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I'm so frustrated with not being able to sleep. I go days on a couple hours of sleep a day then I crash. I'm going to have to do something. I am so tired all the time.
I might try disip.
 
I'm so frustrated with not being able to sleep. I go days on a couple hours of sleep a day then I crash. I'm going to have to do something. I am so tired all the time.
I might try disip.
DSIP has already helped some people, but I would first try to incorporate some cardio workouts into your daily routine if you aren't already doing so, or just talk to a doctor about it.
 
DSIP has already helped some people, but I would first try to incorporate some cardio workouts into your daily routine if you aren't already doing so, or just talk to a doctor about it.
I do cardio when I can. Right now I am in a awful lupus flare.
 
I've found melatonin (the sleep hormone supplement, not a mispelled pep!) really helps. If you're not keen on that, I believe there are a range of sleep aid hot drinks available in the US without melatonin (sorry I don't know the exact brands) that you could integrate into a sleep-friendly evening routine
 
I've posted this before but it probably bears repeating. I have spent a lot of time working with people on hygiene. It really works. I am not a great sleeper myself, never will be, but I have really locked down the basics and it has helped a lot.

●Go to bed and get up at the same time. This is huge.
●No TV in the bedroom.
●Cold dark room. 68° is supposed to be ideal.
●Ideally no devices an hour before bed. I don't manage this one this, but when you put it down and get into bed DO NOT touch it until you get up for the day! Period ever.
●If you habe trouble falling asleep, look up some mindfulness techniques and practice them.
●A lot of people do better with a fan or sound machine to drown out background noises.
●No caffeine at least 6 hours before bed.
●No big meals or exercise 2 hours before bed. I have found on Tirz I need to eat a smaller dinner than I normally would and eat earlier or my sleep quality suffers.
●The bed is for sleeping (or fornicating) nothing else. If you can't sleep for more than 30 minutes, get out of bed and walk around for 5 minutes. No watching TV or anything else in bed. You want to teach your body that bed is for sleeping only.

If you are consistsnt with all of this you will likely get results. If you don't its probably time for a sleep study. I also make sure I do shots first thing in the AM so it doesn't impact my sleep.
 
I've posted this before but it probably bears repeating. I have spent a lot of time working with people on hygiene. It really works. I am not a great sleeper myself, never will be, but I have really locked down the basics and it has helped a lot.

●Go to bed and get up at the same time. This is huge.
●No TV in the bedroom.
●Cold dark room. 68° is supposed to be ideal.
●Ideally no devices an hour before bed. I don't manage this one this, but when you put it down and get into bed DO NOT touch it until you get up for the day! Period ever.
●If you habe trouble falling asleep, look up some mindfulness techniques and practice them.
●A lot of people do better with a fan or sound machine to drown out background noises.
●No caffeine at least 6 hours before bed.
●No big meals or exercise 2 hours before bed. I have found on Tirz I need to eat a smaller dinner than I normally would and eat earlier or my sleep quality suffers.
●The bed is for sleeping (or fornicating) nothing else. If you can't sleep for more than 30 minutes, get out of bed and walk around for 5 minutes. No watching TV or anything else in bed. You want to teach your body that bed is for sleeping only.

If you are consistsnt with all of this you will likely get results. If you don't its probably time for a sleep study. I also make sure I do shots first thing in the AM so it doesn't impact my sleep.
Yep this, I have tried everything at this point and only thing thing that ever corrects my sleep is proper maintenance. Dsip actually gave me insomnia, glycine gave me multiple awakenings, melatonin 1.5xr deffo helped some. Not massively off sleep length for defo for sleep architect. Most of the herbs you can get for sleep done nothing.
 
I've tried a bunch of things, including DSIP, Epitalon, Melatonin, Magnesium Glycinate. Nothing seems to work well for me.

I'm intrigued by this product called Anesthetized by Blackstone Labs. My hesitation is that it contains an ingredient called Phenibut, which can be habit-forming. Has anyone heard of this?
 
Generally speaking, for those of us who don't have hormonal imbalances or other underlying medical conditions, improving our sleep hygiene can make a significant difference.

I try to stop eating about three hours before bed whenever possible (around 7 p.m. for me) and I make a point of stepping away from screens by 10 p.m. These two alone have had a huge positive impact on both my sleep quality and my mental health.

I think many of us underestimate how much excessive screen time and constant exposure to news and social media can affect our well being. Often, it's not until we intentionally reduce those things that we realise just how much of a difference it makes.
 
Most underrated Peptide for sleep has to be CJC+IPA, sleep score has gone from 60-70 to 80-90 instantly since starting cycle which has been so consistent day to day. Started on 15th May to see the results!

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Most underrated Peptide for sleep has to be CJC+IPA, sleep score has gone from 60-70 to 80-90 instantly since starting cycle which has been so consistent day to day. Started on 15th May to see the results!

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I bought this for that purpose, but hearing the anaphylaxis stories It still sitting in my freezer 7 months later
 
I can attest to CJC+IPA. Since starting it my sleep has significantly improved even though I am taking it first thing in the morning during a fasted state. I am also on Tirz which is why I am choosing the AM pin since Tirz can delay gastric emptying which can blunt the GH pulse.
 
I've found melatonin (the sleep hormone supplement, not a mispelled pep!) really helps. If you're not keen on that, I believe there are a range of sleep aid hot drinks available in the US without melatonin (sorry I don't know the exact brands) that you could integrate into a sleep-friendly evening routine
Melatonin done nothing for me
 
My hesitation is that it contains an ingredient called Phenibut, which can be habit-forming. Has anyone heard of this?
New to me, a brief search indicates I'd nope out on it.
Phenibut Is Neither Proven Nor Safe As A Prosocial Wonder Drug

One of the biggest concerns with phenibut is that it has the potential for physical dependence, withdrawal and addiction.
 
New to me, a brief search indicates I'd nope out on it.
Phenibut Is Neither Proven Nor Safe As A Prosocial Wonder Drug

One of the biggest concerns with phenibut is that it has the potential for physical dependence, withdrawal and addiction.
Yeah, it's just that the reviews of it are so positive. The sensible people seem to use it just a couple times a week to get a good night's sleep. But someone else described the withdrawal symptoms as "brutal". I can't even imagine what that means. I've never been addicted to anything except maybe food.
 
I've found melatonin (the sleep hormone supplement, not a mispelled pep!) really helps.
A peptide alternative is Epitalon, which raises melatonin secretion naturally:

Gemini said:
The significant drop in pineal function that severely disrupts sleep typically occurs in middle age.

Ranking Peptides for Sleep Assistance and Circadian Repair

RankPeptide (Title)Primary TargetResulting Sleep BenefitRepresentative Study TitlePMID
1DSIP (Delta Sleep-Inducing Peptide)HypothalamusDeepens delta-wave (slow-wave) sleepEffects of delta sleep-inducing peptide (DSIP) injections on insomnia6391925
2Epitalon (AEDG Tetrapeptide)PinealocytesRealigns circadian rhythm over timeNormalizing effect of the pineal gland peptides on the daily melatonin rhythm in old monkeys and elderly people17969590
2Pinealon (EDR Tripeptide)Pineal tissueReduces nighttime awakenings over timePinealon increases cell viability by suppression of free radical levels and activating proliferative processes21978084
3Selank (Tuftsin-Derived Heptapeptide)GABA / Serotonin receptorsCalms the nervous system before sleepPeptide selank enhances the effect of diazepam in reducing anxiety in unpredictably chronic mild stress conditions in rats28280289
4PE-22-28 (Spadin-Derived Heptapeptide)Serotonin & Dopamine pathwaysPrevents anxiety-induced sleep disruptionShortened Spadin Analogs Display Better TREK-1 Inhibition, In Vivo Stability and Antidepressant Activity28955242
 
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100% this. Glycine cured my Reta insomnia and helped my wife finally get some sleep with perimenopause.
Thanks. I take magnesium for seizures but it's not glycine. I'll get some.
 
Thanks everyone. I don't make decisions hastily because of my many health issues. I actually talk to my Dr at my appointment yesterday. She said there are many peptides you can try (she knows what I take) but she doesn't know much about them. I'm very sensitive to a lot of prescription meds.
 

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