Go to Vendor?

[Lowkey]

Yes, but oversight/scrutiny on local compound makes it a safer bet than shooting blindly and ordering from a random vendor in China that you found on Facebook or a new board (though I'm sure there is a lot of funny business going on with the compounders too).

I'm not bashing CN manufacturers at all, they are probably better - We get our products from a manufacturer in China too, I have no reason to say the product from China is bad.

My issue is with how your initial message was phrased in a way that makes it seem like any vendor you find online has the same product you get from local compounding pharmacies. Which largely is true, but you run a higher risk of getting a bad product if you order online without knowing what you're doing.

And while the raw source is one thing, it also matters how the raws are processed. If you're trying to say the lyophilized products all come from the same place, I will have to disagree - But we can agree that there are only a few good sources for raws.

Most of what I've come across before coming to these GLP-1 forums were all from the same place. Not all of them. And a lot of the stuff I'm seeing here aren't, few are. My point wasn't for people to just choose any random vendor they find. Just that 1 manufacturer holds most of the real estate and they happen to have the best quality out there. Chase the quality. They're always within FDA specs(clean, 10% to 25% overfill, and above 98.5% purity (typically 99.5+%) consistently. Yes, overfill is a pharmaceutical requirement unbeknownst to the public. Which is why we are seeing it in our test. But 10-25% is the required range. My best guess is for degradation purposes. I do know the EXP date correlates with the medication being at the labeled dosage or below.

Yeah you're right. There are only a few good sources for raw mats. Not everything out of china is bad. Like everything, you still need to do your research. Just because everyone in a particular group is getting all their products from a particular place, doesn't mean it's good. You should always be looking for the better product who is consistent with my statement above. A specific overfill is good, not because it's more, but because it's within regulations. 98.5% is still high purity according to the FDA. There are good products out there and bad. I've mostly seen good overall. More expensive doesn't = good. And cheap doesn't always = bad. Stick to sources with a good history. Don't trust blindly. Fortunately we don't see too many legitimate scammers anymore. Or products that are giving people infections. Mostly just low quality, insane overfill or underfill issues. The amount of infections in the past were horrendous. That and people selling fakes. You don't really see that anymore as raw materials are cheap and easy to obtain, and manufacturers are easier to find (or their resellers at the very least). The dinosaurs of this industry are still around. Most people are just finding the new commers. That's where all the risk is.