Nothing wrong with non-lethal options either.
Of course they make a Law Enforcement Only option and that's the one I want.
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Nothing wrong with non-lethal options either.
Of course they make a Law Enforcement Only option and that's the one I want.
moonpies4misfits
Research Enthusiast
Oh, I've got multiples lol. I also carry a knife but that's more for utilitarian purposes and isn't the best option for self defense in general. Distance is key.
ImSW1
New_Member
Yeah, because there's no lack of men standing up and putting themselves in danger for women. What would you precisely like us to do for you?
The statement I'm responding to is "Do you, as a man, require more clarification about how dangerous your gender is to women?"
Yes, there's evil PEOPLE out there but when we're you guaranteed safety at all times? How many is "enough" men? There's 170ish million men in America. How many of us do you think are in this group?
I wish you were safe everywhere you went, but that's a pipe dream for both genders.
moonpies4misfits
Research Enthusiast
I didn't say anyone had to put themselves in danger. It can be as simple as calling out a friend for acting inappropriately. Yes, there are monsters everywhere, but when the statistics show that 91% of sexual assault victims are women, we have good reason to fear for our safety.
delululemonade
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In my experience, a lot of the men that other men think are good men, are not good men. You’d be really surprised. Or maybe you wouldn’t, if you take an honest look around. The Brock Turners of the world don’t walk around with a sign on their foreheads.
ImSW1
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We're not in any disagreement here on sexual assault statistics, but what's the overall number of sexual assaults vs. men in the US? I think you'll find that the vast majority of men are busy being decent members of society. The thing I disagree with is the over generalizations in this thread.
And here we go again "In my experience, a lot of the men that other men think are good men, are not good men." I agree, we're all evil!
delululemonade
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I didn’t say all, I said, “a lot.” Interesting that you put yourself in that category. I didn’t.
ImSW1
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But my experiences are irrelevant. OK!
ImSW1
New_Member
Again, what is a lot, exactly? There's that, you don't agree with me, so you must be projecting.
moonpies4misfits
Research Enthusiast
I never made a generalization. That was your interpretation. I never said all men. I only spoke of men who exhibit this type of behavior. If someone was complaining about people exhibiting "Karen" like behavior, I wouldn't jump in the conversation and say "Not everyone named Karen!"
ImSW1
New_Member
No, you and others definitely generalized numerous times, but whatever. I've had a good and open conversation with you.
I seriously wish that you don't have to deal with these evil people anymore. I really mean this sincerely!
noteablequotable
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@exploitedworkerbee can you step in here?
moonpies4misfits
Research Enthusiast
Can you point out exactly where I said it was all men?
delululemonade
New Member
Less than all, more than “a very few.” If you really can’t see that, I don’t really see the point in engaging further. Good luck on your journey.
ImSW1
New_Member
You as well
. I'll thank you for the engaging conversation. It's a change from the usual... How much BAC water should I use.ImSW1
New_Member
I've pointed out what brought me into the conversation. You didn't bother to defend men when we were being disparaged. Why didn't you step in?
All this is really tongue in cheek. Like I said, I've enjoyed the conversation. I hope you have a great evening.
moonpies4misfits
Research Enthusiast
I'm stepping out of this conversation. I've said all I needed to say. Calling out bad behavior is apparently seen as man-hating. Being told that you missed the entire point of a comment is not an attack. Turning someones statements about being harassed around as a way to feel victimized simply because you share the same anatomy as the perpetrators is weird, but ok. Saying "not all, but enough to be a problem" is not disparaging to an entire gender.
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ImSW1
New_Member
I'm out as well. I don't think anyone here hates men. My issue is the over generalizations, perhaps not from you, but it's there. I can also understand your perspective and points at the same time as disagreeing with some of them.
Be safe and have a great night
.FWIW, I think it was illuminating and vulnerable for that women to share her feeling and experiences.
But it was wrong for her to attack the man who joked it might make it easier for him to get laid.
You both have different experiences and different traumas you are dealing with and (hopefully) recovering from.
Stop with the judgement and the bickering.
As for the few men that got triggered and tried to minimize the whole situation and make it somehow about them? Get help.
But it was wrong for her to attack the man who joked it might make it easier for him to get laid.
You both have different experiences and different traumas you are dealing with and (hopefully) recovering from.
Stop with the judgement and the bickering.
As for the few men that got triggered and tried to minimize the whole situation and make it somehow about them? Get help.
moonpies4misfits
Research Enthusiast
I did not attack him for the joke. I pointed out how he missed the point. My attacks did not start until after THIS snarky comment :
"Sorry, you are basically saying the downside of losing weight is becoming more attractive to the opposite sex, and thus your life becomes more dangerous because you are now considered attractive to the opposite sex and all the creeps and rapists are now out to get you?"
Could I have handled it with more grace? Sure. I'll admit that. But my ire didn't start until after the joke became about being scared of creeps and rapists. Now I'm actually laying it to rest.and I'll be ignoring him so I will no longer see his comments.
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