Dionysos spreadsheet

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I found the spreadsheet within the first day I joined (I was reading a lot of back threads) and REALLY appreciated someone creating such a resource. I too didn't think it was the Grey Market Bible. I am sorry for Dionysus that he was attacked for trying to be helpful. As I always say at work -- no good deed goes unpunished.

Thank you Dionysus! I really do appreciate all of your posts.
 
Snap! Did I miss the “Dionysos” 20% OFF promo code for Limitless or PeptideSciences on the PDF, or whatever brands those YouTubers are affiliated with? (That’s sarcasm.) A simple Google Image search for “Tesamorelin” could have given me 100+ sources.

Dionysos' guide is a great additional resource in the sea of information, helping you get an idea about prices, products, and more (DYOR).
At the top of the page, it clearly states, "THIS GUIDE DOES NOT REPLACE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING YOUR OWN RESEARCH, RELYING ON YOUR OWN JUDGMENT, OR MAKING YOUR OWN CHOICE." If someone can’t read that, they probably shouldn’t be handling syringes.

Ultimately, when you go down the peptide rabbit hole, you'll likely end up buying kits from China, with vendors using Janoshik's tests and bypassing the 500-1200% markups from research websites for the same product.. But nobody if forcing you to do so.
 
Tinygrashopa said:
I was lucky enough to stumble across this forum in the beginning of my research. I have tried to understand discord, peppy’s and telegraph but honestly find this forum much easier to navigate and understand. I don’t have the time to dig and read every discussion on every platform. I personally appreciated all that Dionysus added to the community. His spreadsheets were just another part of the research and his opinion of each vendor. I’m very sad at the negative vibe this forum has taken lately. Though I haven’t been part of it for that long I’d say a definite turn in discussion has happened. I was reading a multipage rant just yesterday. We are all here to learn and make our own educated decisions. Dionysus was a valued member with positive and constructive posts. I’m sad to see him not being part of it as much and If he is reading I would love a link to his spreadsheet again. Here is to hoping we can all play nice in the sandbox.
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I'm a new member too and I whole heartedly agree with this. I also read the spreadsheet and understood it was just a suggestion based off of an opinion and past results. Because of it I have been eyeing several vendors, but am hesitant mainly because of the spreadsheet and I don't want to lose several hundred bucks to a scam or get overfilled/contaminated product.
 
jwillhite6 said:
I'm a new member too and I whole heartedly agree with this. I also read the spreadsheet and understood it was just a suggestion based off of an opinion and past results. Because of it I have been eyeing several vendors, but am hesitant mainly because of the spreadsheet and I don't want to lose several hundred bucks to a scam or get overfilled/contaminated product.
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You’re so lucky to have it!…I’m really hoping things will begin to shift and resources are shared again. I still have a couple of months of compound and will use that time to educate myself as much as possible before making a purchase. I’ve already spent hours looking back at older posts trying to piece it together, but the information is pretty scattered.
 
Parcero said:
Snap! Did I miss the “Dionysos” 20% OFF promo code for Limitless or PeptideSciences on the PDF, or whatever brands those YouTubers are affiliated with? (That’s sarcasm.) A simple Google Image search for “Tesamorelin” could have given me 100+ sources.

Dionysos' guide is a great additional resource in the sea of information, helping you get an idea about prices, products, and more (DYOR).
At the top of the page, it clearly states, "THIS GUIDE DOES NOT REPLACE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING YOUR OWN RESEARCH, RELYING ON YOUR OWN JUDGMENT, OR MAKING YOUR OWN CHOICE." If someone can’t read that, they probably shouldn’t be handling syringes.

Ultimately, when you go down the peptide rabbit hole, you'll likely end up buying kits from China, with vendors using Janoshik's tests and bypassing the 500-1200% markups from research websites for the same product.. But nobody if forcing you to do so.
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I know I'm still in the rabbit hole trying decide on a vendor. His she
Dallas_vibes said:
You’re so lucky to have it!…I’m really hoping things will begin to shift and resources are shared again. I still have a couple of months of compound and will use that time to educate myself as much as possible before making a purchase. I’ve already spent hours looking back at older posts trying to piece it together, but the information is pretty scattered.
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I got it about 36 hours before it got taken down. All the new redditors don't know how to stay discrete. I have only been researching peptides for about 6 weeks and between this site and seeing all the gooberment crack downs on reddit in the last eight months it's pretty clear to stay quiet and not dox people. Wish I would have started my journey a year a go so I could reminisce in the good old days. That and feel 20 years younger because of peptides!!
 
noteablequotable said:
I think that's a great idea and would love for you to eventually share your methodology. I think there are other valuable insights to be gained from analyzing forum posts, and it's one of the things on my to-do list.
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Dude, if you share your methodology publicly you can count on getting pilloried like Dio. I agree it’s a great idea and will defend you but…
 
I'm new here; literally joined today. It seems most people here have good intentions, but some just want to criticize everything others do. And those are the ones that ruin it for the rest of us. I think you should show gratitude to the man who made the dang spreadsheet to begin with. He took LOTS of time to research and create that, and provide everyone a valuable resource when he didn't HAVE to. Thank you, man. I'll never get to see it, but I appreciate you.
 
msorganized01 said:
I'm new here; literally joined today. It seems most people here have good intentions, but some just want to criticize everything others do. And those are the ones that ruin it for the rest of us. I think you should show gratitude to the man who made the dang spreadsheet to begin with. He took LOTS of time to research and create that, and provide everyone a valuable resource when he didn't HAVE to. Thank you, man. I'll never get to see it, but I appreciate you.
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@dionysos is pretty legendary. He made me fall in love with this community.
 
Watching all this back and forth knowing I saw the Oct 15 update well after it was removed, haha.
 
The PDFs still show up on his google drive.

Search your browser history, or just ask him for a link via DM. I think if he really wanted it gone, he'd take it down from his google drive.... but as of about 30 seconds ago I see a copy of it updated on the 20th.
 
nccane said:
He's really digging snp. Is on both the US and CN list. One at the top (recent update, the other highlighted green).
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Uh... without getting too deep into the weeds he was being intentionally saucy when he did that. You can find the exchange that prompted it in the other thread. That's also when things stopped being in alphabetical order.
 
I think he should just unapologetically put the links back in his profile.

Let people quack. Who gives a flying fuck?

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noteablequotable said:
Uh... without getting too deep into the weeds he was being intentionally saucy when he did that. You can find the exchange that prompted it in the other thread. That's also when things stopped being in alphabetical order.
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Driving people to a vendor without an established track record over a personal grievance... very cool. great example of why these types of 'guides' are deeply problematic.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
Driving people to a vendor without an established track record over a personal grievance... very cool. great example of why these types of 'guides' are deeply problematic.
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To be fair he had removed the sheet from the forum at this point. The only people who saw it were the people most likely to know exactly what it meant.
 
brentm said:
The PDFs still show up on his google drive.

Search your browser history, or just ask him for a link via DM. I think if he really wanted it gone, he'd take it down from his google drive.... but as of about 30 seconds ago I see a copy of it updated on the 20th.
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Found my link to the US vendor list, but not the Chinese one. 🙁 I hate to bother him with a request for a link but damn, I'm too old to be fat as well, and too cheap to pay US prices.
 
so who are we gonna buy from? 😕

the peptide nazi typed out a whole page of stuff explaining how "the Man" was not going to censor the sheet in response to my post, then went ahead and did it anyway??? am i wrong?
 
jimothy said:
The spreadsheet was and is a pretty bad source of information. I don't see how anyone could research all the options out there and come to the conclusion that amo and nexa are the safest and best choices, lol.
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Who do you think is better among SRY, QSC, Nexaph, and ASC, and why? In a few weeks I will probably order from one of those 4 and then pay for testing.

I plan to test at either Janoshik or Peptidetest.com, although maybe a different place if I learn of one.

Side note: the site should probably have a section on Testing with a list of vendors. I don't see any trouble sharing an "official" recommendation for testing agencies. Unless I am missing something, they are not at a risk of getting shut down if they become widely known. Testing is helpful for everyone and perfectly legal to the best of my (limited) knowledge.
 
brentm said:
Was going to recommend my strategy for buying alts. Dartboard.
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I got overly ambitious before realizing how much time I'm wasting on nothing - So this is what you get 🤣

Better than nothing, but completely useless (it's just a pasted html/javascript, so browser extensions and incognito will probably break it xD


Oh, and I used the GPT scanning the board to make the quotes, I take zero responsibility for accuracy or unintended rudeness - I told it to make it funny 🙂
 
Bacchus said:
I got overly ambitious before realizing how much time I'm wasting on nothing - So this is what you get 🤣

Better than nothing, but completely useless (it's just a pasted html/javascript, so browser extensions and incognito will probably break it xD


Oh, and I used the GPT scanning the board to make the quotes, I take zero responsibility for accuracy or unintended rudeness - I told it to make it funny 🙂
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AmoPure's subtext is "No pain, no gain" 😂😂😂
 
GimmeABreak said:
I just started Tirz on 7/29 with brand name but insurance continued to throw hoops to jump through and I think they have cut me off for good. I then switched to compound and knew the FDA was going to take it off the shortage list. So I started researching the gray market and found this forum and other sources of information with a plan to stock up while its available.

I found Dionysus' US/INTL lists days before he took them down. I read through many of the posts he used to create it and update it and thought, what a massive amount of work and great contribution to the community.

Then I saw researchers giving him negative feedback on accuracy and other information, basically ungrateful idiots bitching about the list and I thought WTF? He is giving us a gift, how can these morons not realize that. I never thought it was the gray market bible and headed the disclaimers he included on the lists.

After 100 or more hours of research I ultimately chose to spread my orders over multiple vendors both in the US and China to hedge my bets. This is driving up my testing costs as I can't just test one vial from a big order that would most likely be from the same batch, but its what i felt was the most conservative route to take.

Thanks for all of your help Dionysus,, from a fellow DFW researcher, and also thanks to everyone else in this community that continue to provide meaningful contributions.
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Eloquently put... and I couldn't agree more. I am getting tired of watching the shit talk. If you don't agree or don't find his info valuable stop trolling. You said your piece and move on. Some of us appreciate the work that went into it.
 
Bacchus said:
I got overly ambitious before realizing how much time I'm wasting on nothing - So this is what you get 🤣

Better than nothing, but completely useless (it's just a pasted html/javascript, so browser extensions and incognito will probably break it xD


Oh, and I used the GPT scanning the board to make the quotes, I take zero responsibility for accuracy or unintended rudeness - I told it to make it funny 🙂
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yelloeyes said:
Eloquently put... and I couldn't agree more. I am getting tired of watching the shit talk. If you don't agree or don't find his info valuable stop trolling. You said your piece and move on. Some of us appreciate the work that went into it.
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I have a solution for anyone who doesn't like Dionysos's list: Prepare a better list.
 
nccane said:
He's really digging snp. Is on both the US and CN list. One at the top (most recent update, the other highlighted green).
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Can see why, I finally caved in and ordered. Cain is quick, easy and got an upgrade due to an issue with the Crypto payment and the MG I ordered sold out. Biggest issue is they sell out quickly

I won't get my package until the 28th, so this is just an ordering experience
 
Thorin said:
Who do you think is better among SRY, QSC, Nexaph, and ASC, and why? In a few weeks I will probably order from one of those 4 and then pay for testing.
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Just depends what your objective is.
Save money from compounding, pay more, use a credit card, fast shipping - Nexaph
Largest inventory possible. Fine with Crypto, want to make a post on here and brag that you saved $30 by waiting 6 weeks for your shit - SRY and QSC
Like dealing with decent human beings, will pay an extra $30 to deal with a decent human being that takes paypal - ASC
Like to Cntrl+F the forum and order the first thing that pops up - Amo
 
Bacchus said:
I got overly ambitious before realizing how much time I'm wasting on nothing - So this is what you get 🤣

Better than nothing, but completely useless (it's just a pasted html/javascript, so browser extensions and incognito will probably break it xD


Oh, and I used the GPT scanning the board to make the quotes, I take zero responsibility for accuracy or unintended rudeness - I told it to make it funny 🙂
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Wow, am I SOL

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Bacchus said:
I got overly ambitious before realizing how much time I'm wasting on nothing - So this is what you get 🤣

Better than nothing, but completely useless (it's just a pasted html/javascript, so browser extensions and incognito will probably break it xD


Oh, and I used the GPT scanning the board to make the quotes, I take zero responsibility for accuracy or unintended rudeness - I told it to make it funny 🙂
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I chuckled at a few of these. Love it, thanks for the laugh 😀
 
Doxyisfoxy said:
This is me! I am that person! I am immensely grateful for the research that has been done before I came along. I don’t want anyone to have to find out “the hard way” about any vendors but if people have experiences to share (particularly bad ones) I want to hear about them. Unfortunately, I have a job and a family so scrolling back through this forum to its inception for every anecdote is just not feasible. My research is ongoing but like, it was nice to have a jumping off point.
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This. Exactly. I'm not opposed to doing my own research, and believe me, I've done A LOT. But I cannot justify hundreds and hundreds of hours reading every post in every section of this forum going back to the summer of last year.
 
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