Go to Vendor?

So you’re saying basically every product is the same? - wrong.

And 200-400$ in tests only tells you the purity of the product, not if it is as it’s aupposed to be. You need a battery of tests costing in the range 2000-5000$ to truly know what you actually have in your hands (not that you need to do all those tests).

But to hint towards grey/black market being the same as compound, is at best a lack of knowledge.

Missleading people i to believing they are as safe with CN vendors as they are with compound, is simply not cool. I’m not saying there is a huge risk with CN vendors - but it is not equal to compound 🤷‍♂️
You twisted my words into your own opinion.

I wouldn't say EVERYTHING out there is the same or from the same place. I just know where most vendors are getting their supply from. And know at the end of that road is a company in China many pharma companies use. I also get medications from a company in India who is also a manufacturer for pharma companies. Legitimate brand name medications you can verify. When I say pharma companies, I'm talking about name brand pharma companies. Though compounding pharma's also use them. I've been around this stuff for nearly 2 decades and eventually you learn where things are coming from, learn who is carrying the quality products, see how the industry changes. All these GLP-1 peptide vendors people are finding are all fairly new. Vendors that popped up in the last year or so. My list of vendors have been around for over a decade and are properly vetted. Some have better prices than these new vendors, some don't. I've looked into many of the new vendors and found that many get their products from a reputable pharma company without knowing it. If the quality and weight % are there and consistent, there is a good chance it's coming from the manufacturer I'm talking about.

I haven't seen so many poor vendors until coming to these GLP-1 forums. Of course they will show up in these new focused forums. At the same time, I've seen a couple good vendors here. There aren't many manufacturers creating high quality products. But many who are reselling their products. Peptides have been around for decades in this industry. The risk is in these vendors who have popped up in the past couple years. Some lucked out and found the quality products, some haven't. These GLP-1 forums have potential. But need to weed out poor vendors. I also have a feeling some vendors here are purposely bashing quality vendors in one way or another. Right now, these forums are similar to how other health and fitness forums were 15+ years ago when it comes to vendors. The forums are still small and is hard to moderate the manipulators. Especially when most of the members are also new to this world. Eventually things will work out and there will finally be a good list of properly vetted vendors. A consistent 99.7+% and weight +10%-20%, I have a pretty good idea where it came from. And purity tests are sufficient in most cases, gives you a good idea how much of the active ingredient is present. You get the values of everything that isn't the amino acid sequence of the active ingredient and subtract by 100 to get the purity of the active ingredient (if it's present). The only unknown are the impurities. Which doesn't matter much under 1%.

"Missleading people i to believing they are as safe with CN vendors as they are with compound, is simply not cool. I’m not saying there is a huge risk with CN vendors - but it is not equal to compound"

A compound is a compound no matter where it was compounded. To say a compound from china can't be equal or better than a compound from a compounding pharmacy in another country is ignorant and they are out there. Only a few compounding pharmacies in the US are licensed to operate under Section 503A. Which will give you the best quality. The rest aren't, can only produce in times of shortage, and still carry risks.
 
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This might be a weird question, since everyone here is chasing quality and quantity for the best price.

But anyone have a good vendor for smaller orders of a vial or two? I want to try some peptides but want to make sure they react well with me. Why have 10 vials of stuff I might not like?
You should just order from domestic vendors in this case. They sell individual vials.
 
This might be a weird question, since everyone here is chasing quality and quantity for the best price.

But anyone have a good vendor for smaller orders of a vial or two? I want to try some peptides but want to make sure they react well with me. Why have 10 vials of stuff I might not like?
Dspeptides is decent for this. Skye, Pacific Wave. U.S.-based folks. Amino’s Research is having great sales rn
 
You twisted my words into your own opinion.

I wouldn't say EVERYTHING out there is the same or from the same place. I just know where most vendors are getting their supply from. And know at the end of that road is a company in China many pharma companies use. I also get medications from a company in India who is also a manufacturer for pharma companies. Legitimate brand name medications you can verify. When I say pharma companies, I'm talking about name brand pharma companies. Though compounding pharma's also use them. I've been around this stuff for nearly 2 decades and eventually you learn where things are coming from, learn who is carrying the quality products, see how the industry changes. All these GLP-1 peptide vendors people are finding are all fairly new. Vendors that popped up in the last year or so. My list of vendors have been around for over a decade and are properly vetted. Some have better prices than these new vendors, some don't. I've looked into many of the new vendors and found that many get their products from a reputable pharma company without knowing it. If the quality and weight % are there and consistent, there is a good chance it's coming from the manufacturer I'm talking about.

I haven't seen so many poor vendors until coming to these GLP-1 forums. Of course they will show up in these new focused forums. At the same time, I've seen a couple good vendors here. There aren't many manufacturers creating high quality products. But many who are reselling their products. Peptides have been around for decades in this industry. The risk is in these vendors who have popped up in the past couple years. Some lucked out and found the quality products, some haven't. These GLP-1 forums have potential. But need to weed out poor vendors. I also have a feeling some vendors here are purposely bashing quality vendors in one way or another. Right now, these forums are similar to how other health and fitness forums were 15+ years ago when it comes to vendors. The forums are still small and is hard to moderate the manipulators. Especially when most of the members are also new to this world. Eventually things will work out and there will finally be a good list of properly vetted vendors. A consistent 99.7+% and weight +10%-20%, I have a pretty good idea where it came from. And purity tests are sufficient in most cases, gives you a good idea how much of the active ingredient is present. You get the values of everything that isn't the amino acid sequence of the active ingredient and subtract by 100 to get the purity of the active ingredient (if it's present). The only unknown are the impurities. Which doesn't matter much under 1%.

"Missleading people i to believing they are as safe with CN vendors as they are with compound, is simply not cool. I’m not saying there is a huge risk with CN vendors - but it is not equal to compound"

A compound is a compound no matter where it was compounded. To say a compound from china can't be equal or better than a compound from a compounding pharmacy in another country is ignorant and they are out there. Only a few compounding pharmacies in the US are licensed to operate under Section 503A. Which will give you the best quality. The rest aren't, can only produce in times of shortage, and still carry risks.
What is your India source? I buy from ADC, but am always looking for a better deal and more variety.
 
You twisted my words into your own opinion.

I wouldn't say EVERYTHING out there is the same or from the same place. I just know where most vendors are getting their supply from. And know at the end of that road is a company in China many pharma companies use. I also get medications from a company in India who is also a manufacturer for pharma companies. Legitimate brand name medications you can verify. When I say pharma companies, I'm talking about name brand pharma companies. Though compounding pharma's also use them. I've been around this stuff for nearly 2 decades and eventually you learn where things are coming from, learn who is carrying the quality products, see how the industry changes. All these GLP-1 peptide vendors people are finding are all fairly new. Vendors that popped up in the last year or so. My list of vendors have been around for over a decade and are properly vetted. Some have better prices than these new vendors, some don't. I've looked into many of the new vendors and found that many get their products from a reputable pharma company without knowing it. If the quality and weight % are there and consistent, there is a good chance it's coming from the manufacturer I'm talking about.

I haven't seen so many poor vendors until coming to these GLP-1 forums. Of course they will show up in these new focused forums. At the same time, I've seen a couple good vendors here. There aren't many manufacturers creating high quality products. But many who are reselling their products. Peptides have been around for decades in this industry. The risk is in these vendors who have popped up in the past couple years. Some lucked out and found the quality products, some haven't. These GLP-1 forums have potential. But need to weed out poor vendors. I also have a feeling some vendors here are purposely bashing quality vendors in one way or another. Right now, these forums are similar to how other health and fitness forums were 15+ years ago when it comes to vendors. The forums are still small and is hard to moderate the manipulators. Especially when most of the members are also new to this world. Eventually things will work out and there will finally be a good list of properly vetted vendors. A consistent 99.7+% and weight +10%-20%, I have a pretty good idea where it came from. And purity tests are sufficient in most cases, gives you a good idea how much of the active ingredient is present. You get the values of everything that isn't the amino acid sequence of the active ingredient and subtract by 100 to get the purity of the active ingredient (if it's present). The only unknown are the impurities. Which doesn't matter much under 1%.

"Missleading people i to believing they are as safe with CN vendors as they are with compound, is simply not cool. I’m not saying there is a huge risk with CN vendors - but it is not equal to compound"

A compound is a compound no matter where it was compounded. To say a compound from china can't be equal or better than a compound from a compounding pharmacy in another country is ignorant and they are out there. Only a few compounding pharmacies in the US are licensed to operate under Section 503A. Which will give you the best quality. The rest aren't, can only produce in times of shortage, and still carry risks.
Can you please private message me some of the vendors you can recommend for tirzepatide?
 
What is your India source? I buy from ADC, but am always looking for a better deal and more variety.

There's Dr.Reddy's, Sun Pharma, Abbott Healthcare, J Altius Healthcare, Zydus Cadila, INTAS, Oaknet Healthcare, Leeford, and MSD from india. I'm not sure if any of them provide peptides though. India is a good place for pills and ointments. Some US pharma companies use them for production. What's even more funny, other big pharma companies like Pfizer also double dip into the underground market. I can go buy a box of viagra from pfizer for $12 (4 tablets) without a prescription or license right now if I wanted to. Or a box of aromasin for $100 (30 tablets). Get it shipped to my door within 24 hours.

Go through health and fitness forums, particularly the ones big on steroids. It's a great place to get information, find vetted vendors, a long history on vendors, and some best kept secrets here and there. This market is nothing new. These GLP-1 vendors on these GLP-1 forums and reddit are part of a small puddle. There's an entire ocean out there. GLP-1's have been used and talked about for over a decade. Most people have only heard about it in the past couple years.
 
Here is some advice on using this forum: Don't come here if you wish for direct answers to your questions. I would not come to this site myself if not the fact that it has so many knowledgeable members. As to your question, my recommendations would be QSC and Amopure (amolist.com). On the Amopure site, if you see an L followed by a number (e.g., L30), that means a kit (10 bottles) of the specified milligrams of tirzepatide. Another alternative is to go the vendors sections of this site. Wait for QSC for hold a group buy. You'll order through Tracy. Ordering through QSC will require a longer wait and be more difficult than ordering through Amopure. However, QSC has great prices and delivers a good product. If you pay QSC and haven't heard anything for two weeks, that's par for the course. But your order will eventually arrive. In contrast, Amopure is pretty easy to deal with. I did have to set up an Alibaba Pay account to pay for Amopure. If you do decide to buy from QSC, their sales rep is Tracy. Do not buy from Tracy simply because you looked at Tracy's photo in the vendor section and have concluded that Tracy is a beautiful woman. You may find people posting here who disagree with my recommendations. I suggest you follow my recommendations unless someone else actually posts specific recommendations with which you agree. It's easy to bash what others say. It's harder to provide advice that will help someone. Seriously consider sending one vial of whatever you order to a place that conducts peptide testing.
How can I join the group buys of Tracy?
 
There's Dr.Reddy's, Sun Pharma, Abbott Healthcare, J Altius Healthcare, Zydus Cadila, INTAS, Oaknet Healthcare, Leeford, and MSD from india. I'm not sure if any of them provide peptides though. India is a good place for pills and ointments. Some US pharma companies use them for production. What's even more funny, other big pharma companies like Pfizer also double dip into the underground market. I can go buy a box of viagra from pfizer for $12 (4 tablets) without a prescription or license right now if I wanted to. Or a box of aromasin for $100 (30 tablets). Get it shipped to my door within 24 hours.

Go through health and fitness forums, particularly the ones big on steroids. It's a great place to get information, find vetted vendors, a long history on vendors, and some best kept secrets here and there. This market is nothing new. These GLP-1 vendors on these GLP-1 forums and reddit are part of a small puddle. There's an entire ocean out there. GLP-1's have been used and talked about for over a decade. Most people have only heard about it in the past couple years.
I was looking for a source to buy meds from. Can’t buy directly from any of the places you mentioned.
 
This might be a weird question, since everyone here is chasing quality and quantity for the best price.

But anyone have a good vendor for smaller orders of a vial or two? I want to try some peptides but want to make sure they react well with me. Why have 10 vials of stuff I might not like?
I had a great experience with product, shipping speed and cost ordering from Tydes.
 
I was looking for a source to buy meds from. Can’t buy directly from any of the places you mentioned.
They all sell through resellers on these steroid sites/forums. That's how this market has worked for years. No one really sells directly. Instead a reseller site will have multiple vendors and acts similar to drop shipping. You order from the site and the manufacturer ships directly to you. There is a way to go directly to the manufacturer. But not likely for the average consumer. Most of the resellers don't mark up much anyways and offer a lot of loyalty rewards. Pfizer for example, if I wanted name brand Viagra, I can get it for $11-$12. The vendor sites would sell it for $16-$17. Not much of an upcharge at all. Not like these new GLP-1 vendors popping up selling at a 10X+ upcharge. Napsgear.org is a pretty good reseller site. 20% store credit on all orders, up to $15 store credit for leaving a review. Still need to do your research on some of those vendors, but most are old and vetted. There are many other resellers out there with over a decade of recorded history. Not hard to find them. I recommend everyone to go out to these fitness/steroid forums, get information from the people on there with years of experience in all this stuff (peptides and GLP-1's included), and find the "go to" vendors. Plenty of information on scams in the past, things to watch out for, everything. And use this forum and possibly other GLP-1 forums to focus their GLP-1 info on.

I came to these GLP-1 forums and reddit recently out of curiosity. It's like the wild west out here. But these forums are needed. Just needs more veterans in this field with 5+ years of experience who are actively contributing and helping those coming into all this blindly. That is not me. I'll help people here and there but I'm not active on forums at all. I mean, 10 years on reddit and I made my first comment 3 months ago 😂. More of an observer and information/data gatherer. I'm also selective when it comes to some vendor information. I don't want to end up supporting someone who is looking to take advantage of people. A lot of them are popping up as vendors the past few months. If you search you'll find the information eventually and connect dots, somethings I just won't give easily.
 
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You twisted my words into your own opinion.

I wouldn't say EVERYTHING out there is the same or from the same place. I just know where most vendors are getting their supply from. And know at the end of that road is a company in China many pharma companies use. I also get medications from a company in India who is also a manufacturer for pharma companies. Legitimate brand name medications you can verify. When I say pharma companies, I'm talking about name brand pharma companies. Though compounding pharma's also use them. I've been around this stuff for nearly 2 decades and eventually you learn where things are coming from, learn who is carrying the quality products, see how the industry changes. All these GLP-1 peptide vendors people are finding are all fairly new. Vendors that popped up in the last year or so. My list of vendors have been around for over a decade and are properly vetted. Some have better prices than these new vendors, some don't. I've looked into many of the new vendors and found that many get their products from a reputable pharma company without knowing it. If the quality and weight % are there and consistent, there is a good chance it's coming from the manufacturer I'm talking about.

I haven't seen so many poor vendors until coming to these GLP-1 forums. Of course they will show up in these new focused forums. At the same time, I've seen a couple good vendors here. There aren't many manufacturers creating high quality products. But many who are reselling their products. Peptides have been around for decades in this industry. The risk is in these vendors who have popped up in the past couple years. Some lucked out and found the quality products, some haven't. These GLP-1 forums have potential. But need to weed out poor vendors. I also have a feeling some vendors here are purposely bashing quality vendors in one way or another. Right now, these forums are similar to how other health and fitness forums were 15+ years ago when it comes to vendors. The forums are still small and is hard to moderate the manipulators. Especially when most of the members are also new to this world. Eventually things will work out and there will finally be a good list of properly vetted vendors. A consistent 99.7+% and weight +10%-20%, I have a pretty good idea where it came from. And purity tests are sufficient in most cases, gives you a good idea how much of the active ingredient is present. You get the values of everything that isn't the amino acid sequence of the active ingredient and subtract by 100 to get the purity of the active ingredient (if it's present). The only unknown are the impurities. Which doesn't matter much under 1%.

"Missleading people i to believing they are as safe with CN vendors as they are with compound, is simply not cool. I’m not saying there is a huge risk with CN vendors - but it is not equal to compound"

A compound is a compound no matter where it was compounded. To say a compound from china can't be equal or better than a compound from a compounding pharmacy in another country is ignorant and they are out there. Only a few compounding pharmacies in the US are licensed to operate under Section 503A. Which will give you the best quality. The rest aren't, can only produce in times of shortage, and still carry risks.
Hi matey can I dm you?
 
A compound is a compound no matter where it was compounded. To say a compound from china can't be equal or better than a compound from a compounding pharmacy in another country is ignorant and they are out there. Only a few compounding pharmacies in the US are licensed to operate under Section 503A. Which will give you the best quality. The rest aren't, can only produce in times of shortage, and still carry risks.
Yes, but oversight/scrutiny on local compound makes it a safer bet than shooting blindly and ordering from a random vendor in China that you found on Facebook or a new board (though I'm sure there is a lot of funny business going on with the compounders too).

I'm not bashing CN manufacturers at all, they are probably better - We get our products from a manufacturer in China too, I have no reason to say the product from China is bad.

My issue is with how your initial message was phrased in a way that makes it seem like any vendor you find online has the same product you get from local compounding pharmacies. Which largely is true, but you run a higher risk of getting a bad product if you order online without knowing what you're doing.

And while the raw source is one thing, it also matters how the raws are processed. If you're trying to say the lyophilized products all come from the same place, I will have to disagree - But we can agree that there are only a few good sources for raws.
 

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