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What's your go-to vendor that sells some good peptides with 3rd party testing that affordable I like nexaph prices with their deals but always seem to be out of stock and very limited selections I'm looking for some alternatives or manufactures i would be able to make a deal with as I'm just one person starting out and want to build a connection
 
Yes, but oversight/scrutiny on local compound makes it a safer bet than shooting blindly and ordering from a random vendor in China that you found on Facebook or a new board (though I'm sure there is a lot of funny business going on with the compounders too).

I'm not bashing CN manufacturers at all, they are probably better - We get our products from a manufacturer in China too, I have no reason to say the product from China is bad.

My issue is with how your initial message was phrased in a way that makes it seem like any vendor you find online has the same product you get from local compounding pharmacies. Which largely is true, but you run a higher risk of getting a bad product if you order online without knowing what you're doing.

And while the raw source is one thing, it also matters how the raws are processed. If you're trying to say the lyophilized products all come from the same place, I will have to disagree - But we can agree that there are only a few good sources for raws.
Most of what I've come across before coming to these GLP-1 forums were all from the same place. Not all of them. And a lot of the stuff I'm seeing here aren't, few are. My point wasn't for people to just choose any random vendor they find. Just that 1 manufacturer holds most of the real estate and they happen to have the best quality out there. Chase the quality. They're always within FDA specs(clean, 10% to 25% overfill, and above 98.5% purity (typically 99.5+%) consistently. Yes, overfill is a pharmaceutical requirement unbeknownst to the public. Which is why we are seeing it in our test. But 10-25% is the required range. My best guess is for degradation purposes. I do know the EXP date correlates with the medication being at the labeled dosage or below.

Yeah you're right. There are only a few good sources for raw mats. Not everything out of china is bad. Like everything, you still need to do your research. Just because everyone in a particular group is getting all their products from a particular place, doesn't mean it's good. You should always be looking for the better product who is consistent with my statement above. A specific overfill is good, not because it's more, but because it's within regulations. 98.5% is still high purity according to the FDA. There are good products out there and bad. I've mostly seen good overall. More expensive doesn't = good. And cheap doesn't always = bad. Stick to sources with a good history. Don't trust blindly. Fortunately we don't see too many legitimate scammers anymore. Or products that are giving people infections. Mostly just low quality, insane overfill or underfill issues. The amount of infections in the past were horrendous. That and people selling fakes. You don't really see that anymore as raw materials are cheap and easy to obtain, and manufacturers are easier to find (or their resellers at the very least). The dinosaurs of this industry are still around. Most people are just finding the new commers. That's where all the risk is.
 
Guys I wanted to ask: do all these vendors that we currently have include a batch number on the box that they send to you? If yes is it linked to a janoshik report? I will not trust any peptide without a batch number written and an official janoshik report for that specific batch. Trust is not easy to come by these days…
 
Guys I wanted to ask: do all these vendors that we currently have include a batch number on the box that they send to you? If yes is it linked to a janoshik report? I will not trust any peptide without a batch number written and an official janoshik report for that specific batch. Trust is not easy to come by these days…
lol no
 
Guys I wanted to ask: do all these vendors that we currently have include a batch number on the box that they send to you? If yes is it linked to a janoshik report? I will not trust any peptide without a batch number written and an official janoshik report for that specific batch. Trust is not easy to come by these days…

I question your logic on authentication of batch numbers.

It's not difficult to print a label. There are no necks to wring when buying overseas.

That's the beauty of compounding pharmacies. At least there is a neck to wring. Someone to file suit against.

Anyone can print a label with a number on it. Vials can and have been recapped as well. Too many ways to game your authentication methods using a number and a report.

There's just no reliable way to know outside of burning one of your vials on a test. And then testing your own vial for purity doesn't tell you what the other unreported/untested constituents are.
 
I question your logic on authentication of batch numbers.

It's not difficult to print a label. There are no necks to wring when buying overseas.

That's the beauty of compounding pharmacies. At least there is a neck to wring. Someone to file suit against.

Anyone can print a label with a number on it. Vials can and have been recapped as well. Too many ways to game your authentication methods using a number and a report.

There's just no reliable way to know outside of burning one of your vials on a test. And then testing your own vial for purity doesn't tell you what the other unreported/untested constituents are.
So what would you advise a newbie like me to do? I was invited by a group member JohnnyD on discord, is he trustworthy? His reta price was the best I have seen, even better than the Chinese vendors.
 
So what would you advise a newbie like me to do? I was invited by a group member JohnnyD on discord, is he trustworthy? His reta price was the best I have seen, even better than the Chinese vendors.
as many people have advised you on here, you need to do way more research judging by the questions you ask. that's what a newbie like you needs to do - read, read, and read some more.
 
So what would you advise a newbie like me to do? I was invited by a group member JohnnyD on discord, is he trustworthy? His reta price was the best I have seen, even better than the Chinese vendors.

I wouldn't jump into any group buys. You trust "JohnnyD"?

For someone who hasn't bought overseas yet... a group buy is not where you should start.

SRYLAB price: Reta 10mg/vial 400usd=2kit Reta10mg + Free shipping
TUK ANGEL is 270 for 1 kit of 10mg
GYC is 10mg for $260

I hear SRYLAB has been in the news recently due to shipping fentanyl precursor.
Personally, I'd hit up GYC or TUK ANGEL... if you just have to go for the best price... SRYLAB.

Likely won't lose money with those... they've all had their share of issues.

Don't group buy.... go sign up for https://peptide.chat and go talk to these vendors yourself.

Do some legwork.
 
So what would you advise a newbie like me to do? I was invited by a group member JohnnyD on discord, is he trustworthy? His reta price was the best I have seen, even better than the Chinese vendors.

You're going to be injecting this into your body. Go hit the interwebs/here and go read for a night so you're way more comfortable with this process and how everything works. Please don't just trust any one person's thoughts or options, read read read until you're confident in your own decisions and processes.
 
Guys I wanted to ask: do all these vendors that we currently have include a batch number on the box that they send to you? If yes is it linked to a janoshik report? I will not trust any peptide without a batch number written and an official janoshik report for that specific batch. Trust is not easy to come by these days…
You really only see batch numbers, codes to test results, or labels from resellers/vendors (mostly domestic) or some of the OLD companies. Otherwise you're getting a unmarked box with unlabeled vials. The box typically has a product identifier on it.

EDIT - I've never seen unlabeled orders get confiscated at customs which is probably why they do it. Have seen labeled orders held up by customs. Rare. But those companies are usually good at sending another order free of charge.
 
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Guys I wanted to ask: do all these vendors that we currently have include a batch number on the box that they send to you? If yes is it linked to a janoshik report? I will not trust any peptide without a batch number written and an official janoshik report for that specific batch. Trust is not easy to come by these days…
Do all? Of course not.
 
You're going to be injecting this into your body. Go hit the interwebs/here and go read for a night so you're way more comfortable with this process and how everything works. Please don't just trust any one person's thoughts or options, read read read until you're confident in your own decisions and processes.
I'd stick to large vendors that have good reputations.
 
I wouldn't jump into any group buys. You trust "JohnnyD"?

For someone who hasn't bought overseas yet... a group buy is not where you should start.

SRYLAB price: Reta 10mg/vial 400usd=2kit Reta10mg + Free shipping
TUK ANGEL is 270 for 1 kit of 10mg
GYC is 10mg for $260

I hear SRYLAB has been in the news recently due to shipping fentanyl precursor.
Personally, I'd hit up GYC or TUK ANGEL... if you just have to go for the best price... SRYLAB.

Likely won't lose money with those... they've all had their share of issues.

Don't group buy.... go sign up for https://peptide.chat and go talk to these vendors yourself.

Do some legwork.
QSC group buys are great.
 
I wouldn't jump into any group buys. You trust "JohnnyD"?

For someone who hasn't bought overseas yet... a group buy is not where you should start.

SRYLAB price: Reta 10mg/vial 400usd=2kit Reta10mg + Free shipping
TUK ANGEL is 270 for 1 kit of 10mg
GYC is 10mg for $260

I hear SRYLAB has been in the news recently due to shipping fentanyl precursor.
Personally, I'd hit up GYC or TUK ANGEL... if you just have to go for the best price... SRYLAB.

Likely won't lose money with those... they've all had their share of issues.

Don't group buy.... go sign up for https://peptide.chat and go talk to these vendors yourself.

Do some legwork.
Group buys can be beneficial. Most of the valuable COA's and information on vendors from china are from group buys. They almost always chip in to get tests done so at least they know what they are really getting. Plus they are getting bulk prices. I've never done it myself, but from what I've gathered, everyone still pays separately to the vendor but it's grouped together as a bulk order to get bulk prices, then shipped to each individual. No different than ordering yourself. Then they pool money together for someone to get a test done. There many be other methods, but this is how I've seen them work.
 
Group buys can be beneficial. Most of the valuable COA's and information on vendors from china are from group buys. They almost always chip in to get tests done so at least they know what they are really getting. Plus they are getting bulk prices. I've never done it myself, but from what I've gathered, everyone still pays separately to the vendor but it's grouped together as a bulk order to get bulk prices, then shipped to each individual. No different than ordering yourself. Then they pool money together for someone to get a test done. There many be other methods, but this is how I've seen them work.
Or money goes through a gb coordinator who gets a cut.

Why haven't you done it? Why you telling me how you think it works if you haven't done it?
 
I wonder how much it really costs the Chinese vendors per mg of reta?

Im guessing max cost 0.20$

But then you got rent and staff fuel/transportation and bills and equipment so all of that on top maybe total cost to produce a mg of reta $0.50

60%+ profit margin
 
I wonder how much it really costs the Chinese vendors per mg of reta?

Im guessing max cost 0.20$

But then you got rent and staff fuel/transportation and bills and equipment so all of that on top maybe total cost to produce a mg of reta $0.50

60%+ profit margin
You want to know how to build a clock or just know the time?

It's supply and demand. Reta still has a few years of trials. Guess which one is cheapest? Sema. Why. Highest supply and strong demand.

Most people on reta were already on research something else. Wait for approval before you expect prices to drop.
 
Or money goes through a gb coordinator who gets a cut.

Why haven't you done it? Why you telling me how you think it works if you haven't done it?
Group buys are a fairly new concept. I've been in the game long enough to get better deals on a single box than people will get on a bulk 50 box order (Since 2006). I've built relationships with manufacturers beyond pharmaceuticals, know managers instead of commission based sales reps. Never needed to do a group buy when people started doing them in the past year or so. All I know is what people who do them have told me. And the way I stated seems to be the most popular. I've also known many people who've been scammed by the single buyer group buys.
 
Group buys are a fairly new concept. I've been in the game long enough to get better deals on a single box than people will get on a bulk 50 box order (Since 2006). I've built relationships with manufacturers beyond pharmaceuticals, know managers instead of commission based sales reps. Never needed to do a group buy when people started doing them in the past year or so. All I know is what people who do them have told me. And the way I stated seems to be the most popular. I've also known many people who've been scammed by the single buyer group buys.
Serious question, with all that going for you, why bother with any of this? These forums, discord it you’re there? Sounds like you got plugs, what gives?
 
Group buys are a fairly new concept. I've been in the game long enough to get better deals on a single box than people will get on a bulk 50 box order (Since 2006). I've built relationships with manufacturers beyond pharmaceuticals, know managers instead of commission based sales reps. Never needed to do a group buy when people started doing them in the past year or so. All I know is what people who do them have told me. And the way I stated seems to be the most popular. I've also known many people who've been scammed by the single buyer group buys.

beyond pharmaceuticals?

What's beyond that?

The way you describe "group buys" sounds very much like the "Chinese version".

Real group buys have a GB coordinator. S/he collects all the money, makes a single transaction, receives all the product in one shipment and then parcels out the individual buys.

Otherwise, what's the point? What exactly makes it a group buy if you just pay the vendor and they ship it direct to you... that's a "promotion". Not a group buy.

As for the rest of your nonsense. An account newer than mine has all these connections but takes the time out of their day to misexplain group buys to someone who never asked? Seems legit.
 
I wonder how much it really costs the Chinese vendors per mg of reta?

Im guessing max cost 0.20$

But then you got rent and staff fuel/transportation and bills and equipment so all of that on top maybe total cost to produce a mg of reta $0.50

60%+ profit margin
$0.05 per mg on raw materials alone if buying by the kilo 🤣
 
Serious question, with all that going for you, why bother with any of this? These forums, discord it you’re there? Sounds like you got plugs, what gives?
You're right. There really is no reason for me to be here. I came to reddit out of curiosity on what people are doing with reta. I was doing my own research on it at the time and wanted more perspectives on what was working for people, what wasn't, and what were just assumptions. Then I would stumble on posts where people were paying ridiculous amounts for peptides. Like $200+ for a single vial with shotty quality. So I started my own site, selling high quality vials anywhere from $8-$60 depending on the product and mg. I dislike seeing people paying 10+ times more for a crap product. That blew my mind. Then you had people who didn't want to use BTC, other unfamiliar payment methods, buy kits, or wait a week + for an order. My mark up is only 10-15%, rounded to the nearest dollar at or above 10%. Saw a problem, decided to solve it. You'll never see me promote it. Some of these new companies from china popping up, I'll buy a product I don't need out of curiosity. Just for the information. My career consisted of gathering intel and acting upon that intel. It's second nature. I'm still gathering info on reta. Don't care about sema or Tirz, they are the mistakes that created reta imo. I'm here mainly for the vendors. But will provide some information here and there. I want to know who is who, what companies are the same company, who the resellers are, the quality. These companies, the quality of products they have on this site and similar sites aren't from the main players in this industry. Would have never known about them if I didn't google GLP-1 forums. It's been a long time since I've seen this many new vendors. And they aren't popping up on any of the vetted fitness forums. I think kits4less is the only one. They are a good vendor too. This is just what I do. I usually stay in the shadows and observe. But I think seeing people overpay sparked something and now I give my 2 cents. Don't get used to it.
 
You're right. There really is no reason for me to be here. I came to reddit out of curiosity on what people are doing with reta. I was doing my own research on it at the time and wanted more perspectives on what was working for people, what wasn't, and what were just assumptions. Then I would stumble on posts where people were paying ridiculous amounts for peptides. Like $200+ for a single vial with shotty quality. So I started my own site, selling high quality vials anywhere from $8-$60 depending on the product and mg. I dislike seeing people paying 10+ times more for a crap product. That blew my mind. Then you had people who didn't want to use BTC, other unfamiliar payment methods, buy kits, or wait a week + for an order. My mark up is only 10-15%, rounded to the nearest dollar at or above 10%. Saw a problem, decided to solve it. You'll never see me promote it. Some of these new companies from china popping up, I'll buy a product I don't need out of curiosity. Just for the information. My career consisted of gathering intel and acting upon that intel. It's second nature. I'm still gathering info on reta. Don't care about sema or Tirz, they are the mistakes that created reta imo. I'm here mainly for the vendors. But will provide some information here and there. I want to know who is who, what companies are the same company, who the resellers are, the quality. These companies, the quality of products they have on this site and similar sites aren't from the main players in this industry. Would have never known about them if I didn't google GLP-1 forums. It's been a long time since I've seen this many new vendors. And they aren't popping up on any of the vetted fitness forums. I think kits4less is the only one. They are a good vendor too. This is just what I do. I usually stay in the shadows and observe. But I think seeing people overpay sparked something and now I give my 2 cents. Don't get used to it.
I think you're just way too smart and too cool for the rest of us. It would be like Albert Einstein lecturing on his physics theories to second graders. Please go to some other forum and enlighten the folks there. We don't have the capacity to understand your genius.
 
You're right. There really is no reason for me to be here. I came to reddit out of curiosity on what people are doing with reta. I was doing my own research on it at the time and wanted more perspectives on what was working for people, what wasn't, and what were just assumptions. Then I would stumble on posts where people were paying ridiculous amounts for peptides. Like $200+ for a single vial with shotty quality. So I started my own site, selling high quality vials anywhere from $8-$60 depending on the product and mg. I dislike seeing people paying 10+ times more for a crap product. That blew my mind. Then you had people who didn't want to use BTC, other unfamiliar payment methods, buy kits, or wait a week + for an order. My mark up is only 10-15%, rounded to the nearest dollar at or above 10%. Saw a problem, decided to solve it. You'll never see me promote it. Some of these new companies from china popping up, I'll buy a product I don't need out of curiosity. Just for the information. My career consisted of gathering intel and acting upon that intel. It's second nature. I'm still gathering info on reta. Don't care about sema or Tirz, they are the mistakes that created reta imo. I'm here mainly for the vendors. But will provide some information here and there. I want to know who is who, what companies are the same company, who the resellers are, the quality. These companies, the quality of products they have on this site and similar sites aren't from the main players in this industry. Would have never known about them if I didn't google GLP-1 forums. It's been a long time since I've seen this many new vendors. And they aren't popping up on any of the vetted fitness forums. I think kits4less is the only one. They are a good vendor too. This is just what I do. I usually stay in the shadows and observe. But I think seeing people overpay sparked something and now I give my 2 cents. Don't get used to it.
Don’t get used to what, you in non-creep mode? Ok lol. So you’re a vendor that likes to keep an eye on other vendors, the market, and prices. Roger that.
 
Don’t get used to what, you in non-creep mode? Ok lol. So you’re a vendor that likes to keep an eye on other vendors, the market, and prices. Roger that.
I wouldn't really consider myself a vendor as there is little to no profit. Plus I don't promote it. I have a brand, resellers, and just fill orders that come in. For perspective, I have to sell 300-400 items to get a single COA done. Vs maybe 5 sales for another vendor. I don't want to be labeled as a vendor lol. Was never for profit. My main focus is gathering information on GLP-1's in order to help people who need them. When it comes to these new vendors, I just have a knack for obtaining information. Have a dislike for swindlers, poor/overpriced products. A quality 10mg vial for $80 is fine in my opinion. It's the $100+ for a hit or miss product that I have a issue with. The cheap hit or miss kits. The 99% purity one day, 80% the next. The 60mg purchase but received 30mg. A lot of that garbage going on.

I can give a bit more advice on chinese vendors. The price lists aren't set in stone. You can always negotiate prices to a degree. The sales reps work on commission, which is why you can see many different prices from the same company. It's up to the sales rep and partly the managers on how much of a bargain you'll get. There are a couple chinese vendors on this site that will always provide high quality. But everyone already labeled them as scammers with no evidence. Yet it's the only OG company here. Which I found hilarious. I made a order and posted it just to prove a point. But that is what intrigues me about these GLP-1 forums. It's the land of opposite. Bash the biggest players who provide the best quality and service, then praise and recommend all the risky stuff. It takes years of consistency to determine how good a company is in this industry. It's pretty common for "new" companies to pop up for a year or so, start with somewhat quality products, then start ripping people off for as long as they can. Pop back up as a "new" company and do it all over again. Especially when something new or popular comes out. GLP-1s have been on this market for a good 6-8 years. The main hype happened during the past 2 years.

EDIT - Top companies will also provide custom compounds for you as well. If you wanted a custom Sema-10mg/TB-500-10mg blend or whatever mg you want, they'll do it. It's a good sign.
 
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I wouldn't really consider myself a vendor as there is little to no profit. Plus I don't promote it. I have a brand, resellers, and just fill orders that come in. For perspective, I have to sell 300-400 items to get a single COA done. Vs maybe 5 sales for another vendor. I don't want to be labeled as a vendor lol. Was never for profit. My main focus is gathering information on GLP-1's in order to help people who need them. When it comes to these new vendors, I just have a knack for obtaining information. Have a dislike for swindlers, poor/overpriced products. A quality 10mg vial for $80 is fine in my opinion. It's the $100+ for a hit or miss product that I have a issue with. The cheap hit or miss kits. The 99% purity one day, 80% the next. The 60mg purchase but received 30mg. A lot of that garbage going on.

I can give a bit more advice on chinese vendors. The price lists aren't set in stone. You can always negotiate prices to a degree. The sales reps work on commission, which is why you can see many different prices from the same company. It's up to the sales rep and partly the managers on how much of a bargain you'll get. There are a couple chinese vendors on this site that will always provide high quality. But everyone already labeled them as scammers with no evidence. Yet it's the only OG company here. Which I found hilarious. I made an order and posted it just to prove a point. But that is what intrigues me about these GLP-1 forums. It's the land of opposite. Bash the biggest players who provide the best quality and service, then praise and recommend all the risky stuff. It takes years of consistency to determine how good a company is in this industry. It's pretty common for "new" companies to pop up for a year or so, start with somewhat quality products, then start ripping people off for as long as they can. Pop back up as a "new" company and do it all over again. Especially when something new or popular comes out. GLP-1s have been on this market for a good 6-8 years. The main hype happened during the past 2 years.
can you please stop writing paragraphs the length of a book?

It’s a pain to read 🙂

Also, the valid points you make kind of gets lost between all the exaggeration.

Since you spend your time typing already, why not spend another minute or two getting your point through in a way people are more likely to respond positively to?
 
Take a minute to say who these vendors are?
I’d assume he’s talking about kits4less since they are a guaranteed sponsor on professional muscle (that is pretty much a NO bs guarantee).

But I believe they are domestic, as for the Chinese vendors, the only one I recognize from elsewhere is QSC. But I don’t think anyone has labeled them as scammers, beats me 🤷‍♂️ Not sure if they count as old school though.

I don’t pay all that much attention to the probably 100+ vendors I encounter, so who knows 🙃
 

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