giving yourself problems, and if you overdo it you’re going to give yourself diabetes and Andre the Giant face, so do your research.

 

[CacaoPower]

Legitimate question, not trying to be mean, but why do people put any trust in the response from AI large language models? Do you actually know how they work? Have you ever noticed how regularly the top AI google result is just completely wrong?

I'm baffled at how many people talk about what Chat GPT told them and seem to have faith it will be correct. I'm not saying it isn't ever correct, but you can't put trust in it, you have to independently confrim any info. If you have to confirm anyway, what is the point in consulting it?

It’s a start. I need a starting point. I’m not taking the recommendation at face value. I’m looking into and making a post here. Otherwise I would have placed an order already.
I guess I’m trying to find a good starting spot to learn more. Amazon books? I legit don’t know where to learn more besides asking questions. And I hate asking questions and coming off as a newbie.

 

[Nikon1149]

It’s a start. I need a starting point. I’m not taking the recommendation at face value. I’m looking into and making a post here. Otherwise I would have placed an order already.
I guess I’m trying to find a good starting spot to learn more. Amazon books? I legit don’t know where to learn more besides asking questions. And I hate asking questions and coming off as a newbie.

I've aquired a ton of knowledge over the years in regards to what tools are available for enhancement of a persons physical appearance, cognitive performance etc, and I never really ask direct questions unless I am asking about anecdotal experience of particular people.

The most effective way is learning how to use google or another search engine well, when you find a good forum with knowledgeable contributors (google is getting worse and worse for hiding places like this behind pages of sponsored content), then search those websites specifically with the term
site:website.com
which will specifically search those forums.

Obviously reading studies is also great if you can get used to it. I've been doing this kind of research a long time and in my opinion consulting AI LLM's, they are so prone to hallucinations the potential is really high for setting you off on an incorrect line of enquiry, even if you do take it with a pinch of salt, it could result it lots of time wasted before you realise an assumption you took on was incorrect due to the AI.

Just my personal opinion. AI is a long way off being useful except for niche tasks like saving time in writing a peice of python code. Especially when it comes to more fringe topics like peptide research, there just isn't the vast well of data to train them properly yet with fringe topics.