Endotoxin Warning

Grogu said:
Are you able to scrub endotoxin results from the website? I think that endotoxin testing is an add-on service (for a fee) that people can do and I've started to see some COAs with endotoxin data on their website.
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There are very few results and no failures.

What it does do is, when a problem is found, give an indication of who else may have the same issue.
 
Airborne Daddy said:
They have a good honest crew. Threw in for a test last year but the discord is gone now. I dont think the boss wants them recruting here. If every member paid 5 bucks a month we could randomly spot check every vendor.
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We got nuked 24 hours after posting these Jeep results.... Call me a cynic but it's a bit suss!

Anyway the backup is running. We just can't invite anyone in for 3 days and won't be for a little while so we can sort out all our current members in one of the like 40 tests we have running.


As for the black cap t30 everyone now seems to have replaced orange cap with... Well, we are about to test Aurora t30 black top. Jeep too. So we will see!

And no, not all endotoxin reports are released. They belong to the test group who paid for them. We only release what's in the public interest from Sterility, endotoxin, dangerous overfills etc. plus any mass/purity results that the testers vote to release.

I also hold my hands up as being someone who though endotoxin analysis was a waste of money - they never fail! And here we are... Biggest fail ever seen. So it goes to show. For what it's worth, this batch with the worst endotoxin ever had a cracking mass/purity result anyone would have been thrilled with. So I think we will be prioritising more endotoxin and TAMC/TYMC testing.
 
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I certainly agree with you on endotoxin given this result but out of interest why do TAMC/TYMC? It fails often enough that always filtering seems like the best idea.
 
Phatmax said:
are they coming?
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No. Results are for paying members only.

Only mass gets shared with the vendor so the members can get their discount on their next order ( up to 30$ ).

The T30 endotoxin was posted because its dangerous.

I am retesting 2 vials of the JEEP T60 January batch next week if you want to join and pay.
 
Chili777 said:
The vast majority of vendors don't respond to excessive Endo analysis reports. That may be about to change as their customers demand it after this.
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Oh I get that. Just would have been nice for them to say something like "Shit, that's horrible, let's do something about it. I can offer you a 40% (or whatever) refund, or we can send you some new batches." That would have been nice, not just "well throw all the kits you bought from us, but we'll still sell it".
 
Romulusguy said:
I just checked my stock and....I have some JEEP TIRZ60. I'm colorblind, so I can't tell the differences between shades of colors. Does this look like the toxic batch
Romulusguy said:
I just checked my stock and....I have some JEEP TIRZ60. I'm colorblind, so I can't tell the differences between shades of colors. Does this look like the toxic b
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littledragon25 said:
We got nuked 24 hours after posting these Jeep results.... Call me a cynic but it's a bit suss!

Anyway the backup is running. We just can't invite anyone in for 3 days and won't be for a little while so we can sort out all our current members in one of the like 40 tests we have running.


As for the black cap t30 everyone now seems to have replaced orange cap with... Well, we are about to test Aurora t30 black top. Jeep too. So we will see!

And no, not all endotoxin reports are released. They belong to the test group who paid for them. We only release what's in the public interest from Sterility, endotoxin, dangerous overfills etc. plus any mass/purity results that the testers vote to release.

I also hold my hands up as being someone who though endotoxin analysis was a waste of money - they never fail! And here we are... Biggest fail ever seen. So it goes to show. For what it's worth, this batch with the worst endotoxin ever had a cracking mass/purity result anyone would have been thrilled with. So I think we will be prioritising more endotoxin and TAMC/TYMC testing.
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I have a black cap T30 from APS that I would love to donate to that cause! Please feel free to reach out to me if you want. I'm not in the testing server but I think you sent me a DM about it, I have just been busy with work and hadn't responded. I had already sent out a vial for m/p and was thinking of sending another out for endo testing. I have two kits that look like this, none are endo tested now but they damn well will be before I use them! I'm not going to risk a serious reaction over a couple hundred bucks. Still cheaper than Lily.
 
RetCurious said:
Interesting how little endo testing was done in STG's 3p test results.
Doesn't look like the latest from @littledragon25 were uploaded.
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stg-3p-test-results

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This is a list of all endotoxin tests published so far, used to do analysis of endotoxin trends. It has data from STG, FPPG, and a few other sources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...0hSGJquXwuJk-yrLNo33h6ND3-wKNVCxdyQI2/pubhtml

Based on this you can see for example, endotoxin levels by vendors, broken down by quartiles (to get a sense of the spread between lowest and highest amount of endotoxin levels)

All of this is from Peppys, which I highly encourage people to join.
 

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peppystrings80 said:
I have a black cap T30 from APS that I would love to donate to that cause! Please feel free to reach out to me if you want. I'm not in the testing server but I think you sent me a DM about it, I have just been busy with work and hadn't responded. I had already sent out a vial for m/p and was thinking of sending another out for endo testing. I have two kits that look like this, none are endo tested now but they damn well will be before I use them! I'm not going to risk a serious reaction over a couple hundred bucks. Still cheaper than Lily.
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Very cool of you to offer. I'm going to cover this one solo and I will donate/post the results to this community as a token of my appreciation for all of the information I have learned from these forums. Stay tuned: as soon as they arrive (my experience has been about 2.5 weeks from China), I'll send them off to Janoshik for testing.
 
Romulusguy said:
Very cool of you to offer. I'm going to cover this one solo and I will donate/post the results to this community as a token of my appreciation for all of the information I have learned from these forums. Stay tuned: as soon as they arrive (my experience has been about 2.5 weeks from China), I'll send them off to Janoshik for testing.
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That's so great that you plan to post results, I have been planning to do the same when they come in. Right now I have Uther T60 and LN Peptides T60 out for m/p/endo testing, I'm sure lots of folks have those batches and would like to know the results. I don't really care if I paid for it myself, I did it for my own peace of mind. I think the more information this community has, the better.
 
By the way, this was just posted by JEEP, which should give you an idea of what to expect when dealing with grey vendors:

Regarding the issue of excessive endotoxin in TR30
Hello everyone！🥰First of all, we sincerely apologize for the excessive endotoxin detected in TR30. Meanwhile, we have consulted many industry peers. Due to raw material limitations, the endotoxin indicators of domestic generic products in China cannot meet the standards or be comparable to those of Lilly products.
In addition, as stated in our official announcements and promotions sales etc, we only guarantee the purity and filling content of our products. For other trace indicators such as sterility and endotoxin, we cannot achieve the same quality standards as Lilly. We sincerely hope for your understanding. If you have strict requirements for these trace indicators, we recommend purchasing genuine brand products.
For future products, we will strengthen strictly control raw material standards, strive to narrow the gap with genuine products, and steadily improve key indicators such as sterility and endotoxin.
We appreciate your understanding and trust. We will repay you with stable and qualified products in every future batch and live up to your long-term support.💕
———JEEP team


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CandyCap said:
There are very few that actually do sterility testing. The standard is testing for mass/purity. Some will test for endo/sterility, but generally only if it meets a certain sales goal in group buys. Even fewer "US peptide companies" (this term is kind of a misnomer as it implies they are made in the US, and they are not) test for endo and sterility. Yes, there are a handful, but they are hard to come by.
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I'm aware it's coming from China. There's actually quite a few US peptide companies that are testing for purity, sterility, endotoxins and metals, more than when I first switched from Telehealth
 
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